Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
Typical Day at Sagewalk
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-26 10:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Many of these kids came from excellent private schools where the faculty was strong and the educational opportunities were top-notch. The kids, by their own admission (later) were throwing away promising futures. They were stealing cars- maybe the family's car-but taking cars without permission and without licenses in some cases. They were using and/or selling alcohol and drugs. They were violent towards family members. Gee-why would we lose faith in our kids?
Fast forward to post-program. Kid is back in a top high school and will head to a top college. Kid has matured. Kid treats family members with the expected amount of respect an 18 or 19 year old would show a parent (not a whole lot, but some). Kid is responsible about cars and activities. Kid has learned how to have healthier relationshps with friends and members of the opposite sex. Kid has better things to do than hang around on a website like this complaining about the program that kid knows saved his life.
Ginger- quit with the personal attacks. It gets old."
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Who are you talking about? Your own kid? You?
Sounds like your spewing BULLSHIT.
'Kid'?
What program do you work for?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---But that does not give you the right to put everyone else in the same boat.
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Talk about calling the kettle black!
What an idiot!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-08-26 11:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
However,there are some that need more therapeutic help and a safer, more controlled environment than can be provided at home.
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Rarely. More often, it's the parent (aka sucker) who needs the program. How in the world do you expect anyone to develop maturity w/o taking on more responsibility than they once did? Can you sit there, straight faced, and try to tell me that you never in your life bit off more than you could chew? What you've done here is 1) stolen the kid's thunder while eliminating valuable learning experiences and 2) put yourself between a bullet and a target. And it won't be long till you're pulling yourself away.
A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
-- William James
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Nonconformistlaw:
Anon said--------"Fast forward to post-program. Kid is back in a top high school and will head to a top college. Kid has matured. Kid treats family members with the expected amount of respect an 18 or 19 year old would show a parent (not a whole lot, but some). Kid is responsible about cars and activities. Kid has learned how to have healthier relationshps with friends and members of the opposite sex. Kid has better things to do than hang around on a website like this complaining about the program that kid knows saved his life."---------------
Yes, lets fast forward to the post progam experience :roll: ---excellent idea...kid has no ability to socialize in the real world, outside of the structured program...kid back in high school, now far behind academically because program interferes with education, kid has become more immature as a result of losing so much of his "normal" childhood formative years, kid has nothing to do with family for years....
.....kid now knows better than to respect adults who think they know more than children. Contrary to popular belief, adults are NOT automatically entitled to respect, respect must be earned in ALL cases. So, knowing this, kid has now learned to respect only those adults that are humble, can admit to making mistakes, can admit that they dont know it all, and know how to give kids a little credit when deserved, etc.
Kid goes completely crazy after so much time incarcerated in a program, becomes highly irresponsible, parties all the time, etc...all in an effort to regain their stolen childhood and to rebel against their unjust incarceration.
Kid's ability to interract normally within all relationships is drastically impaired as a result of program damage, including but not limited to, inability to trust others, and due to program induced PSSD/mental heath issues.
Kid now recognizes the importance of hanging around these boards to help stop program madness, and to help enlighten others as to the true horrors that await children subjected to progam dogma....
Kid justifiably vents anger and resentment over his/her unjust program incarceration....for kid knows he/she has ever right to vent....
Kid knows that program nearly destroyed his/her life, kid knows he/she will have to live with program damage for the rest of his/her life...kid knows that the only thing in the world that can "save" kid's lives, is to keep them as far away from these programs as possible....
Anonymous:
Actually, the program was quite strong academically and there was no set-backs in that area. Never was a social problem and there certainly is not post-program. There was plenty of interaction with peers at the program- most from similar backgrounds.
Kid was in program for 1 year- long enough to mature and learn to make better choices.
Do you really think that while kids are in these programs that the parents just enjoy a long vacation? A lot of therapeutic work is going on in the family- both in connection with the program and at home.
I can not emphasize enough to innocent parents who might stumble onto this thread while searching for help with their teens that these anti-program people who post here do not have even the slightest grasp of reality.
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