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Typical Day at Sagewalk
Deborah:
FYI, I have heard the good, what little there was, and none was associated with the day-to-day life at the 'program'. One staff in particular treated him with genuine respect, acknowledged his skills, values, maturity, and leadership qualities- thought he was two years older than he actually was. This person also had the integrity and decency to compliment me on my parenting and to futher state that he shouldn't be there- something the egomaniacs he dealt with on a daily basis loved to take credit for. Unfortunately, he only spent 28 days of his 20 month sentence with this person.
We don't discuss it unless he brings it up. He chooses, at this point in time, not to think about it because he'd rather not feel the rage. That will mellow and there will be a time for revisiting the experience. For now, he's enjoying life and making up for the two years that were taken from him by sadistic, money grubbing 'helpers'.
How bout you knock off the shade tree analysis and cop to why I'm a burr in your butt?
What about my story infuriates you?
Come on, it's your chance to have a much needed breakthrough.
And, I'm just dying to know why you are so invested in me, what I have to say, and my son's well being.
Shortbus:
I know what gets to me when I read your posts... your undying belief that all programs are bad. Not just the program you dealth with but all the other ones too. Thats up there with having a bad meal in a restaurant therefore all meals in all restaurants will be bad. But youre quick to get all over someone elses shit if they say they had a good experience with a program. These arent the people that are preaching that all programs are good, just the one they used.
Deborah:
Gee Shortbus, thanks for sharing what really 'gets to you'.
Now, whose shit exactly did I get all over?
It certainly wasn't yours.
I forget... which program are you here to defend?
I know you haven't been around long, but let me give you a glimmer of what has contributed to my 'attitude'.
My older son was heinously abused for six months in a military boarding school which resulted in severely dibilitating 'PTSD' and a successful lawsuit.
Four years later my younger son was boarded in a different military BS. A week after he arrived his dorm officer was arrested for molesting his charges. My son reported him. There's been another incident recently, so they changed their name. That should help, huh? :lol:
Then he was off to a TBS for two years. While he had no run-ins with pedophiles, he did have to endure some lovely, sincere but misguided, 'helpers', probably not too much unlike yourself.
My neighbor's son was killed at Skyline Journey. Perhaps you read about that?
A colleague's grandson was sexually abused at a RTC in Waco, Tx which resulted in a lawsuit.
My best friend was incarcerated in a program in the 70s. Ran, was raped, and said it was less traumatic than the program.
My mother was sent along with her 'acting out' twin to a reform school back in the late 40s to have the devil beat out them. Guess mom was guilty by genetic association. :lol: A story I never heard until the unpleasant reality of programs crashed into my/our lives.
Let's see, am I forgetting anyone?
Pardon my skepticism, which I won't apologize for. I don't have any lovely stories to share. I think parents are rolling the dice when they abdicate responsibility for thier children.
Do you have children Shorbus?
We could also discuss the 100+ children that were 'helped' to a premature death. Or shall we continue to pretend that wilderness in particular has no inherent risks? Know any other forms of adolescent therapy that includes the risk of serious injury or death?
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-08-27 00:52 ]
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-26 10:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-08-26 09:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yeah, the smart kids are onto something, Ginger. That's why they were stealing cars, doing drugs, blowing off their educations. Can't understand why we would want to redirect their efforts. "
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The simple fact you generalize tens of thousands of teens shows your idiocy. You are gravely uninformed, and obvious unexperienced. Your hate for yourself shows quite clear, however."
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Karen, I thought I told you to get back under the bridge...
BACK! Back under the bridge, troll!
Anonymous:
Oh, good. Dysfunctional is back. How did we manage without his insightful comments. I think we should all go by the name Karen, since you idiots think only one person (the alleged Karen) opposes your one-trick show here.
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