Sucess stories from Struggling Teens.com

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-05 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"She is the first to admit that she would be dead, pregnant, homeless or severely drug addicted had we not removed her from her drugging self abusive lifestyle."

Do you think it's coincidence that all graduates say this? Why do you think this mantra is ingrained into each child so thoroughly? To reassure retarded parents such as yourself.  :tup:

[Anonymous]

When I was in the program, I was the only kid there who even had been doing hard drugs. (I had been off for several months before entering though) Shoot, most of them, I'd say the majority hadn't even smoked pot. Maybe they took a drink from pappa's liquor cabinet, but that's it. Look at what the graduates are saying, they have everyday teenage problems. They have the notion these are extreme problems, as if every family out there is supposed to be perfect, like they see on TV. Reality check, teenagers are learning how to be adults, THE HARD WAY. It's how life works.

If you are willing to imprison your kid in an isolated setting, where they will be beraded with psuedo-psychological BULLSHIT that will never help them in real life? Admit it parents, all you really want is a break for your teen and yourself, right? WHy send them to an abusive setting. Send them to a relatives house. There is no therapy in these programs, nothing. Sorry to dissapoint.

By the way, the 98% percent of the kids who were there for small things like trying weed, drinking alcohol, smoking cigs, talking back, cutting class- will most definitely be moving up the ladder when they get out, hell, you paid for their training!  :wave:

[webcrawler]

On 2005-06-05 11:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-06-05 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


"She is the first to admit that she would be dead, pregnant, homeless or severely drug addicted had we not removed her from her drugging self abusive lifestyle."

Do you think it's coincidence that all graduates say this? Why do you think this mantra is ingrained into each child so thoroughly? To reassure retarded parents such as yourself.  :tup: "

Sounds exactly like the "deadinsaneorjail" crap I was force fed for 2 years. Yes, parents your kids are going to die if you don't hurry up and take a second mortgage on the house and send your program of choice every last cent. :lol:

[Dr. Frankiln]

On 2005-06-05 05:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My mother showed me this link and offered me the opportunity to respond.  I was taken from my bed by escorts in May 2003 and sent to a wilderness program.  I was furious, I tried to escape- almost killing myself and the escorts in the process. I hated my parents for doing this, but I hated them before I went, too.  I was out of control and ruining my life.  I had gone from a top student in an elite private school (having been kicked out of my prior elite private school) to a truant student at a terrible public school. I had a sick relationship with my girlfriend and was drinking and smoking pot. I was ruining my academic and athletic future. I didn't care. All I cared about was medicating the pain. I won't go into the whole background, but I WAS out of control and my parents had no ability to manage me. No one could have managed me.  I lied to my therapist, even though I really liked him.  I lied to everyone. I did whatever I wanted. So-imagine my shock when I was not able to escape from my escorts and I found myself in the Utah woods!  I love nature and the outdoors and I liked the physical challenge of wilderness.  I resisted the therapy for weeks. I wrote mean and angry letters to my parents. I was devastated at being separated from my girlfriend.  Within days I realized I needed to be in wilderness, but I thought a few weeks would be fine to get my head straightened out. The therapists and my parents had other ideas. After about 6 weeks in wilderness I admitted, honestly,how screwed up I had become. I wrote volumes of journals. I opened up to my peers and the therapists. I agreed to transition to a therapeutic boarding school. I absolutely despised the school- I had very little freedom and they lied about the opportunities for me to pursue my sport. I thought the academics sucked, although it turned out there were a few great teachers and I did fine. I was furious at my parents all over and I planned to run away from the school.  I actually helped some of my classmates escape (they were caught in 4 days and sent back to wilderness) but I didn't go. I took a different approach and made the most of my experience. I made my parents miserable for awhile, then we managed to work together on a plan for my future.  I broke a number of rules at the school (hey, that's what I do!). I did not complete the program because I was admitted to a normal prep boarding school for fall 2004 and the therapeutic school made me leave early because I wasn't "committed".  The school helped a lot of kids. Wilderness helped even more. Did they all "make it"?  Not at all.  The kids who have big addictions tend to go back to their old ways. What I learned was that I was costing myself my future. I treated people badly- my parents, my girlfriend, my teachers.... That needed to change. I came home a year ago and I am succeeding in every area of my life. I am sorry I lost a year, but it needed to happen.  I hated every minute of the school, and resented being removed from my life for wilderness.  I actually went back to wilderness for a second stint when I got in trouble at the therapeutic school. That offered me a good opportunity (I asked to go back to wilderness) to see the attitudes and problems of the new kids coming into the group. I laughed at how they sounded just like me the year before. I heard, "This is a mistake. I'll be home in 3 weeks."  "Just because I smoked a little pot my parents sent me away."  "I don't need school."  

