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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2005, 03:46:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-09 15:40:00, Reagan Youth wrote:


"Do you actually think I'm gonna read all that  ::bwahaha::   :skull:
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 04:05:00 PM »
Then I'll stab you in the neck with a screwdriver.
 ::bigsmilebounce::  ::bwahaha2::  ::nod::  :evil:
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2005, 04:51:00 PM »
And todays lesson kiddies: Never fuck with a tweaker
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2005, 11:22:00 PM »
1. Not About Pot

Washington Post editorial
Wednesday, June 8, 2005

The Supreme Court's decision Monday in the case of Gonzales v. Raich is a defeat for advocates of the medical use of marijuana, because the court ruled that federal drug laws can be enforced against patients even in states that would permit them to light up. But the true importance of Raich has nothing to do with drugs; it relates rather to the balance of power between the federal government and the states. The government's crusade against medical marijuana is a misguided use of anti-drug resources; that doesn't mean it's unconstitutional. A Supreme Court decision disallowing federal authority in this area would have been a disaster in areas ranging from civil rights enforcement to environmental protection.

The Constitution's commerce clause, which provided the foundation for the court's ruling in this case, is the foundation of the modern regulatory state, underpinning since the New Deal huge swaths of federal law: worker protections, just about all federal environmental law, laws prohibiting racial discrimination in private-sector employment. Over the past decade, however, the court has tacked away from its most expansive vision of national power, emphasizing that the commerce power is not unlimited. The court said, for example, that Congress can't use the clause to legislate against sexual assaults or to regulate gun possession near schools. That made sense; without some outer bound of the commerce power, Congress would have authority over anything. But the court's recent reconsideration of the commerce clause carried dangers, too. Limit the legislature too much and Congress lacks the power to run a modern country whose national policy is necessarily more ambitious than it was in the 18th century.

The plaintiffs in Raich , patients who regard pot as essential medication for their conditions, contended that because their use of the drug is noncommercial and within a single state that tolerates medical marijuana, the federal government lacked the power to stop them. This may seem like an attractive principle, but consider its implications. Can Congress protect an endangered species that exists only in a single state and may be wiped out by some noncommercial activity? Can it force an employer who operates only locally to accommodate the disabled?

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the court, emphasized the critical principle that if Congress enacts a regulation aimed at "the interstate market in a fungible commodity" -- in this case drugs -- "[t]hat the regulation ensnares some purely intrastate activity is of no moment." Justice Antonin Scalia reached the same conclusion for slightly different reasons. The result is a six-justice majority that stands strongly against a revolutionary approach to commerce clause jurisprudence. While questions remain, the importance of this cross-ideological statement is enormous -- even if it means the Justice Department can continue harassing sick people.

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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2005, 12:27:00 AM »
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Justices Rule U.S. Can Ban Medical Pot


1. Not About Pot

Washington Post editorial
Wednesday, June 8, 2005

The Supreme Court's decision Monday in the case of Gonzales v. Raich is a defeat for advocates of the medical use of marijuana, because the court ruled that federal drug laws can be enforced against patients even in states that would permit them to light up. But the true importance of Raich has nothing to do with drugs; it relates rather to the balance of power between the federal government and the states. The government's crusade against medical marijuana is a misguided use of anti-drug resources; that doesn't mean it's unconstitutional. A Supreme Court decision disallowing federal authority in this area would have been a disaster in areas ranging from civil rights enforcement to environmental protection.

The Constitution's commerce clause, which provided the foundation for the court's ruling in this case, is the foundation of the modern regulatory state, underpinning since the New Deal huge swaths of federal law: worker protections, just about all federal environmental law, laws prohibiting racial discrimination in private-sector employment. Over the past decade, however, the court has tacked away from its most expansive vision of national power, emphasizing that the commerce power is not unlimited. The court said, for example, that Congress can't use the clause to legislate against sexual assaults or to regulate gun possession near schools. That made sense; without some outer bound of the commerce power, Congress would have authority over anything. But the court's recent reconsideration of the commerce clause carried dangers, too. Limit the legislature too much and Congress lacks the power to run a modern country whose national policy is necessarily more ambitious than it was in the 18th century.

The plaintiffs in Raich , patients who regard pot as essential medication for their conditions, contended that because their use of the drug is noncommercial and within a single state that tolerates medical marijuana, the federal government lacked the power to stop them. This may seem like an attractive principle, but consider its implications. Can Congress protect an endangered species that exists only in a single state and may be wiped out by some noncommercial activity? Can it force an employer who operates only locally to accommodate the disabled?

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the court, emphasized the critical principle that if Congress enacts a regulation aimed at "the interstate market in a fungible commodity" -- in this case drugs -- "[t]hat the regulation ensnares some purely intrastate activity is of no moment." Justice Antonin Scalia reached the same conclusion for slightly different reasons. The result is a six-justice majority that stands strongly against a revolutionary approach to commerce clause jurisprudence. While questions remain, the importance of this cross-ideological statement is enormous -- even if it means the Justice Department can continue harassing sick people.

