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Anonymous:
On 2002-12-07 23:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I was abused, I was mistreated....fuck! YOU WERE FORCED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!, and your dumb asses are bitter. "

What about the people that were held accountable for their "suspected" actions, or the thinks they coped to during coerced confessions, you dumb ass. What in the hell is your problem. If you don't like it here leave, but I doubt you will because you just can't seem to tear you eyes away from the screen because, you sadistic fuck, it makes you happy to hear about the way people have been tortured.


On 2002-12-07 23:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
I read about how someone, after attending Elan, took drugs and jumped out a window cripling themselves. I actullay found the story kinda funny, with respect to ELan being at all responsible for the decision to jump out a fucking window! Paleeze.


What???? you dont think that though reform does anything to peoples psyche? What are you a 2nd grader? Boy you Elan supporters are a bunch of dumbass, brainwashed morons, that will never be anything other then mindless followers and an abusers.

Anonymous:
`Course, I'm just guessing. But I thought the point was to annoy Ken. Is that so wrong???

I'm sure Ken is losing infinite amounts of sleep. But if it keeps the kids occupied for any amount of time...more power to them!

Hmm, good question. You aparently give something, if not a fuck, because you keep reading and posting. As for whether or not you're in your right mind, well who can say? I suppose it's right for you, and that's all that matters, isn't it? Have a pleasant day

Pleasant days come and go, and so do pied pipers such as yourself. Do you have a place among the former Elan residents (aside from your need to lead those who might follow?) And what is your ultra conservative point of view on the pointless spew and more than obvious psychological imballance of those who visit, and "relieve" themselves in your site of pied-pipe-dreams? I suppose its healthy to "vent"
What would the world be if it had no Ginger Warbitch to catch all those crocodile tears on her electronic shoulder?


What about the people that were held accountable for their "suspected" actions, or the thinks they coped to during coerced confessions, you dumb ass. What in the hell is your problem. If you don't like it here leave, but I doubt you will because you just can't seem to tear you eyes away from the screen because, you sadistic fuck, it makes you happy to hear about the way people have been tortured.

"you dumb ass" was hilariously refreshing (I was emotionally jolted!)

"coped to during coerced confessions"? uhh, did you have something that was hidden in the deeper realms of your guilt chamber which Elan found while you slept in your state of "hypnotism" and managed to present to you with a beating? gawd your pathetic.

Yeah, Im a webcrawler seeking out stories of "torture" to laugh and point at the "freaks" who were so unjustly abused..
did it cross your mind that I was IN Elan? dumbass? Is the only thing wrong with me the fact that there isnt anything wrong with me?
27 months of Elan and I have nothing to bitch about (especially Claire getting laid in the DOD trailer :roll: wheres the therapuetic value there?)is annoying to you isnt it...it bugs the hell out of you that I would go through everything you did, and have nothing to say now 20 years later.

Uhh, I have a question, what do you expect to resolve here, what do you gain by posting the garbage you post? is there a means to an end of your continued misery caused by Elan?

Who do you think would lead you to a bit of resolve? the idiots here , prancing behind the pied piper herself, all having the same pathetic desease...or someone who has defeated the demons, and lives a happy, humble, unhostile life?

I know the answer... y'al would rather come in here, where you have no accountability for your actions thoughts and words, and write the most profound thing your tiny little minds can conjur up at the time.

Ginger...piss off, you werent in Elan, you dont know ELan, and with your biased motivation to involve yourself, your arguement will never be heard by anyone other than those you string along by thier emotions.


I am no more an Elan supporter than anyone here, funny, but if someone comes in with a different point of view, they are categorized, "supporter" "appologist" or ...when wit is stretched to its outter limits..."dumbass"!  I'm so intimidated!

Anonymous:
On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
And what is your ultra conservative point of view on the pointless spew and more than obvious psychological imballance of those who visit, and "relieve" themselves in your site of pied-pipe-dreams? I suppose its healthy to "vent"
What would the world be if it had no Ginger Warbitch to catch all those crocodile tears on her electronic shoulder?

I guess that We would see more ASS Holes like you! Hostile and venting towards anyone who does not share the same thoughts or feelings as them selves. It is funny but from your posts you seem to think that you are better then anyone else here. Definitely don't have the guts to let us know who you are by posting all anon like. I guess if it was up to you the would would still be flat, and you would rificule all who opose that 'fact' and attack anyone who provided a venue to host such opinions.

On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
"you dumb ass" was hilariously refreshing (I was emotionally jolted!)
"coped to during coerced confessions"? uhh, did you have something that was hidden in the deeper realms of your guilt chamber which Elan found while you slept in your state of "hypnotism" and managed to present to you with a beating? gawd your pathetic.

And I suppose you hole the corner on the Elan experience. I guess that if it didn't happen to you it didn't happen? Ooooohhhh boy you must be God, should we all bow down and worship you now? Man what a self involved pathetic excuse for a piece of shit.

IF you have read all the signs of drug abuse ,and I am sure you have, most of them can be attributed to puberty, and/or the stress of a broken home. And yet the scared parents, who in fear of their child's life, stick them in one program or another for drug abuse. Will the program let them get away with denying the use of drugs, or does it simply say they are in denial, and focus harder and harder to get that "Confession of guilt"?

