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Brat Camp Producers Out of Touch With Reality
Anonymous:
I wouldn't call SageWalk isolation and punishment either. Deborah, take off those filtering glasses through which you view everything and look at the reality.
Deborah:
I'm assuming that you consider your opinions and perception to be 'Reality'. Can't join you there.
The comment was to the need for TBS, which is most definitely isolation and punishment....
24/7.
Wilderness is just a shorter version that carries a whole different level of risks for injury or death.
Anonymous:
Most TBSs are not based on isolation and punishment. You continue to post erroneous information and I continue to correct you.
Deborah:
Uh huh, :lol: and who's out of touch with reality?
Incarceration may actually be more accurate. What do you think? Although, I do think that being held incommunicado with minimal contact with family and the outside world (the real world) is considered isolation. Like inmates in prison....
Punishment.........
suffering, pain, or loss that serves as retribution b: a penalty inflicted on an offender through judicial procedure (kids don't even get the benefit of due process)
FYI, BM is considered punishment. You can pretty it up and blame the kid by calling it 'consequences', but same-same. Limiting calories or contact with parent to gain compliance is punishment. I could go on... and on. Not in the mood.
I'm non-negotiable on Punishment. Totally appropros. We might add- living under a microscope and punished for every perceived minor infraction 24/7. That's an excellent technique for creating paranoia.
You're arguement might be more 'real' and believable if you just copped to TBS being both... but, that you consider isolation and punishment to be 'therapeutic'. Isn't that the truth?
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-11 10:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I wouldn't call SageWalk isolation and punishment either. Deborah, take off those filtering glasses through which you view everything and look at the reality."
--- End quote ---
That's because you're a fucking retard.
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