Click here to view story.
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No! Justices rule that DEA can go on prosecuting 5 or 6 cases per year! The other 500 or 600 (and growing) can go on living the dream of those long haired, hippy freak founders; freedom!

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2005, 12:29:00 AM »
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Fuck Legalization. How do you guys expect drug dealers to make a living??


In a word, we don't! We expect far better!

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2005, 12:35:00 AM »
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"Do you actually think I'm gonna read all that  ::bwahaha::   :lol:
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Actually, no. I expect the illiterate to get ground up in the gears of progress, as always. Too bad, so sad.

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2005, 12:55:00 AM »
He can read...he just doesnt give a fuck..
 Thats my take on it anyway..
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2005, 04:23:00 PM »
What's the diff?

I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.  I'm certainly not!  But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!  
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2005, 10:45:00 PM »
Righteous Monty Python quote!!!!!  :nworthy:

damn i need a Monty Python fix!

ALBATROSS!

Remember the one with the athlete they're following like those Olympic vignettes?  "And for lunch, he stops, and rubs gravel in 'is hair."  :rofl:


or eltz;

"No, no, it's the Judean People's Rebublic!"

damn those brits! they're fuckin' 'ilarious even when they're tryin' to sound serious!
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
Ok, I'm cribbing from Richard Lake's homework. Sparing you the editorializing, guilt tripping and sanctimony, I'll just give you the juicey bits. These are the editorials on the recent sp decision cropping up like fairey rings in the nation's newspapers. Every one has a contact email or url. Respond if you're so inclined.

US MI: Editorial: No Compassion For People In Pain?
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a04.html

US MI: Editorial: Medical Pot Ruling Tramples States' Rights
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a06.html

US HI: Editorial: Federal Law Needed For Medical Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a01.html

US TX: Editorial: Marijuana Ruling Was About Federal Law, Not Medicine
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a02.html

US OR: Editorial: Reclassify Marijuana As a Schedule II Drug
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a07.html

US MA: Editorial: Marijuana And Congress
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a03.html

US OH: Editorial: Where Is the Compassion
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a04.html

US CO: Editorial: High Court Twists Pot Ruling
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a06.html

US FL: Editorial: Opening A New Front
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n934/a03.html

US WI: Editorial: High Court Muffs Ruling On Medical Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n934/a01.html

US WI: Editorial: Let States, Doctors OK Marijuana Use
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n934/a02.html

US FL: Editorial: Marijuana Ruling Burns States
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a01.html

US: Editorial: High On The Commerce Clause
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a02.html

US GA: Editorial: Court Goes To Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a05.html

US NY: Editorial: Let The Sick Use Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a07.html

US TX: Editorial: Congress Should Make Exception To Drug Laws
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a08.html

US OR: Editorial: Oregon's Medical-Marijuana Law Just Got Hazier
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a09.html

US CA: Editorial: Court Ruling Allows Persecution By Feds
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a10.html

US NC: Editorial: State Law Allowing Medical Use of Pot Is Not Invalid
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a01.html

US CT: Editorial: A Medical Setback
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a04.html

US MA: Editorial: The Case For Medical Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a06.html

US OH: Editorial: The Court On Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n931/a07.html

US TX: Editorial: States' Rights Go Up in Smoke, Thanks to U.S. Supreme Court
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n931/a09.html

US MO: Editorial: A Stretch Of Court's Reach
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n930/a03.html

US: Editorial: The High Court Errs
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n928/a08.html

US NC: Editorial The One Drug You Can't Have
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n928/a01.html

US IL: Editorial: Marijuana As Medicine
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n927/a14.html

US NC: Editorial: Court Ruling Ensures Enforcement
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n926/a05.html

US MT: Editorial: Idea of Limited Government Goes to Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n926/a07.html

US FL: Editorial: Suffering and States' Rights
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n926/a01.html

US AL: Editorial: Myths Up In Smoke In Medi-Marijuana Case
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n923/a05.html

US CA: Editorial: Just Where Is The Humanity?
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n923/a06.html

US KY: Editorial: Expanding Federal Power
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n923/a02.html

US TN: Editorial: Open Up Marijuana Debate
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n922/a07.html

US GA: Editorial: Congress Needs To Decide
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n921/a03.html

US AZ: Editorial: Medical Marijuana Up In Smoke
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n919/a05.html

US NY: Editorial: High Court Flops On Medicinal Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n919/a09.html

US RI: Editorial: The Marijuana Ruling
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n919/a10.html

US TN: Editorial: States Should Decide Legality Of Medical Marijuana Use
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n919/a02.html

US DC: Editorial: Not About Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n918/a01.html

US AL: Editorial: Just Say No
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n918/a03.html

US NJ: Editorial: Still a Wisp Of Hope
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n918/a07.html

US VT: Editorial: A Criminal Prescription
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a05.html

US TX: Editorial: U.S. Must Turn to Congress After Ruling
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n916/a04.html

US IL: Editorial: Pot and the Constitution
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n915/a03.html

