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What exactly do people mean when they say "Get over it'?
Anonymous:
For those who offer that as the solution to reconciling oneself past involvement in The Seed, can you please explain to me how exactly you all have gotten over it? What did you do? Are the coping techniqes you employ yours or are they something learned from some other program, religion or philosophy? Is it like the death greiving process?
I am just really curious as to what people mean when they write that. I'd really like to know if there is actually any substance to that statement or if it's just another way to NOT examine the total experiece.
Being in there killed a part of me and I have lived with a big hole and missing time for good deal of my life. "Get over it" seems such a trite response to a very personal loss.
GregFL:
I think "get over it" in general means "I don't want to talk about it" or "your feelings about this subject aren't valid".
I am not saying just this forum, but in general terms. My ex wife was fond of that saying and it almost always pissed me off.
80's Guy:
I can tell you how I was able to begin "getting over it" (for lack of a better term). First, my education saved my ass. I am so grateful to my sister who literally almost forced me to take a college class, in about 1985, when I decided to move away from the seed for the first time and only time (only for 6 months). During the time that I decided to move away and go to school, I was treated as a suspect character. Anytime I visited the group while I lived away from them, staff certainly helped me feel like I was screwed up for deciding to do my own thing. I visited the beach outings on the weekends or simply tried to come into the group, and it never failed that they would make me feel as if I was doing somthing terribly wrong, when in fact, I was waking up to the world in one of the most powerful ways, which was for the first time starting to realize that I was an intelligent, creative nad passionate human being that loved learning, despite staff's attempts to keep me from not wanting to go to school. As we all know knowledge is power, and they were sure scared of anyone getting even a bit of that power. It was only when I decided to come back 6 months later, that I was treated better, but staff and art were not thrilled (and they showed it to me in their cold looks and shoulders) with the idea that I had decided to continue in school and was actually doing well in college. I returned to the seed because I was afraid to make it out there on my own. Also, I could not get rid of the pit in my stomach that constantly haunted me as if I had been a traitor to staff and art. At the time I did not associate the stomach cramps with cult withdrawl syndrome, but after reading Combatting Mind Control by Hassan http://www.freedomofmind.com, years later, I realized it was the psychlogical effects of group withdrawl that I was suffering. I thought my body was telling me that I had done the wrong thing by moving away from the seed. Although I re-committed myself for the long haul, I never stopped going to school since I knew that it was the only thing they could not touch and at least I was gaining freedom in the pricay of my own mind. I later went through graduate school, and they gve up on trying to onvince me that an education was a waste of time. So my sister opened the doors for something I was really unprepared to understand when I was younger since I believed the line in the group that school was not important and only a few "select seed kids" who just "knew" what they were meant to be, ususally a doctor, lawyer, or President of the U.S. should go to school since a liberal education was a worth nothing and it usually was a way of becoming "an intelelctual idiot like so many assholes out there." Although I was trapped in their ignorant ways for many years, I must admit that when everything crumbled I knew who I was because I realized that for a long time I had been able to see through them , not them through me, I was justa always scared to take a real close look at how much help they needed to improve who they were as human beings. I guess there is soemthing to say for learning to think critically as a result of reading and writing. There are more ways that I began to "get over it," but I would say that my education has been one of the most important tools for overcoming the drama of "uneducated" people.
Anonymous:
Thanks for the thoughful replies to my question. I'll tell you what, I always get real offended when I hear that phrase. As words go, these operate as a very quick way to cut off all communication. And it's so condescending. I guess it does usually have the intended effect.
I'll check out that link, too.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-22 13:16:00, 80's Guy wrote:
I was an intelligent, creative nad passionate human being
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Hey, I never knew that! I'm passionate about nads too! Small world! :rofl:
[sorry, couldn't resist.....]
I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
--Robert Frost, American poet
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