Well, guys. It all depends what you want from your life. My parents knew what I wanted, and they knew I had lost my way. I was angry and violent and they could not have me in their household.  They saved me. I am still an arrogant jerk a lot of the time, but I am in a great high school and am headed for a great college. I learned some things about relationships.  I'm still pretty bad at some things, but I have more tools than I did before treatment.  So- stop generalizing about the horrors of escorts and programs. My escorts were actually cool guys and very professional once we got past me almost killing them."

She advcates sending kids off even telling parents who have a 17 year old to take them out of texas to meed escorts! If i was you i would go to the strugging teens board and read her every post about you! I wont repeat what she said about you on this board, i could do it but i respect your privicy.

[Dr. Frankiln]

you wonder how i know it was you? Simple you mom told your lifes story on the stuggling teens board! Did you get tackled in the drivway? You know why she warned the escorts that you was a distnace runner and you would escape if you got away from them. Nice mom! You know after you grabbed the steering wheel and spun out the car the escorts called her and ask to use restraingts on you (what was funny is that she told them to use them from the beginning). Really nice caring mom! I know a good lock up nursing home. Maybee she can sue her way out? She is no good snake of a lawyer who helps parents get around the law in sending their kids to abusive programs.

Also this forum on this board is being discussed now on the strugging teens board
http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 2;t=001054

[Dr. Frankiln]

On 2005-06-05 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well I was "invited" to view your forum.  I belong to strugglingteens.  I am one of those insane parents who has placed a child long term in residential treatment.



I am struck by the anger, the language and the condemnation thrown in our direction.



I am sorry if you have had abusive experiences at the hands of a therapeutic school.  :sad:  I am also sorry that my daughter required more help than I was able to provide her with.  :sad:  Unlike many of you, my daughter is not angry with her placement.  She is the first to admit that she would be dead, pregnant, homeless or severely drug addicted had we not removed her from her drugging self abusive lifestyle.  That is all I need to know... that I have made a loving decision!!



I earnestly hope that at some point you can all make peace with your pasts, with your parents and move in a healthy happier direction.



A loving parent."

We are now taking psyco parents like you at Straight by the Sea. The straight mobile is on it way to take you out of your delisional lifestyle.
http://fornits.com/SIBS

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Enjoy the front row!

[Devlin]

Invitation to Dev's website??
Jena
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Member # 1044 posted June 05, 2005 12:42 PM                        
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I also got one, but didn't bother to click on it. Now that I see that he is copying material from this forum, I will have to do something about it.

Lon gets rather mad at people who use his website to further their own. I will let him know this is going on immediately.

Jena

1.  Its not my website. I just post on it.

2.  This webiste tells the truth about programs and is not censored like struggling teens.

3.  When you post anything on a public board it becomes public property and we can use it or even re-post it as long as the message on the board is not copywrighted. I never saw a copywright in the stuggling teens site or no statement telling no one to re-post anything on the site so your fucked.

4.  Who cares if we are discussing the lack of parenting skills on struggling teen or not. We are just discussing program parents and how delusional they are and your replys only show that i was right almost every parent on struggling teens is in need of pyschatric care.

May i suggest Straight by the Sea......

mose
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  posted June 05, 2005 06:59 AM                        
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He is a sick twisted fellow.
What a tragic way for him to live his small petty life by harrassing parents on the internet.

