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« on: August 03, 2005, 02:08:00 AM »
Are these places that bad or is it just some pissed off kids who got ofended when confronted with the truth. Just wondering the thoughts about it.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 02:16:00 AM »
Yeah they're that bad, asshole.  They're unregulated.  Why don't morons like you understand what can happen when no one in the entire world is checking up to make sure you're okay?  If you really want to know the "thoughts about it," then read up.  There's plenty to wrap your little mind around on here.  I was sexually molested by a staff member at the place I went to, so me being offended doesn't have fuck to do about being a pissed off kid or being confronted with the truth.

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"Are these places that bad or is it just some pissed off kids who got ofended when confronted with the truth. Just wondering the thoughts about it."
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 07:49:00 AM »
Of course they are all bad.
There are no bad kids, just bad adults

Drugs good
School bad
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 08:21:00 AM »
Generalizations are dangerous....saying that ALL residential facilities are horrible places for every child and all staff members are evil and all should be shut down is as dangerous a generalization as saying all Japanese people had something to do with the bombing of Pearl Harbor and every Muslim  had something to do with 9/11. It is unfair to the good staff and caring counselors to say that all are bad. There are bad facilities and bad employees. Regulations should be in place and inspections should take place on a regular basis. But to say every one in the entire United States is a horrible facility is wrong.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 09:54:00 AM »
Original poster- just spend some time reading through this forum.  You'll find your answer that way.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2005, 10:55:00 AM »
I am not a pissed off kid, I'm a pissed off grandparent. My beautiful, precious granddaughter happens to be in a residential program. For the past year I have extensively researched the "teen help" industry, and can honestly say that I have not found a single program that is not bad. However, in the spirit of trying to be open minded, there may be some helpful programs out there, but they are most certainly not the ones with the glossy brochures and slick marketing techniques. They are not the ones located in states with weak or no child protection laws, no licensing requirements or official oversight. They are not the ones who censor mail and prohibit all forms of communication with the outside world. They are not expensive prisons calling themselves "boarding schools" who hold their young prisoners incommunicado for years on end. If any of you out there know of a good program, I'd love to hear about it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2005, 11:04:00 AM »
Take what you read here with a grain of salt. That is after you weed through the silly games and name calling etc etc etc. Go to http://www.strugglingteens.com and poke around there. And take everything on that site with a grain of salt too. ST is more one-sided and heavily edited but theres no name calling or profanity.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2005, 11:06:00 AM »
Struggling trolls is an EDCON referal agency.

They take MONEY to send kids to private JAIL.

This is their marketing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 11:09:00 AM »
Wandering around there websit doesnt cost anything and if you ask questions about specific programs parents can respond via PM. And everything they have to say about programs is not good.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 11:11:00 AM »
Think of that when you are reading these forums.

Everyone's interests here are not what they seem. People make their living off sending other people's kids to programs. A lot of them hang out at Struggling Trolls. Thousands of dollars per kid usually, this is something they take very seriously.

What are the interests of those who post at fornits? To spread the truth. Nobody is making money here.

HUGE difference.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 11:13:00 AM »
So are there other site besides this one and ST?
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 11:14:00 AM »
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"Nobody is making money here."


Unless they start posting links to struggling teens website, where as soon as you register you will get bombarded with parents trying to suggest programs. AND, get their fee. It's sick and disturbing, but just another day for these programmed parents.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »
Im a parent and I come to this site and also ST. Noone solicits information to me. If I ask a question, I get responses. And I can take them or leave them.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 11:22:00 AM »
When I registered I got half a dozen parents sending me info about programs, guess it depends on the person?

When I asked about a specific program, they deleted the name of the program.

When I mentioned fornits, they deleted that too.


There is no open debate on that site. They simply let people post who help them gain more business.

Good luck finding your right forum.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2005, 10:48:00 PM »
There are wonderful therapeutic programs available. Wilderness and otherwise.  They do not all completely restrict communication, but they do recognize how manipulative these kids have learned to be.  There are reputable educational consultants who can steer you to the proper program.  these programs can save lives and families.
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