Guantanamo Bay vs Tranquility Bay

[Anonymous]

Could it be that all of you are talking about Sen John McCain???

[thepatriot]

On 2005-06-20 17:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Could it be that all of you are talking about Sen John McCain???"

I don't know if thats who they are referiing to or not I believe he was a POW for roughly 71/2 years at the Hanoi Hilton. But it certainly was not Mr. Durbin

[Anonymous]

If transporters use cuffs to get the kid to the facility, the that is the only time that happens. Once there they do not use cuffs or shackels. So you eat your nice try on twisting the fact that wwasp does not shackel. The transporters are all independent. And have the right to use cuffs to take the kid by law. The parents are also told that the transporters might have to use cuffs. :wave:

[OverLordd]

If transporters use cuffs to get the kid to the facility, the that is the only time that happens. Once there they do not use cuffs or shackels. So you eat your nice try on twisting the fact that wwasp does not shackel. The transporters are all independent. And have the right to use cuffs to take the kid by law. The parents are also told that the transporters might have to use cuffs.  

Ok listen to me you Anon bastard, and you listen good, because your about to get a lession in the law you say you know. A child may not be restrained at any time, unless it can be proved in a court of law they are a danger to them selfs or people around them. Parents may not give permission to have their children cuffed because that is still considered abuse, these escort services work outside the law, and many are run by people that used to be law officers, so they know they can get away with it. Also Transporters commit the crime of kidnapping every time they take a child, and do you know why? Kiddnapping is considered the use of fource or coersion to hold or transport a person against his or her will. Guess what that means? If you said that they are breaking the law, your right and you get a cokkie. And who the hell at one of these camps needs cuffs or shackles any way when all you need a some rope and some knowledge and the person is going no where.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
-- Aristotle

[Anonymous]

I pesonally do not use cuffs unless the kid makes me. %98 of the time the kid knows they need help and goes, or just makes the right choice. If i do have to use cuffs, they are on for only the time the kid is out of control.
If it is against the law, then why have I had situations where the cops got involved and in every circumstance and every state that it has happened I have been avle to continue the journey with the kid cuffed or not. So you can call me bastard or any thing else. But I work within the law and have made a positive impact in many kids lives. I and my company as I have stated in the past are youth counslers with at least one person on every job having a degree.
I know that these programs are tough, but I have personally never seen anything abusive when I am there. By the way I can walk the halls at these schools without an escort, so nothing is hidden.
If I saw anything I would Report it.
The one who cares

[BuzzKill]

I see no difference between cuff/shackels and the use of duct tape to hog tie a kid. The effect is the same.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-21 05:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If transporters use cuffs to get the kid to the facility, the that is the only time that happens. Once there they do not use cuffs or shackels. So you eat your nice try on twisting the fact that wwasp does not shackel. The transporters are all independent. And have the right to use cuffs to take the kid by law. The parents are also told that the transporters might have to use cuffs. :wave: "

WWASP suggests using those transports, and helps parents get in contact with them. You wish to argue semantics, because that is the only argument you can make. You are an apologist for an abusive, unnecessary and uneffective program. Are you a parent who had child kidnappers come and abduct their child? Sure sounds like it.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-21 07:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I pesonally do not use cuffs unless the kid makes me. %98 of the time the kid knows they need help and goes, or just makes the right choice. If i do have to use cuffs, they are on for only the time the kid is out of control.

If it is against the law, then why have I had situations where the cops got involved and in every circumstance and every state that it has happened I have been avle to continue the journey with the kid cuffed or not. So you can call me bastard or any thing else. But I work within the law and have made a positive impact in many kids lives. I and my company as I have stated in the past are youth counslers with at least one person on every job having a degree.

I know that these programs are tough, but I have personally never seen anything abusive when I am there. By the way I can walk the halls at these schools without an escort, so nothing is hidden.

If I saw anything I would Report it.

The one who cares"

 ::puke:: 'The one who cares'?!! Are you fucking kidding me? You are responsible for stealing kids from their homes and putting them into prison camps, and you think what you do is good? You sicken me, and I sincerely hope a crazed student gets the upperhand on you one day, if you know what I mean.  :skull:

[OverLordd]

I pesonally do not use cuffs unless the kid makes me. %98 of the time the kid knows they need help and goes, or just makes the right choice. If i do have to use cuffs, they are on for only the time the kid is out of control.
If it is against the law,then why have I had situations where the cops got involved and in every circumstance and every state that it has happened I have been avle to continue the journey with the kid cuffed or not.  So you can call me bastard or any thing else. But I work within the law and have made a positive impact in many kids lives. I and my company as I have stated in the past are youth counslers with at least one person on every job having a degree.
I know that these programs are tough, but I have personally never seen anything abusive when I am there. By the way I can walk the halls at these schools without an escort, so nothing is hidden.
If I saw anything I would Report it.
The one who cares

Ok punk, time to rip you a new one, I hope you can sit down once I am done with you.

