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Typical Day at Sagewalk
Nihilanthic:
What you need to start doing is spelling out whats so bad about "giving back the child they once knew" and that their child is entrapped in a program.
I might not carry that much weight being 20, single, and not having ever been in a program proper, but I at least have a perspective as a young person whose not too far removed from the sort of coersion and issues that children and teenagers have to deal with growing up running a gauntlet of authoritarian assholes, and I have compassion and intellect.
Besides, why not try to promote freedom and justice? Hell, I coulda been one of those program victims! :scared:
Our country has deliberately undertaken a great social and economic experimanet, noble in motive and far-reaching in purpose. [The Eighteenth Amendment, enacting Prohibition.]
Letter to Senator W.H. Borah
--Herbert Hoover (Feb 28, 1928)
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Anonymous:
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On 2005-08-08 15:05:00, Nihilanthic wrote:
"What you need to start doing is spelling out whats so bad about "giving back the child they once knew" and that their child is entrapped in a program.
I might not carry that much weight being 20, single, and not having ever been in a program proper, but I at least have a perspective as a young person whose not too far removed from the sort of coersion and issues that children and teenagers have to deal with growing up running a gauntlet of authoritarian assholes, and I have compassion and intellect.
Besides, why not try to promote freedom and justice? Hell, I coulda been one of those program victims! :smokin:
And yeah,
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Anonymous:
What's bad about "getting back the child they once knew" is that by putting their kid in a behavior controlling/changing program, they are altering the very identity of their own kid.
They are "engineering" a parentally correct kid.
Anonymous:
but it's a double-edged sword, because they are also teaching the kids how to appease. If the child is smart enough, he will learn what words to say, what faces to make, and basically how to emulate the high-status kids in the program, whether he buys into it or not.
Now, when he gets to go home, he goes back to his parents who he's known longer than the program, and he knows their personalities and expectations a lot better than he did the program's, and let me tell you, it'll be a breeze for him to appease his parents and make them think everything's fine and dandy. He'll be that much better at sneaking out and =not= getting caught, doing drugs and hiding the tract marks, breaking the law and keeping his hands clean.
Programs are probably some of the best criminal training schools out there because not only do the kids gets to meet a whole bunch of other delinquent kids with stories to share (how to make meth, crack, absinthe, thermite, soda bottle bombs, you name it, the best ways to cut on yourself, the best way to shoot up, how to cotton ball, best ways to fuck, how to kill a guy with whatever fill-in-the-blank everyday object) they also learn how to walk the walk and talk the talk so that no one will ever suspect them of anything criminal. Send a kid to wilderness program, and you also teach them how to live off the lam while they evade the law. Do parents ever stop to think about this?
Deborah:
***Again I ask you what has worked for your child ?
I've answered that question many times here. Do a search if you're genuinely interested. But, in a word.... Respect.
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