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SyN:
Instead of these parents dumping into the cash cows wouldnt it be more "Theraputic".  Would it not resonate better with the kids if the parents took a month off of work and had their own brat camp? Did the hikes with them, the talking, the  relateing.  Not only would it show the kids that they are important enough to take the time off, but would also keep them out of strangers hands.
random thought.
Mike

Anonymous:
This really is a great idea.

Nonconformistlaw:
I agree...a huge piece of many "troubled kids" is lack of parental attention so kids feel neglected and unimportant....but since most parents refuse to see themselves as part of the problem...the idea might not fly with most parents...but then again...who knows...sometimes great ideas just take enough people thinking the same thing at the same time, who are all willing to nourish the idea until it becomes reality...

BTW, speaking of people thinking the same thing at the same time... I know of one Delinquency Magistrate in a juvenile court who requires parental involvement by making them parties to a complaint against any child. In other words, this Magistrate understands that parents are part of the problem and have to be part of the solution.

A thought....Maybe add mediation (this is not a therapist!)to it....a neutral person along for the ride, or is close by and accessible, who does and says nothing until inevitibly tensions arise...its a technique used in some Juvenile Courts to help the problem solving along when families cant seem to communicate anymore without being at each other's throats...although mediator's can make suggestions, the idea of it is to encourage parents and children to find their own solutions. This still keeps them out of stranger's hands, which is one of the reason's its being used to keep the JJ system out whenever possible.

Mediation might be impractical, and not what you are thinking...but since it just hit me, I thought I'd throw it out there, because camping trips might not help if all a family's communication ability has completely broken down.

BUT, I do think there's something to your idea.... ::rainbow::  ::rainbow::

Deborah:
I happened to be at the park late last night and observed a dad and son (14-16) on the jogging track. Dad walking, son running. I thought how nice it was for dad and son to be spending time together that way.

Son sits down to take a break.

Dad screams from across the track: 'Get your ass up Brandon. Run.'

Oh, this wasn't 'time together', it was punishment, PT... military style. Dad did look and sound like a drill instructor.

Son: 'I need some water.'
Dad: 'No you don't, get your ass up god damn it and run.'

Son made five or six more trips around the track with dad ocassionally screaming 'Pick it up god damn it. Run.'

Mind you this was loud enough that anyone within a block could hear. Fortunately it was late. I was probably the only person to observe it.

Son: 'I am running.'
Dad: 'I didn't say you weren't running. I said pick it up god damn it.'

The kid apparently finished his mandatory laps and was allowed to stop. He staggered over to the grass and collapsed.

Dad standing 10 feet away, screams: 'Get your ass up, Brandon. I didn't tell you you could sit down. Drop and give me 25. All the way up Brandon. Get on your hands and knees if you have to but, don't stop.'

Son gives him 25, they get in their car and drive away.

Right, wrong, indifferent... a prime example of how parents absolutely could implement their own tough love, military, wilderness, bm program at home; save themselves tons of cash while keeping the family together. We can only hope that the kid gets some positive attention from his dad.

My guess is that the kid will have less resentment toward his dad than if he'd isolated him from the world and hired strangers to do the dirty work.

It's possible that some day they might look back and laugh about this- Damn dad, you were a hard ass. Yeh, I was.

My sons don't laugh with their dad about their respective incarcerations. It's not even a topic of discussion. They know his limitations, in terms of dealing with reality. They just smile and settle for a less-than authentic relationship with him. Something the programs did teach them.

BuzzKill:
I'm thinking you saw a "coach" dad -
High school foot ball coach or something like that - trying to keep Jr at the top of his game.
Have you maybe read Grisham's "The Bleachers"?

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