Let us begin with the calling of the names, first off, I want it noted that I am calling you these things not because I dont have anything else to say, but because you are these things and they need to be said, because apprently, you do not realise what your doing is wrong. You my friend are human scum, you step in and help apprent send children to these schools, you, in my view, are the worst part of the system, you are a kiddnapper, who takes children out of their homes, out of their bed, and toss them into hell, I compare you to the barge man on the river Styx. You have no legal athority to do this, you have no power, you simply physically take them. I hope that a kid snaps and kills you when you try and take him, I hope a kid defends him self and you get sent to the hospital.

Now, let us continue with rebuting what you have to say

then why have I had situations where the cops got involved and in every circumstance and every state that it has happened I have been avle to continue the journey with the kid cuffed or not.

Because the cops dont give a rats ass, they dont care about this kids that they have most likely had run ins with, and neither does the state, because the state has its own kids to worry about. If the kid had a lawyer then you would be in jail or out on the street in seconds, if the kids had some one to stand up for them, besides their other friends.

I know that these programs are tough, but I have personally never seen anything abusive when I am there.

Thats because you drop the kid off toss him where they tell you to be tossed then leave, are you telling me that you say at these places 24/7 to watch what goes on?

The one who cares

If you sign your posts like that one more time I will take it up with the admin, do you know why? Because you dont care! your a beast, a animal that preys off of poor familes with issues, you help split them up, and give a child more issues that he has to deal with, you are a modern monster, good at pr and self deciving.

With soap, baptism is a good thing.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer

[OverLordd]

Good, its done, you may now get out of that pool of blood on the floor, sorry its so messy, but your going to be walking funny for a few days, you know you diserve it, hope that new hole I riped you fits well.

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
--Annie Dillard, "Pilgrim at Tinker Creek"

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-21 07:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I pesonally do not use cuffs unless the kid makes me. %98 of the time the kid knows they need help and goes, or just makes the right choice. If i do have to use cuffs, they are on for only the time the kid is out of control.

If it is against the law, then why have I had situations where the cops got involved and in every circumstance and every state that it has happened I have been avle to continue the journey with the kid cuffed or not. So you can call me bastard or any thing else. But I work within the law and have made a positive impact in many kids lives. I and my company as I have stated in the past are youth counslers with at least one person on every job having a degree.

I know that these programs are tough, but I have personally never seen anything abusive when I am there. By the way I can walk the halls at these schools without an escort, so nothing is hidden.

If I saw anything I would Report it.

The one who cares"

I hope you realize how stupid you sound. Trying to justify your evil deeds to people who have first-hand experience of what you do have NO sympathy or understanding for people like you.

[OverLordd]

Oh somthing I forgot to add to the annon poster who is apprently a kiddnapper.

Does your family know what you do? If they do I bet their ashamed of you, if they do, I bet your kids dont trust you, if they do, I bet your not invited to the family gatherings.

The weavers of linen and hempen cloth, ... may exercise their trades without paying any fine.
-- Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations (chapter X, part II) notes:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-21 08:50:00, OverLordd wrote:

"Oh somthing I forgot to add to the annon poster who is apprently a kiddnapper.



Does your family know what you do? If they do I bet their ashamed of you, if they do, I bet your kids dont trust you, if they do, I bet your not invited to the family gatherings.

The weavers of linen and hempen cloth, ... may exercise their trades without paying any fine.
-- Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations (chapter X, part II) notes:

"

I am sure this stupid fuck lies to his family, and says he 'helps' teens. Just another syncophant on the bustling behavior mod industry.

By the way, what type of qualifications are necessary to become a child-kidnapper? Did you have previous experience?   :rofl:

[OverLordd]

By the way, what type of qualifications are necessary to become a child-kidnapper? Did you have previous experience?

Getting away from the debate, because I dont think the guy is going to respond, I will give the qualifcations.

1. It helps if you were a corupt police officer.
2. Must not have kids, because once they find out what you do, their liable to kill/disown/harrass you for the rest of your life.
3. Must enjoy breaking up families
4. Must beable to to control a kid half your size and smack him around till he stops cring because he/she is so scared
5. Optional - Likes to rape/molest little girls in their care
6. Be a good lier.
7. Can shoot a man in the back with a taser from 30 feet to keep him from running.
8. Have a set of hand cuffs (where they have been does not matter)
9. Must be able to buy off cops.
10. Must be a good lier.

Bonus pay if you can break the kids before they get there.

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[Anonymous]

You know.. on second thought, I seriously doubt this guy even has a family.