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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2005, 11:17:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-05 03:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I know that struggling teens is sensored I also know that most people here either are not qualified to make a decision for a parent, and to bash them, while whomever is sitting home on a computer with nothing better to do is insane.  I would suggest that if people want change they find a  better way to do it, where they are heard, and not seen as without any verasity.  I have learned that it is okay to be assertive but never agressive.  Over the top is not heard or recognized by the folks that need to hear the truth.  Being a survivor of a horrific experience is never easy - I assure you of that but this board or any board on the internet is not the place to heal - trauma needs therapy, and if you are not healthy then you can't make a difference, and without names or specific posting it is quite obvious to me that a lot of people are not healthy enough to be giving advice.  Secondly all parents including myself make mistakes so I am not buying that their are perfect parents so cut the _S really.  Bottom line their are going to be a group of kids in this country - world for that matter that need the level of care in a residential school.  You can't change that I can't change that, what I do work hard to change is that parents are honestly informed, and well informed when making these choices, know their rights and their kids rights.  I really believe that some who are posting are going through alot due to whatever in their lives - if you are angry at your parents work this out with them, not some other kids parents at some point no matter what happened (and I am not lessening any alleged abuses in your lives) we all have to grow up - get past it - and act like adults.

Good luck."

Again, who are YOU tell tell us what is appropriate to post here and not? There is that program arrogance, remember??

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I have learned that it is okay to be assertive but never agressive.

I used to think this too.. I was a pretty passive person before I had to deal with WWASP fuckheads like you. Funny how they brought the aggression right out of me!!

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Being a survivor of a horrific experience is never easy - I assure you of that but this board or any board on the internet is not the place to heal - trauma needs therapy, and if you are not healthy then you can't make a difference, and without names or specific posting it is quite obvious to me that a lot of people are not healthy enough to be giving advice.

You're kiddnig right? This board is for SURVIVORS of programs to tell their story, who needs therapy to remember what happened to them within the past couple years? To heal all we need is to get out of the program and get away from the sadistic cult that runs WWASP. [and its chronies like you!]

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I know that struggling teens is sensored I also know that most people here either are not qualified to make a decision for a parent, and to bash them, while whomever is sitting home on a computer with nothing better to do is insane.

This quote just makes you sound insane, it makes no sense. Again, insulting to all who read these boards. You really think highly of yourself huh? IF you dont want to read our posts, LEAVE- nobody will miss you.

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Bottom line their are going to be a group of kids in this country - world for that matter that need the level of care in a residential school.

And, so there will always be a population of Parents with grown children who want NOTHING to do with them for the remainder of their adult lives. Children who grow up and eventally get the chance to pay the karma back to their parents by sticking them in an abusive old people's home. Ahh, sweet irony!

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I really believe that some who are posting are going through alot due to whatever in their lives - if you are angry at your parents work this out with them, not some other kids parents at some point no matter what happened (and I am not lessening any alleged abuses in your lives) we all have to grow up - get past it - and act like adults.


Again, great to tell us about ourselves even though you are obviously CLUELESS! If the people you trust most in your life, payed people to kidnap you, transport you in handcuffs to a shithold prison in the middle of nowhere one night and leave you there for almost 2 years at the hands of saidistc abusive HICKS that put you in a cage if you misbehave- lets see if you don't hold a grudge... something is telling me you would.

To all the keyboard jocky WWASP supporters here, you have NOOOO idea what some of us went through. You can cling to the success stories the suck up students write- the ones who have a grand old time as one of the staffs buddies. Well guess what, some of spent most of our time in isolation and fear and that feeling is hard to get rid of, even now.

These programs should be SHUT DOWN. and ANYONE who tries to open one should be arrested.

The problem is NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. Even the parents who know they made a mistake, very few come forward. To the ones who do - I COMMEND YOU ON BEING HONEST. It's not easy admitting you made a mistake, especially such a big mistake involving the lives of your children.

Stop defending abuse anon, you sound like a Pentagon Spokesperson explaining why Abu Gharib 'wasn't that bad.' Belive me, it sounds exactly the same..
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« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-05 08:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Obviously, you got out of your program too soon. Do you really think you are emotionally healthy and have a right to judge other people?  Get a grip."


:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Yeah.. maybe I should see if the program takes 25 year olds now, huh? Fuck you. Of course I am not emotionally healthy, I am filled with rage and hate for PROGRAM PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Don't you get it yet?
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2005, 11:31:00 AM »
Constant beatings, suicides, forced to painful hold positions for days/months, emotional torture, kids cutting themselves trying to die, trying to hang themseves, more beatings, sexual abuse, dog cages, face on the ground for days, starvation, lack of water, the list could go on and on...

and the best response you have is:

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Bottom line their are going to be a group of kids in this country - world for that matter that need the level of care in a residential school.


PAGING MR.RUMSFELD, WE FOUND YOU A NEW EMPLOYEE FOR GITMO!
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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2005, 11:32:00 AM »
It's funny how when this shit happens to arab people who aren't even US citizens the world unites against the US govt. When we do it to our own kids, no one blinks an eye. Says a lot about the society our parents have created. Time to change!
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2005, 11:41:00 AM »
You know what - this is not a board for theraputic reasons and if it is and you all are turning here for help - then you are worse off than what I ever imagined.  Have you ever heard of Pink Slip? :wave:   Maybe you should check into it!
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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2005, 12:04:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-05 05:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My mother showed me this link and offered me the opportunity to respond.  I was taken from my bed by escorts in May 2003 and sent to a wilderness program.  I was furious, I tried to escape- almost killing myself and the escorts in the process. I hated my parents for doing this, but I hated them before I went, too.  I was out of control and ruining my life.  I had gone from a top student in an elite private school (having been kicked out of my prior elite private school) to a truant student at a terrible public school. I had a sick relationship with my girlfriend and was drinking and smoking pot. I was ruining my academic and athletic future. I didn't care. All I cared about was medicating the pain. I won't go into the whole background, but I WAS out of control and my parents had no ability to manage me. No one could have managed me.  I lied to my therapist, even though I really liked him.  I lied to everyone. I did whatever I wanted. So-imagine my shock when I was not able to escape from my escorts and I found myself in the Utah woods!  I love nature and the outdoors and I liked the physical challenge of wilderness.  I resisted the therapy for weeks. I wrote mean and angry letters to my parents. I was devastated at being separated from my girlfriend.  Within days I realized I needed to be in wilderness, but I thought a few weeks would be fine to get my head straightened out. The therapists and my parents had other ideas. After about 6 weeks in wilderness I admitted, honestly,how screwed up I had become. I wrote volumes of journals. I opened up to my peers and the therapists. I agreed to transition to a therapeutic boarding school. I absolutely despised the school- I had very little freedom and they lied about the opportunities for me to pursue my sport. I thought the academics sucked, although it turned out there were a few great teachers and I did fine. I was furious at my parents all over and I planned to run away from the school.  I actually helped some of my classmates escape (they were caught in 4 days and sent back to wilderness) but I didn't go. I took a different approach and made the most of my experience. I made my parents miserable for awhile, then we managed to work together on a plan for my future.  I broke a number of rules at the school (hey, that's what I do!). I did not complete the program because I was admitted to a normal prep boarding school for fall 2004 and the therapeutic school made me leave early because I wasn't "committed".  The school helped a lot of kids. Wilderness helped even more. Did they all "make it"?  Not at all.  The kids who have big addictions tend to go back to their old ways. What I learned was that I was costing myself my future. I treated people badly- my parents, my girlfriend, my teachers.... That needed to change. I came home a year ago and I am succeeding in every area of my life. I am sorry I lost a year, but it needed to happen.  I hated every minute of the school, and resented being removed from my life for wilderness.  I actually went back to wilderness for a second stint when I got in trouble at the therapeutic school. That offered me a good opportunity (I asked to go back to wilderness) to see the attitudes and problems of the new kids coming into the group. I laughed at how they sounded just like me the year before. I heard, "This is a mistake. I'll be home in 3 weeks."  "Just because I smoked a little pot my parents sent me away."  "I don't need school."  