US MA: Editorial: Marijuana Not Yet Ready For Medicine Box
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n914/a04.html

US CA: Editorial: State Should Push Federal Medical Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n913/a06.html

US ME: Editorial: Medical Marijuana Debate Headed Where It Belongs
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n912/a06.html

US WI: Editorial: Court Ruling Was Dopey
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n911/a05.html

US NY: Editorial: The Court and Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n909/a01.html

US TX: Editorial: Let States Decide
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n909/a02.html

US MA: Editorial: Some Justices Need To Take A Pill
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n908/a07.html

US SC: Editorial: Supreme Court Limits the Right of States to Make Their
Own Decisions and Laws
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n903/a03.html

US OR: Editorial: High Court Points the Way on Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n901/a05.html

US OR: Editorial: Supreme Court Clouds Medical Marijuana Laws
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n901/a07.html

US MA: Editorial: Medical Marijuana Not Reefer Madness
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n897/a06.html

US MA: Editorial: A Win For U.S. Drug Laws
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n896/a08.html

US MO: Editorial: U.S. Supreme Court - Pot and Power
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n896/a10.html

US: Editorial: Court's Ruling on Marijuana Reeks of 'Reefer Madness'
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n896/a03.html

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US IN: Column: You Make The Judicial Call
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a05.html

US MI: Column: Getting Tough on the Terminally Ill
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n936/a03.html

US MA: Column: Align Drug Laws With Common Sense
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a08.html

US UT: Column: States' Rights Get Burned By Medical Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a09.html

US FL: Column: Hard To Tell Who's An Activist
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a10.html

US FL: Column: How Congress Can Quickly Strike a Blow for Common Sense
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a01.html

US GA: Column: Why Put Pot To The Test?
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a03.html

US IL: Column: Dazed and Confused About Federal Power
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n933/a10.html

US FL: Column: High Court Burned Medical Pot
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a08.html

US OK: Column: Ruling Clouds Assumptions
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n925/a01.html

US AL: Column: Justices Keep Defying Simple Political Categorization
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n925/a03.html

US MA: Column: Justices Aren't Always Predictable
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n924/a03.html

US MA: Column: Justices Aren't Always Predictable
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n924/a06.html

US FL: Column: In The Grip Of Reefer Madness
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n919/a03.html

US DC: Column: Judging This Court
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a04.html

US NH: Column: Lifting A Glass, Or A Joint, To States' Rights
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a06.html

US MT: Column: Ridiculous Court Ruling
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a07.html

US CA: Column: Getting Tough With The Terminally Ill
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a08.html

US MS: Column: Just How 'Conservative' Was It to Ban Home-Grown Cannabis
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n916/a03.html

US MN: Column: Legal Medical Pot Now Up To Congress
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n915/a01.html

US CA: Column: How to Treat Terminally Ill? Let 'em Suffer
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n914/a06.html

US IL: Column: Will Congress Have the Guts to Tackle Medical Marijuana
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n913/a04.html

US OK: Column: Setback For Terminally Ill
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n912/a10.html

US MS: Column: Let Those Poor Sick Folks Inhale
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n911/a06.html

US FL: Column: Getting Tough With The Terminally Ill
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n909/a06.html

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US WI: OPED: High Court Must Be On Something
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n935/a02.html

US CO: OPED: High Court Has Gone Potty
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n932/a02.html

US TX: OPED: Reading The Smoke Signals
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n931/a01.html

US DC: OPED: 'Medical' Pot Up In Smoke
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n917/a03.html

US CA: OPED: Medical Marijuana Needs Remedy
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n916/a01.html

US NY: OPED: Smoke Must Have Blinded The Court
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n915/a07.html

US NY: OPED: Good To Grow
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n914/a02.html

US CA: OPED: Pot Fight Far From Over
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n913/a02.html

US WI: OPED: Medical Marijuana: Should It Be Legal?
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n901/a01.html

US WI: OPED: Medical Marijuana: Should It Be Legal?
URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n900/a10.html

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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2005, 11:47:00 AM »
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And todays lesson kiddies: Never fuck with a tweaker

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2005, 04:28:00 PM »
Oh shit, smoking weed is like a $10.00 ticket nowadays. ::soapbox::
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 05:00:00 PM »
Now here's a guy you just want to see walk out in front of a truck!

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Marijuana use an un-Christian act

Jun. 13, 2005 12:00 AM  

Marijuana is an un-Christian pleasure, therefore illegal. No matter how it helps a medical condition, the illicit pleasure it gives is not permitted. God is in control.

If you are sick and there is treatment that is not illicit and you can afford it, use it; that is what God intended.

However, no one is permitted to do anything illegal just because it makes them feel better or live longer.

Stealing food when you're starving to death is illegal.

So if you're dying and marijuana would help, go to church instead. Find your Mother Teresa for comfort and die.

Or do drugs, go to jail without comfort or marijuana, and die. This is a Christian nation. It's God's rules. Quit complaining.

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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2005, 06:39:00 PM »
That letter makes more sense if you replace every instance of "God" with "The Government".
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