I wonder if it?s legal for him to cut and paste your words from this site and post publicly on another board.
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Moose get a life i think you are a sick twisted sadistic parent who tortues kids. You are the twisted one! Fuck you!
  [ This Message was edited by: Devlin on 2005-06-05 14:06 ]

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-05 13:16:00, Dr. Frankiln wrote:

"Also this forum on this board is being discussed now on the strugging teens board

http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=001054"

LMAO, that is some funny shit posted over there. Obviously they can't handle the truth. It's like all program parent clubs, self supporting psychos who think they are great. :tup:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-05 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well I was "invited" to view your forum.  I belong to strugglingteens.  I am one of those insane parents who has placed a child long term in residential treatment.



I am struck by the anger, the language and the condemnation thrown in our direction.



I am sorry if you have had abusive experiences at the hands of a therapeutic school.  :sad:  I am also sorry that my daughter required more help than I was able to provide her with.  :sad:  Unlike many of you, my daughter is not angry with her placement.  She is the first to admit that she would be dead, pregnant, homeless or severely drug addicted had we not removed her from her drugging self abusive lifestyle.  That is all I need to know... that I have made a loving decision!!



I earnestly hope that at some point you can all make peace with your pasts, with your parents and move in a healthy happier direction.



A loving parent."

You are not a loving parents. You are a lazy, selfish, cruel bitch. Instead of BEING A PARENT, instead of looking for ways to help you child, you chose to GIVE HER UP. You chose to hire strangers to kidnap her in the middle of the night and take her to a gulag to be re-wired.

And re-wired she was. Your daughter was beaten into submission and programmed into believing she was "saved" by the program.

Paying someone to do that to your child is not "loving". It is cruel and cold-hearted. I hope for your daughter's sake that she snaps out of it eventually, and I hope that you'll pay for what you did to that poor girl.

[webcrawler]

This is ridiculous. Getting angry because Dev is cutting and pasting? Don't these people think they should get angry about something that has more merit? Good grief!

Is cutting and pasting illegal! I can't believe I just read that. Dev when you get taken to jail for cutting and pasting I'll be the 1st to bond you out. :rofl:

[Anonymous]

This is Andrea - and a troll?  I will not defend myself to any of you nor what I do the ones who are here who know about me and what I do I have great respect for - as we all have our opinions and have gotten past a lot of struggles.  Again to cut/copy/paste is wrong whether you agree with folks or not it is wrong just plain wrong.  Again, your opinions matter this is America - but I do not nor should anyone bash a parent who is desperatly seeking help for their child ever.  At least they are trying - unlike a lot of other parents I know who just abandon their children to the state!  Someone has to come to some sort of truce here and I reccomend and will so on struggling teens that this not keep going on - to continue to feed into a thread like this is a waste of time and energy.  (as I am typing myself) this is the last message I will post here period, you all are out of control.  Good luck with  your ventures in life, be safe and healthy.
Andrea

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-05 15:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Again to cut/copy/paste is wrong whether you agree with folks or not it is wrong just plain wrong."

Umm, no it's not.

[Devlin]

Author  Topic: Invitation to Dev's website??  
goldenguru
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  posted June 05, 2005 04:26 AM                        
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Just wondering how many of us were invited to visit "Wayward Web" by Devlin?

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=9&22

I was saddened that others are insensitive enough to take our painful stories and post then on another site for enjoyment.

Dev (or whatever your real name is)~
I am sick of this war of words. Just leave us be. We don't ask you to bless our parenting decisions. But, I don't think we deserve to be berated by others who do not necessarily agree with our decisions. If I want your opinions I know where to find you and your website. But, please, please leave us in peace. Thanks

[ June 05, 2005, 04:27 AM: Message edited by: goldenguru ]

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KareninDallas
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  posted June 05, 2005 05:53 AM                        
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I received the same invitation. It is a pretty pathetic website and all the anger is very sad. You will note that a teen has responded recently with an opposing view.
I also don't agree that this site is censored. The posters on the other site don't realize that this forum is for support and information- not for a debate on whether we are awful parents for choosing out of the home placements.
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Parents for Residential Reform
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  posted June 05, 2005 06:13 AM                        
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I actually got the an email went on the site and told them it was not appropriate I am so so very concerned all the time about confidentiality of parents and most imporantly children.

