Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Straight, Inc. and Derivatives
IT is choice
Carmel:
Just to interject.....
What about those of us that never had a drug or alcohol problem to begin wih? What about those of us who were forced to admit things that were untrue, if for nothing else than to preserve our sanity?
If AARC, AA, NA etc. are so hard up for followers, that they have to "create" them just to keep there numbers up....then maybe they are in the wrong business.
As far as I can tell about 50-60% of the kids in treatment were not in need of "sobriety". They were in need of stability, understanding, parents that did not physically, sexually, and mentally abuse them. "Drug addiction" was nothing more than the armored truck driving Straight, Inc. 's loot all the way to the bank.
If destroying someones self-esteem and sense of worth is necessary to "save" them from something they may or may not ever even experience (drugs) then I will be the first to light the match that burns the whole organization to the ground.
Some people in this world need a doctrine to follow in order to feel as if they belong, or maybe even that they are guaranteed a reward in the "afterlife"......life is a gift, and I would think that God is insulted by the way we use it against each other.
velvet2000:
Carmel, probably less than %50-%60
"Over the past ten years over one million adolescents have been removed [from school] for drug policy violations.' Joel Brown of The Center for Educational Research. 'An estimated %10 of them have drug problems."
Boulder Weekly, March 2000 by Jake Ginsky.
Carmel:
That may be so....if you are one who puts stock in such statistics. I personally am one who questions them.
Just because an adolescent is at fault for violation of drug policy, does not make him/her a confirmed drug addict in need of intense mind breaking treatment.
I do not deny that there are many many teens and young adults in need of help, in need of a solution to their addictions....its a very real problem in the world. But I think the demonizing of "illegal" drugs provides us with a skewed perception of what is really dangerous. A person can get ripped out of their mind on alcohol in public OR at home, often times to a degree much more than the next guy sitting at home smoking a bowl with his buddies....but we all tend to shudder at the latter because marijuana is "illegal". What truly is the worse situation once we look beyond the written law?
A parent expects the inevitable transgression of experimentation by their children. But what I am getting at here all in all is, when does the transgression become habit? And is a zero tolerance attitude really not just a very dangerous stance to take?
Antigen:
There's a class action suite in Europe which has been joined by 1500 Americans 7. GlaxoSmithKline faces lawsuit "as big as tobacco litigation"
As I understand the chemistry of it, Paxil (like Prozac) is basically a synthetic immitation of heroin. And yet, just as with opium eaters before the Harrison Narcotics Act, Prozac habitues generally either lead normal, productive lives as addicts or they seek to end the addiction without any coercion whatsoever.
No doubt, declaring certain (unpatentable) drugs illegal is the cause of most of the problems that we tend to associate with drug use. I've often heard that marijuana is this nation's #1 cash crop. It's hard to track any comodity that's illegal, but I think it's plausible that this is a true statement. It costs practically nothing to grow the stuff. But a successful grower can get at least $100/ounce retail or $1000/lb wholesale. That's a LOT of cash for very little effort.
If the stuff were legal under the alcohol model, the price would drop down to practically nothing. Anyone who wanted to could grow enough for personal use--I think w/ beer and wine, the limit is something around 20 or 40 gallons per year per adult in residence. So even though more people would probably smoke and some people would probably smoke more often, the amount of money invested in the industry would be reduced down to mere chump change--no better than any other legal product.
Same with all other currently illegal drugs. None of them were causing anywhere near the trouble when they were legal that they do now.
ladyjerrico:
O.k. I don't want to start a political discussion here, but I just want to put my 2 cents in.
I take Paxil on a daily basis and I found it to be a wonder drug for depression.. I have been on nearly 15 different kinds, including Prozac .. Prozac worked for about a month and then caused me to have suicidal tendencies and I could no longer use it.
Paxil may or may not be addicting, I don't know for sure, but I do take 20 mgs. every other day.. and if need be I can ween myself off of it which I have done in the past.
I don't see how it's possible to be in the same catagory as herion. I think maybe Vicadin could be considered like heroin because that stuff, to me, is addicting as all hell..
just thought I would give my two cents.
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