This is sad. Really. They cant handle any sort of criticism or challenge to their beliefs, yet the whole point of a program and its seminars is to challenge the beliefs of them and their children! The people in the programs have a twisted sense of accountability thats like a pit of fire theyre dangled over by everyone a higher level than them or the staff, yet if you try to hold them accountability its "anonymous posting and parent/ program bashing without accountability" while they themselves are the ones posting anonymously!
Any excuse, any attack on the person or the venue to avoid having the criticism brought upon the actual issue, unless its in agreement with them. What a joke. Hold YOURSELVES accountable. Youre americans, your history is of critical thought and reason, not conformity and bowing to authority. We're supposed to be following the idealizations of the Greco-Roman culture of the mind and freedom that we so desperately try to connect ourselves to with our system of government and the arcitecture of many of our buildings, not acting like we should switch to a fascist state and bend down to authority, be weak, and do as told.
The real problem with these kids is that they arent listening to you, and the parents problem is they've done a shitty job, if any, of convincing them to listen. Why not give them a REASON? Not coersion, not a threat, not suffering, not hired goons to break them down, a REASON. The same thing Id demand, and the same thing you SHOULD demand for the program acting the way it does.
Such weak ways to try to avoid answering any question at all about anything involved except how bad the kid is, how much of a damn martyr the parent is for giving up all that money and having all that grief (and for ignoring their instincts!) and how much of a damned salvation the program or some mormon maniac is... so pathetic.
Why not criticially analyze the program as much as the facilitators of the seminars and the staffers critize you and your children? Afraid? Why not go back to that seminar in your mind and take your balls and your brain back from those assholes. No questioning of the isolation, the secrecy, and the fact that the whole objective is to break the childs defences and mind down into a regressed state to change their thinking and behavior, is there? BTW, as much as you hate to admit it thats brainwashing in a nutshell - by definition. If you dont like it its because in your mind you cant accept it despite the fact that it is what it is, and thats all it is.
But hey, continue your cowardly yellow-bellied bullshit on here, and then call us out as such mean people for using bad words on a damn monitor while much, much worse is bellowed at your children every single day! There must be a very special place in hell for someone like you. You own damn skull for the rest of your life. :wave:
Yanno what else? If you dont "get it" after reading this, its either because youre incapable and dont DESERVE to be a free american (though thats being taken care of by our own government for you!) or because you really buy into it and like being put in a position of utter authority over your child by the program. I hope you dont turn your family hierarchy into one or start being an Ed-Con or start your own program, Id hate to see someone else up against a wall when this all comes to an end in a few years :lol:
Under the benign influence of our republican institutions, and the maintenance of peace with all nations whilst so many of them were engaged in bloody and wasteful wars, the fruits of a just policy were enjoyed in an unrivaled growth of our faculties and resources.
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/foundingdocs/inaugural/madison1stinaug.html' target='_new'>James Madison