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mose
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  posted June 05, 2005 06:59 AM                        
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He is a sick twisted fellow.
What a tragic way for him to live his small petty life by harrassing parents on the internet.

I wonder if it?s legal for him to cut and paste your words from this site and post publicly on another board.
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katsmom
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  posted June 05, 2005 07:55 AM                        
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Yep, I got the invite too. What a pathetic, uneducated and cruel thread that was. I will not bother responding there. It doesn't even hurt me because I am happy and my DD is happy with her placement. The staff called me yesterday afternoon and said DD was having a blast trying out for the dance team. All is right in my world right now.
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Jena
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  posted June 05, 2005 12:42 PM                        
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I also got one, but didn't bother to click on it. Now that I see that he is copying material from this forum, I will have to do something about it.

Lon gets rather mad at people who use his website to further their own. I will let him know this is going on immediately.

Jena
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KareninDallas
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  posted June 05, 2005 03:25 PM                        
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I suggest that we all stay away from that site. They seem to be out of control right now- lots of 4 letter words and personal attacks against us. I think the main reason for the 4 letter words is that they can't spell anything longer than that, to tell you the truth.
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Parents for Residential Reform
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  posted June 05, 2005 03:53 PM                        
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Karen I agree I actually just posted their they accused me of something or another and called me a troll? I am not sure what that means in that context but I am not going back their ever, I disagree with anyone cut/copying/pasting messages from others on another board and let them have it for it.
Andrea

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goldenguru
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  posted June 05, 2005 03:54 PM                        
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Oh Karen~
You are sooo right. It is a very hostile, toxic place. I was called a few choice four letter words.

I am sorry that I posted this entire topic. I am sorry that I ever was sucked into going that website. It is very disturbing indeed!!

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[Nihilanthic]

Whats sad, is these people ARENT trolling.

They really are deluded into thinking their kids have all these problems and all these phantoms and goblins are out to get them, and the only salvation is the program - but they cant dare know how their kid is doing, talk to their kid, etc - and they cant dare think too much or the delusion breaks and they realize they fucked up.

And, not wanting to do so, they keep their kid in the little concentration camp, and whine about it.

Sorry for the lack of sympathy  ::boohoo::

The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.




--Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley, 1958

[webcrawler]

On 2005-06-05 15:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"This is Andrea - and a troll?  I will not defend myself to any of you nor what I do the ones who are here who know about me and what I do I have great respect for - as we all have our opinions and have gotten past a lot of struggles.  Again to cut/copy/paste is wrong whether you agree with folks or not it is wrong just plain wrong.  Again, your opinions matter this is America - but I do not nor should anyone bash a parent who is desperatly seeking help for their child ever.  At least they are trying - unlike a lot of other parents I know who just abandon their children to the state!  Someone has to come to some sort of truce here and I reccomend and will so on struggling teens that this not keep going on - to continue to feed into a thread like this is a waste of time and energy.  (as I am typing myself) this is the last message I will post here period, you all are out of control.  Good luck with  your ventures in life, be safe and healthy.

Andrea"

Umm you just bashed people here by calling them out of control. Everyone here should continue to speak out against the teen brainwashing programs in the hopes that parents will finally get a clue and stop believing program propagana. These people franchising treatment programs like it's McDonalds are no better than the holy rollers on TV telling you to send all your hard earned money to them to gain entry to heaven.

As if taking out a second mortgage and wiping out the family savings were not not enough the program I was in had the parents out peddling Christmas trees on corners to line the snakes pockets even more.

Considering what was posted was on a public board Devlin does have the right to use the material as he pleases. Are you worried some parents just may wake up from their deep sleep? Maybe the parents should have been doing a better job at raising their children from day one so little Billy and Susie didn't have to be sent away for brainwashing. Granted there are children who truly suffer from a mental illness, but most of the kids sent to these programs are not out there doing a bunch of drastic things like the programs would have you believe. If anything many of the kids tend to exaggerate what they did under pressure from staff or to try and fit in with the group. I think the parents are the real ones out of contol and that's what they can't stand. They can't stand the fact that their children do not wish to be little zombies and robots.