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Offline OverLordd

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« on: June 09, 2005, 09:34:00 AM »
Ok, I have been trying to wrap my head around this forum and everything in it, well exept the topic on how to mainline smack and free base blow, but I have become increasingly frustrated, because there is so much data to understand and learn about, considering all I know is how much I hate CSA. Continuing on, I have come up with a list of names, places, things, and other stuff I need definitions on if I am to work well within this forum.So please, give any information you can on this list so I can understand and move with you guys. We begin with.

1.Straight, Inc. -
2.Who am I discovery/Whitmore -
3.Thayer Learning Center -
4.Seed program -
5.CEDU -
6.LightHouse of northwest flordia -
7.SAFE, Inc. -
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9.AARC -

Ok this is what I need to know, the things I dont understand. I think my mind is getting around it. There are diffrent programs like Seed, Straight, SAFE and what not what have you, and each has diffrent schools that proscribe to one program or another CSA, Whitmore, CEDU, things such as this, I think CEDU is a school anyway. And all these schools are a part of WWASP. In WWASP is wide spread, if not not instituionalized abuse and neglect. Am I right along those lines? Well please, any info some one could give would be great, because I want to learn about this, then I want to do somthing about it. My friend was hurt, and I will see no one else hurt on my watch.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2005, 09:48:00 AM »
Naw man it evolved like this:
 Synanon..Seed...Straight..SAFE...LIFE..Kids helping (hurting) Kids
  WWASP ..is a seperate thing with their own bullshit. Although the wwasp camps are abusive as well.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 09:49:00 AM »
Keep digging ...it'll make your head spin.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 09:59:00 AM »
i would like to refer you to the website of the International Survivors Action Committee: http://http://isaccorp.org/

you can find more information here:
http://http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm#flor9

there is a whole lot of information out there. as for how to stop them? who knows. Straight started up in 1976, was investigated, had ugly court cases, was supposedly shut down in the early 90s, but several institutions are Straight copy-cat programs -- Kids Helping Kids in Ohio is in the very same building where Straight was -- and they keep doing the very same thing to teenagers that fucked the lot of us in the head a long time ago.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 10:18:00 AM »
Ok, I did just dig, I found out somthing off of Google, God bless google, haha, I need names, thats what I need, I just found out Robert Lichfield on another site, and I want him sued till he cant stand up, then leave him in a room with all his kids and see how they feel. Now, how old is this movment? The one to hurt children so bad? Now just as a seperate thing, who want to see physical harm done to those adults that did this to youth?

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 10:30:00 AM »
:wink: ... well I think thats your name anyway, I went there and I emailed them, thank you so much for the link. Has any one tired a massive class action law suit? to take them out? and me being curious, have they ever been protested against? I mean like sit ins picket lines, things like that, or even more extream things, like what PETA or ALF or ELF do, property distrution and alike.

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 10:37:00 AM »
I am sure someone is going to fuss about this, but if you are interested in a blow by blow of the Seed/Straight legacy....go to Wes Fager's site http://www.thestraights.com and do some skimming of his online book A Clockwork Straight.  he has many useful timelines and articles as well.  I actually found his site before this forum, long long ago.

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 01:37:00 PM »
Almost, OverLordd.

In the beginning, Synanon begat The Seed (though we don't know exactly what the connection is, just circumstantial evidence) and CEDU. The Seed begat Straight, Straight begat LIFE, SAFE, KHK (Ohio and New Jersey/Texas branches) CEDU begat the WWASP program, some of which have since bred into other programs.

The above language is a clue as to my temper toward the whole thing and how long it's been going on. Long before Synanon, there were the Roloff schools, which persist to this day in various manifestations (Rebekah, VCA and some others). It's a long and murky story and it goes way back.

The fucked up thing about it, in my view, is that this particularly sadistic brand of torture for fun and profit seems to have gained a shameful degree of acceptance and approval in power circles in this country.

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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 02:35:00 PM »
It seems you are most interested in WWASP.  I would suggest the ISAC WWASP Alleged Crimes Report (link below) is a good place to start.

The WWASP facilities are:
  • Paradise Cove - Western Samoa (shut down by the authorities)

  • Tranquility Bay - Jamaica (the harshest of their facilities)

  • Brightway Adolescent Hospital - USA (shut during an investigation by the authorities)

  • Sunrise Beach - Mexico (shut down by the authorities)

  • High Impact - Mexico (shut down by the authorities)

  • Casa by the Sea - Mexico (shut down by the authorities)

  • Morava Academy - Czech Republic (shut down by the authorities)

  • Cross Creek Center - USA

  • Cross Creek Manor - USA

  • Spring Creek Lodge - USA (employee convicted of criminal endangerment - recent suicide)

  • Carolina Springs Academy - USA (owner banned from the premises)

  • Majestic Ranch - USA  (director charged with sex abuse)

  • Academy at Ivy Ridge - USA (under investigation by FBI and 6 state agencies)

  • Academy at Dundee Ranch - Costa Rica (closed after a raid and a riot)

  • Bell Academy - USA (raided by authorities and closed within a year of opening)

