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Redcliffer
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-28 11:29:00, Notafriendofredcliff wrote:
"We know the damage that has been done to him, but we also have praised him on the courage and strength it took for him to finish the Redcliff program. We try to stress that to him, even though we privately believe the program is simply bogus."
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None of my business but I am not sure it is wise to conceal your opinion of RedCliff. Your silence may be taken as tacit approval. This might lead him to the conclusion that you are "the enemy" too.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---We feel it's important for him to NOT to believe it was a total waste of his time, and trust me, that's not easy considering how we truly feel.
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Why not just be honest? It sounds to me like you are trying to cover your own ass.
Notafriendofredcliff:
Why would you say that? I don't understand why you think I'm covering my ass. I just don't want him to feel more angry that 80 days of his life was totally wasted.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-11-28 08:32:00, Notafriendofredcliff wrote:
"Thanks, Atomic Ant! What thoughtful and intelligent advice!
It sounds like your father is an amazing and insightful man, and his guidance was immeasurable. I'd love to know his methods.
"
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My Dad taught high school kids for forty years. He had lots of experience with teens. I never had a chance. :grin:
Anonymous:
Hi,
I have to say that I have had a totally different experience with Redcliff. Yes the parent seminar was a little rough (exactly like you said) but if you hung with Doc Dan until the end he had a great message that actually addressed what you wanted to know -- what to expect -- and for me why this happened in the first place.
Your aftercare should have been addressed long before that seminar -- but then it sounds like you have sooo many more complex relationship issues then our family.
We are intact and very involved -- we were willing to go to counseling while he was gone and work on our issues and what we did to contribute to his problem.
I think your case was so much different because of all of the Drama -- Like you said your Son didn't need to be there and I can see that for a kid who does not need to be there this would be a very rough experience -- considering what your son has been through I can't imagine how tough this was for him.
My son thanked us for sending him and he was really proud that he could take care of himself no matter what. He didn't need to depend on anyone or anything to make him OK -- he truely was a different kid.
He said that he feels happy inside for the first time in a long time.He is looking forward to returning as a leader in a few years.
OK so you can now all post things like I am a program parent and my son is brainwashed etc....but Redcliff saved my Son's life.
He is at a non-profit boarding school right now and loves it -- we were very careful about where to send him. Maybe we got lucky -- maybe wilderness was the right choice for our son since the next step for him was jail or death. Rehab didn't work. Parenting classes didn't work, all the love in the world didn't work... he needed something extreme.
I sent a foul mouthed, expelled for hitting a teacher, drug addict and what I got back in 100+ days was a confident young man who knows who he is and what he wants out of life.
Was it tough -- actually I can't really even begin to imagine how tough -- some of the stories he tells -- If I had known how tough it was I would have chickened out and not sent him.
The difference is that he wears this experience like a badge of honor. He did something well that most people could not do -- yes in many ways it was like going to war -- but then that is what I was in -- a war to save this childs life. He won - he did it on his own without me.
I know you think I am wacked but this is our reality --
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