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i was in TLC
Anonymous:
I know people will hate me for this but I agree with the Smoke Sessions and with the amount of exercising the cadets have to do.
Is there something particular you have in mind?
Anonymous:
What are smoke sessions?
I'm interested in the entirety of the treatment model. The philosophy of TLC. I'd like to hear from someone who actually worked there what they think it is and their thoughts on it how effective it is.
tlcrescue:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-18 08:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"As I said before we had some Sergeants that weren't the best. There were a few times that I saw a Sergeant step in front of a cadet that was trying to hurry back to his room. I talked to the Sergeant and got on his case for that. He stopped.
I did see some other things go on there but I tried to put a stop to as much as I could. When I say other things I don't mean HUGE things. At least that I saw personally.
Not all of the Sergeants at Thayer were Assholes."
--- End quote ---
you are right. not all of them may have mistreated the students. But the fact that it continues to happen to this day, and it hasn't stopped, tends to lead toward the theory that whoever is ultimately in charge KNOWS that it happens and does nothing to stop it. That in itself is wrong! Plus, if they are having this many problems with instructors, they obviously need to screen a little better before they put someone in charge of students like that. I understand that the whole point is to teach the children a lesson, so to speak, but that doesn't mean you intentionally physically harm them, deny them privileges like the ability to use the restroom, deny them food, force them to sleep in their own urine/escrement, force them to work in the snow without adequate protection, "smoke them" because one person got out of line, take them down because you "feel like it", deny them medical care when it is absolutely necessary. I could go on and on, but I will stop for now. There are proper ways to handle situations. One does not need to abuse someone to get them to reach your main objective. Abusing them only works temporarily as it instills fear in them, but eventually abuse will come back to haunt them and cause damage to them in the long run.
tlcrescue:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-18 09:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What are smoke sessions?
I'm interested in the entirety of the treatment model. The philosophy of TLC. I'd like to hear from someone who actually worked there what they think it is and their thoughts on it how effective it is."
--- End quote ---
smoke sessions are where they basically exercise the child until they literally collapse from exhaustion. For example, one may be forced to do pushups for several hours on end and if you refuse or you stop, they will become even more harsh on you. There are many others ways of "smoking" someone, but this is just one example of many. There are a variety of things that will cause you to get "smoked", some of the least offensive being (and these are examples only, and not limitations):(1) urinating on yourself/your bed (and this occurs because you have been denied bathroom privileges); (2) sharing/stealing food (and of course, this occurs because you have not been adequately fed). Get the gist of it?
Anonymous:
As you know the boot camp is completely different from the Residency section of TLC.
In BootCamp the Cadets are exercised from sun up to sun down. We drill the Cadets on how to properly fold their clothes and put everything in its right place. Cadets are also responsible for cleaning not only their own area where they sleep but also cleaning their surroundings.
When one cadet steps out of line they are exercised as a punishment. If the whole squad/group is acting out or not doing what they are suposed to be doing they get what is refferred to as a Smoke Session. This is when they are drilled with exercises and or marching drills until we feel like they are done.
I know that sounds kind of harsh but the cadets need to learn that they can't get away with these kinds of childish games.
When a child is hurt or sick we do take that into account when it comes time for exercising. Every night it was my responsibility to take sick call and report any findings to their advocates.
We feed them 3 meals a day and they get bathroom breaks before and after they eat. At night they have time for personal hygiene and personal time.
The Bundy's the owners I believe set up the program very well. The problem is not the program but the few Sergeants that don't follow all the rules set by the Bundy's.
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