  • Midwest Academy - USA (a new facility)

  • Eagle Point Christian Academy (formerly Bethel Boys Academy) - USA (a newly acquired facility)

  • Bethel Girls Academy - USA (shut during an investigation by the authorities)

  • Darrington Academy - USA (a new facility)

  • Pillars of Hope - Costa Rica (just opened)
The recent trend is for the new facilities to deny any link with WWASP but they are WWASP facilities in all but name: same people, same program.
Here are a few WWASP-related links:

WWASP
Children Were Isolated And Hogtied, They Report
'Behavior Modification': Salvation For Problem Teens Or Brainwashing?
Teen Boot Camps Visitor Comments
I Am A Typical Teenager - Life In My Eye's
UNICEF Voices of Youth
Teen Torture Schools
US Federal Probe of WWASP Requested
ISAC WWASP Alleged Crimes Report
MOM DEFEATS CORPORATE GIANT
Investigation shows troubled school may be buying interest with lawmakers
Truth about WWASP
Utah-based group under fire
Exposing WWASPS camp abuse


Desperate Measures
Day 1
Day 3
Megan And The "Starving Girl"
Lay Down The Rules For Tranquility Bay
Tranquillity Bay's American student died from head injuries
See 'Troubled Teens' Website
Disturbing Testimony About Tranquility Bay (edited but quick download)
Family Wins Fight To Remove Teen From Tranquility Bay
Jamaica No Problem, Says Tranquility Bay
The Last Resort
Petition to Close Tranquility Bay
Locked in Paradise
Former student alleges months of abuse


Casa by the Sea
Is It Discipline - Or Abuse?
Living in a lock down facility
James
Baha Raids Shut Boarding Schools for Teens
Reports Of Abuse Shut Down Boarding Schools
Children arrive from Mexican boarding schools
Mexican official: lack of doctors, reports of abuse prompted closure of Baja California youth centers
Mexican Authorities 'Violated Every Tenet of the Rule of Law' in Closing School for Troubled American Teens
U.S. to protest handling of schools' closure in Mexico
Americans 'Tortured Children' In Czech Home For Teenagers
Morava Academy Security Director Steven Roach "Missing" In Czech Republic
My Personal Experience At Cross Creek Manor


Carolina Springs Academy
Utah-based school owner banned


Spring Creek Lodge
Youth Program Under Fire
More Questions About 'Tough-Love' Program
Owner Of Private Discipline Academy In Costa Rica Is Arrested
Tough Love School Sent To Timeout
US Youths Rebel At Harsh School In Costa Rica
Teens' 'Prison' Closed (PDF)
Dundee Mother Claims Robbery, Death Threats Being Probed
Months at ranch leave son bruised, parents in turmoil
Youth Ranch Director Charged With Child Sex Abuse
Boarding School Faces Allegations of Abuse
State's oversight of school lambasted
Group Seeks Probe Into Boading School
Mother Files Lawsuit, Claims Boarding School Abused Son


Academy at Ivy Ridge
Credentials suspended for Ivy Ridge Academy
Students recaptured after escape
Troubled youth riot at upstate school
Parent Of Ivy Ridge Student Denied Access To Records
Melee Keeps Spotlight on Hard Life at Academy


Bethel Boys Academy / Eagle Point Christian Academy
State probing 2 church youth homes
State probing Bethel Boys Academy
School tactics draw ire, praise
Consent decree sets guidelines for Bethel
Bethel Baptist: FINALLY!
Abuse alleged at Lucedale boys home
Reforms don't stem allegations
6 in custody after academy riot
Troubled Lucedale academy reopens
Security to tighten at private boys' school
Sealed orders offer safety plan for Eagle Point
Mom pulls twins from Eagle Point after riot
Sheriff says girls moved from Bethel Home in Petal
DHS releases information involving claims of abuse at girls home
Owner of Bethel Academy, state in talks to settle dispute
New Abuse Claim Against Bethel
Bethel students flee school; allege abuse
Bethel Shuts Down After Girls Flee
Controversial Girls Home For Sale
South Mississippi Home For Girls Is Closed


Kemper Military Academy
Skeptical crowd hears plan for school
Former student alleges months of abuse
Kemper proposal rejected
Boonville City Council rejects offer for school
Teen Escort Service Members Charged With Assault
Bethel Review
The Better Fight
WWASP Info


The WWASP 'seminars' are based on the Large Group Awareness Trainings (LGATs) developed by the cult, LifeSpring.  Here's a bit about LifeSpring and LGATs:
Can I Trust Them?
Pathology As "Personal Growth"
Life Spring
Thought Reform Programs And The Production Of Psychiatric Casualties
Report Of The APA Task Force On Deceptive And Indirect Techniques Of Persuasion And Control
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 03:33:00 PM »
Oh thank you so so much, this is a welth of information, Its what I need to learn and eventurally start my fight against these bastards, I will see them fry for this, I swear to God I will.

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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2005, 11:04:00 AM »
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It's what I need to learn and eventually start my fight against these bastards,

Good luck. :rofl:

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