Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
Typical Day at Sagewalk
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I think you'll find Deborah to be a pretty reasonable lady. Usually the ad-hominem attack is not her style. She is very passionate though and can be pretty biting in her commentary.
I worked at the BM warehouse where her son son was sent, and I can tell you from first-hand experience she has every right to be good and goddamn pissed at those people. Her commentary about that place is dead-on.
I just like messing with the trolls. They're so predictable and hateful. It's funny to get them to spew...especially my favorite two: Karen and Full-of-Shit (Ben's) Dad. Miss you guys!
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--- Quote ---On 2005-08-27 10:47:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-08-27 10:21:00, Shortbus wrote:
"I can understand the annoyance with anons. There are many flavors, yet all have the same aftertaste.
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Oh, shut up already. "
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How funny is that? While I was typing my response about the predictability and hatefulness of the trolls, one posted. That was quick!
Well, at least they consistently prove me right. That's nice. Thanks, Karen!
Anonymous:
Wrong on all fronts- I'm not Karen and I don't hate teenagers and especially not my kids.
I simply agree with the other Anon and ShortBus that it is ridiculous to take the position that all programs are bad. That simply isn't true. It is a shame Deborah's son had a bad experience at Hidden Lake (several years ago, I believe). Hidden Lake has been a good program for many kids- and has not been good for some kids. None of us want ANY teen to be in a bad or abusive program.
You lose all your credibility by condemning all EG programs across the board. You also lose credibility with the insane posters like Nihil and Dysfunctional. It really hurts your cause, if the cause truly is to expose and shut down abusive programs. It seems to me that the cause has become more simply to amuse yourselves all day on the internet.
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Karen said:
"Wrong on all fronts- I'm not Karen and I don't hate teenagers and especially not my kids.
I simply agree with the other Anon and ShortBus that it is ridiculous to take the position that all programs are bad. That simply isn't true. It is a shame Deborah's son had a bad experience at Hidden Lake (several years ago, I believe). Hidden Lake has been a good program for many kids- and has not been good for some kids. None of us want ANY teen to be in a bad or abusive program.
You lose all your credibility by condemning all EG programs across the board. You also lose credibility with the insane posters like Nihil and Dysfunctional. It really hurts your cause, if the cause truly is to expose and shut down abusive programs. It seems to me that the cause has become more simply to amuse yourselves all day on the internet."
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You're all Karen and Full-of-Shit Dad to me!
A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll...
By the way, your remark about Deborah's problem with HLA being a while back is accurate.
However, there's interesting discussion going on on that thread today about a young lady who recently graduated who had a relationship with staff while she was a resident there. She reports that she knows of several other students having relationships with staff members (no pun intended).
She also describes another staff there who is clearly a pedophile and abusing kids by using the power of his position.
There's some sick bastards over there abusing kids for fun and profit on a regular basis, allegedly having inappropriate sexual relations (statutory rape, at BEST, sexual assault or rape at worst) with kids while the kids live in fear of being molested or worse and won't report it for abject fear of what will happen to them if they do.
It's a WONDERFUL place, yes. Please continue to defend it and show what a truly heartless and sick fuck you actually are...
Love ya!
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"Compassion is the basis of morality"
-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-08-27 11:35 ][ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-01-26 15:07 ]
Deborah:
Shortbus,
You don?t think your misrepresenting my situation? And you don?t think it?s necessary to scroll through all my posts before making such assumptions? You?re fairly intelligent, I?m sure you can figure out how to use the Search WWF function and specify your search criteria so you don?t have to read ?all? of them.. If/When you find my story, posted numerous times, you can practice what you preach to your captives- take responsibility and apologize. You are way out of line.
I did read your response to Notafriendofredcliff, so I know you are aware that programs can and do take children without both parents consent and deny parents rights who aren?t footing the bill or going along with the program. Also, that it?s not a matter of ?letting? the other parent place a child. In all the cases I?m aware of the child was placed without the other parents knowledge or consent. Yeh, three times in my situation. Once there, the other parent is faced with taking legal action to have their child removed and/or defend their rights. You might have asked before you assumed. Very program of you. Until you read my story, you?d be wise to stick to what you KNOW, lest you further damage your already questionable reputation here.
And just as you?ve erroneously assumed about that situation, you have taken a trip down the only neural pathway you possess to assume why my mother didn?t tell her story before my son was incarcerated. Your last comment, ?Thats like standing by and watching someone get the shit kicked out of them and you not saying anything because you dont want anyone to know the same thing happened to you???? indicates to me that you didn?t comprehend my response. Neither of us knew before. When I described what was happening (after the third placement- which wasn?t ?military?), then and only then, did she feel like I would understand what had happen to her. It's not something you discuss with your kids over breakfast. Oh by the way honey, let me tell you about the time your grandfather sent me away to religious holy-rollers to have the shit beat out of me... for no 'good' reason. My kids paid no price for my ?mother?s silence? you ignorant, presumptuous bitch. And ?meek? doesn?t describe either of us.
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