Well, guys. It all depends what you want from your life. My parents knew what I wanted, and they knew I had lost my way. I was angry and violent and they could not have me in their household.  They saved me. I am still an arrogant jerk a lot of the time, but I am in a great high school and am headed for a great college. I learned some things about relationships.  I'm still pretty bad at some things, but I have more tools than I did before treatment.  So- stop generalizing about the horrors of escorts and programs. My escorts were actually cool guys and very professional once we got past me almost killing them."




Don't worry your brainwashing will wear off in 5 to 10 years too. Most of us that completed these abusive programs once sounded like you too.
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« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2005, 12:11:00 PM »
^^^ I totally missed that post you quoted. I will refrain from responding, it's just too damn funny. And sad at the same time..
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« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2005, 12:31:00 PM »
The programs discussed on the ST board bear no resemblance to what you are describing on this site. The wilderness programs are not at all abusive. The kids hike and work in groups. They deal with tough therapeutic issues, but there is no abuse and their equipment is top of the line.  The TBSs resemble nice prep schools. There are no dog cages and no pysical abuse. The kids are not brainwashed. The kids are safe and have the freedom to express their feelings and emotions. Perhaps you should do a little more research.
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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2005, 12:36:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-05 09:31:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The programs discussed on the ST board bear no resemblance to what you are describing on this site. The wilderness programs are not at all abusive. The kids hike and work in groups. They deal with tough therapeutic issues, but there is no abuse and their equipment is top of the line.  The TBSs resemble nice prep schools. There are no dog cages and no pysical abuse. The kids are not brainwashed. The kids are safe and have the freedom to express their feelings and emotions. Perhaps you should do a little more research."

The kids are "safe" and have "freedom?"  More research for ME?  How about a reality check for YOU.

Perhaps you should try shutting the fuck up rather than regurgitating a program brochure...
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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2005, 01:20:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-05 08:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

""Hmm, maybe it's time we go and start picking off program advocates such as yourself? That might help, wouldn't you say?! So fuck off, and don't tell me how I should act. If you believe in therapy so much go enroll. Fuck you, I hope you leave this earth soon- we need less people like you here."



Obviously, you got out of your program too soon. Do you really think you are emotionally healthy and have a right to judge other people?  Get a grip."


Looks to me like you're telling people what to do, Judge.

Is everyone that posts positives on this board considered a troll?
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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2005, 01:24:00 PM »
Have you BEEN to Hidden Lake, Carlbrook, Oakley, Second Nature Wilderness, Catherine Freer, Soltrek or any of the other top programs?
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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2005, 01:50:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-05 10:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Have you BEEN to Hidden Lake, Carlbrook, Oakley, Second Nature Wilderness, Catherine Freer, Soltrek or any of the other top programs?  "


Hiddden Lake is a CEDU descendent program. It is abusive and corrupt. Two children died at Catherine Freer. Second Nature is also highly abusive.

"Top programs"? More like gulags that manage to be subtle enough to fool people like you.
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2005, 02:04:00 PM »
Second Nature is not abusive. I know many families who have had positive experiences. Same with Hidden Lake.  You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm out of here.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2005, 02:06:00 PM »
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"Second Nature is not abusive. I know many families who have had positive experiences. Same with Hidden Lake.  You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm out of here."


Thank GOD, it's about time. Go market your programs elsewhere!  :wave:
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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2005, 02:31:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-03 19:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I will say this it is not appropriate in my opinon to cut/copy/paste from another list or board it would be better appropriate to use a link to the board.  The folks that turn to them looking for help are desperate and I know if it were me I would be very angry at this cut/copy/paste thing not to say I agree with the folks who run the stuff there, I am always posting about escorts, ed consultants, programs that are not licensed etc., and get a lot of flack because of it, but I keep doing it as it is the truth - I don't do it in an offensive way and I don't bash the parents as they are desperate.  

Andrea

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Just so you are aware in the future, if you post something on the internet- DO NOT expect anyone to respect your right to privacy. If you don't want it scrutinized, reposted or whatever, keep it private and don't post it on a public message board.  :idea:
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