How about the parents that just don't seem to have the time for their children, who as normal teenagers, act out against them or the world in rebellious fashion? Is if fair that these people send their kids to "drug rehab" or "though reform" institutions? Shouldn't they take the time to deal with the children that the so obviously took the time to produce?

I guess it is your mind set that if they are in the program they deserve to be there, Just like the innocent murders and rapest that are set free 20 years later with nary an apology, when the DNA evidence finely proves their innocence (all the while the prosecuting attorney, is on the TV still saying that he/she still believes the person is guilty, DNA be damned).

On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, Im a webcrawler seeking out stories of "torture" to laugh and point at the "freaks" who were so unjustly abused..
did it cross your mind that I was IN Elan? dumbass?

Well, you ignorant dumbass moron, I never said that you weren't in Elan, and again by your own words and action you seem to take enjoyment out of reading the posts of others, then enjoy even more calling them loosers, whiners, babies, dumbasses, etc...


On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
Is the only thing wrong with me the fact that there isnt anything wrong with me?

That remains to be seen. The first person I would suspect with a mental problem is one that thinks that he is ok, like you ( ::ftard:: ), Those are usually the psychopaths that one has to worry about.

On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:
27 months of Elan and I have nothing to bitch about (especially Claire getting laid in the DOD trailer :roll: wheres the therapuetic value there?)is annoying to you isnt it...it bugs the hell out of you that I would go through everything you did, and have nothing to say now 20 years later.

Only the fact that you come on here like a pompous ass thinking that you (as the piece of shit you so obliviously are, for attacking people with an opinion other then your own, which sounds program like to me...) are better then anyone else here, which you are not!

On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

I know the answer... y'al would rather come in here, where you have no accountability for your actions thoughts and words, and write the most profound thing your tiny little minds can conjur up at the time.

Ginger...piss off, you werent in Elan, you dont know ELan, and with your biased motivation to involve yourself, your arguement will never be heard by anyone other than those you string along by thier emotions.

Well if you don't like it here, why are you reading and posting? Dont you have a life of your own? Is the only think you can do is go around and attack Ginger or others for their though opinions or experiences.


On 2002-12-09 21:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

I am no more an Elan supporter than anyone here, funny, but if someone comes in with a different point of view, they are categorized, "supporter" "appologist" or ...when wit is stretched to its outter limits..."dumbass"!  I'm so intimidated!

Denial is the first sign.  You are going to write all this shit in support of a program you do not support? Who is it that has mental problems??? Didn't you therapist tell you that denial will keep the healing process from beginning?

You are so hostile toward any viewpoint against Elan, and yet you are not a supporter??? Do you have a problem with free speech when the opinion is not yours???

Antigen:
Someone, who wishes to remain nameless, faceless, etc., said:Ginger...piss off, you werent in Elan, you dont know ELan, and with your biased motivation to involve yourself, your arguement will never be heard by anyone other than those you string along by thier emotions.

No, my family was in another Daytop spin off called The Seed and then I spent a couple of years in a Seed spin off called Straight. When the Elan variety split from the Seed structure of programs (or was it the other way around) some minor changes occured. But the base brainwashing methods remain intact in both branches of the 'family' to this day.

That's why Elan is so damned interesting to me. The differences clearly illustrate that it's not the Bible thumping or the host-homes model or political affiliation or emphasis on drugs or the ring or or the corner or the motivating or any specific little quirk that make these programs abusive. It's the brainwashing. It's those elements of the Program that Sam Ervin spoted like a hawk on a field mouse all the way back in 1974 and documented in a Senate report entitled Individual Rights and the Federal Role in Behavior Modification Here's the relavent page from that report.
http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed ... inwash.gif

I suppose I should be flattered that you think I have some sort of mystical power over all these people to make them believe some false history from their own lives. Fact is, though, most of the people reading and posting to this forum probably don't even know who I am.

 :wave: To those folks who don't know who I am, let me first tell you who I am not. I am not Sysadmin, Web God. I'm not a former Elan inmate. I'm just a simple, hard working website hosting provider who offers free forum and/or website hosting to certain select individuals and organizations who I think are doing something worthwhile. If you find yourself in need of hosting services, I hope you'll think of me.

I am not a vegetarian because I love animals;  I am a vegetarian because I hate plants.  
-- A. Whitney Brown

--- End quote ---

Anonymous:
sysadmin: Your an idiot, plain and simple.

Ginger: Brainwashing? Tell me, how is that 2500+/- people can go through the program at Elan, and only a handfull end up sniveling and bitching about it years later?

So your free "webhosting provider" (isnt using both words redundant?) would be doing something "good" if it defamed and allowed HATE to be circulated? I suppose your idealistic point of view would be: anabling a poor crowd to ventilate the atrocities of a school they got sent to for being out of control in one way or another.

I guess after reading the posts of Marty raping them, they in fact are ventilating, but if you were as concerned as you claim to be, why wouldnt you recommend these people seek psychiatric help? Maybe a pennyroyal bath and a Joan Biaz tune, combined with an occasional outburst hosted by yourself is all they really need to heal eh?

Your goal is clear, your bitter about your mommy sending you to straight (your family went to SEED etc?..hmm maybe at least part of the clan NEEDED a "spin-off" of Daytop village?) You seek the support of ANYONE, and exploit thier bullshit stories for what cause? TO VALIDATE YOUR OWN!

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