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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2005, 12:54:00 PM »
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Well, I haven't kicked my son out. He's opted not to come home. I found out where he is staying and it is a safe place. I'm guessing he thinks I'm going to send him away in the middle of the night. I'm going to let him continue where he is for now.

As for sending him away again. It is possible, but then I wonder why should everyone else in the family have to suffer. I'm still in serious debt from the $100,000 we spent on him during the past couple of years. This time we would have to sell the house and four of us would be moving into an apartment all so he could get his act together until he turns 18. And then, who knows what would happen. So I'm trying to justify why he gets all the resources and the kids who are doing well get none.


This is SOOOOOO typical of WWASP parents. She could let him stay where he is, and admits is safe, or spend 100k keeping him in jail until he's 18 to the detriment of all his siblings who have to move into an apartment!

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DAMN WWASP AND ALL STAFF TO HELL

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2005, 02:28:00 PM »
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As for sending him away again. It is possible, but then I wonder why should everyone else in the family have to suffer. I'm still in serious debt from the $100,000 we spent on him during the past couple of years. This time we would have to sell the house and four of us would be moving into an apartment all so he could get his act together until he turns 18. And then, who knows what would happen. So I'm trying to justify why he gets all the resources and the kids who are doing well get none.

This is so typical of program parents. It's "how
dare you hate the program, we spent so much MONEY
on you, you ingrate!" I predict that that $100,000
will be a major issue between that kid and his
parents forever.

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2005, 04:14:00 PM »
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As for sending him away again. It is possible, but then I wonder why should everyone else in the family have to suffer. I'm still in serious debt from the $100,000 we spent on him during the past couple of years. This time we would have to sell the house and four of us would be moving into an apartment all so he could get his act together until he turns 18. And then, who knows what would happen. So I'm trying to justify why he gets all the resources and the kids who are doing well get none.


This is so typical of program parents. It's "how

dare you hate the program, we spent so much MONEY

on you, you ingrate!" I predict that that $100,000

will be a major issue between that kid and his

parents forever.

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
--James Madison, U.S. President

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If I were the kid and the parent brought up the $100,000 with me I would just point out that it is a testament to their sadism or their stupidity and, either way, it is nothing to boast about.
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2005, 05:35:00 PM »
It does not bode well for america when the MONEY is all that matters, not the kids well being, or rather that the "paid result" the parent wants - a broken kid - is placed higher than the kids well being.

Its also a damn dirty shame when a parent gets had, and instead of pulling their kid out, they 'save face' and make the kid 'work the program' so they dont feel like the failure they are, because god knows if youre an adult you're not allowed to be a failure!

I really wonder if this is a result of how they were treated as a kid, and when they finally grow out of being a kid they want to be the empowered adults that dominated them in their childhood. But, I'm neither freud nor a psychologist, so that determination isnt up to me to make.

I do know when someone fucks up and whines for help on struggling teens because they're still in their victim DELUSION, and wants to beLIEve in the program instead of get their kid out, get real, and get real help for the damage they done, they deserve all the bullshit that anyone is around to throw at them. Maybe a TINY fraction of what their kid went through, directed at them, might make them have some 'emotional growth'. But then again, they can just not read the text. A kid cant even try to run away, or cover his ears, or tune it out, or they get it WORSE as punishment!

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2005, 07:45:00 PM »
Reading these stories has made me physically and emotionally ill! These parents are just plain nuts. Talk about people who need a program! My God, those poor kids.
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2005, 10:21:00 PM »
I am not saying I agree with struggling teens or their methods but who assigned you as the end all be all of people.  Leave these parents alone if they want your advice then they will come here, or go post on the board there at struggling teens, I am truly sick of this, as adults you are acting like children yourselves.  As I have said in the past if you don't like what is going on with programs get off your duffs and do something, don't sit on the internet all day and post bashing parents.  Although I may not agree with some of the programs they place their children in or even how they get them there, I do think honestly they are trying to get their child help so they are not bad parents, they are loving parents who don't know where else to turn.  
It seems to me the drama in some of the posts here shows traumatization and their is a thing called therapy I would highly reccomend and in a hurry.
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2005, 10:43:00 PM »
yes, we sure are an insensitive crew when it comes to these  loser parents who fail to meet minimum standards of parental guidance. i'm not even buying "but i didn't know it was abusive!" anymore. do just a wee bit of research you pathetic, lousy, lazy parents! i suppose that was insensitive.

"  ::mecry::   wah!!! i suck as a parent! now i wanna screw my kid up for good! where can i find a good kidnapper and a lock-down for my kid with torture included?"

"wahhh!!! oh honey, you're only at the beginning of your troubles! i had to hock half my diamonds, including my tennis bracelet to get my kid in! now we can't get the 50-inch tv we wanted! wahhh!!!"

"wahhh!!! i'm clueless! wahhh!!"

who can you make fun of anymore? niggers, micks, wops, and spinks are out -- to un-p.c.  the new entertaining segment of the population to make fun of is the Idiot for a New American Century! our 21st century mascot of stupidity!!!!   tune in to Oprah to see them live! hardcore fans, watch Dr. Phil!  many, many specimens gathered in one place!

frankly i consider it my fucking patriotic duty to make fun of these people. i pledge allegiance to the trolls of the forums where idiotic parents go...
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2005, 11:47:00 PM »
Anon (Andrea?),
As you well know, 'negative' opinions and comments are censored at ST.

There are some who believe it is program parents who are 'acting like children'- stereotypical teens anyway- narcissitic, ignorant, lazy....
You seem to confuse 'drama' with rightous indignation. Go to ST for 'drama' and group delusion. It sometimes happens that a swift hit of honesty can jolt someone back to reality.
Who appointed you the Defender of program parents?
Desperate Housewives has been such a huge success, perhaps the public is ready for Desperate Program Parents.

You apparently haven't groked the impact of what some have endured. If a group of survivors arrived at your home unnanounced, kidnapped you, and held you incommunicado for 2 or 3 years, I'm guessing you might then see this industry for what it is, and have more sympathy for those who have been abused in the name of 'therapy'. I'd also bet that you'd have a negative opinion of those survivors or anyone who resembled them.

If the wimpy parents at ST can't take criticism- if they happened to stumble in here- they shouldn't be whining publicly, commiserating about how they are 'victims of their kids' and desperately willing to abdicate responsibility to some strangers to relieve themselves of the intolerable life challenges they are faced with.

I'm sorry they have been bred to be ignorant... but where does the buck stop?
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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2005, 06:58:00 AM »
I know that struggling teens is sensored I also know that most people here either are not qualified to make a decision for a parent, and to bash them, while whomever is sitting home on a computer with nothing better to do is insane.  I would suggest that if people want change they find a  better way to do it, where they are heard, and not seen as without any verasity.  I have learned that it is okay to be assertive but never agressive.  Over the top is not heard or recognized by the folks that need to hear the truth.  Being a survivor of a horrific experience is never easy - I assure you of that but this board or any board on the internet is not the place to heal - trauma needs therapy, and if you are not healthy then you can't make a difference, and without names or specific posting it is quite obvious to me that a lot of people are not healthy enough to be giving advice.  Secondly all parents including myself make mistakes so I am not buying that their are perfect parents so cut the _S really.  Bottom line their are going to be a group of kids in this country - world for that matter that need the level of care in a residential school.  You can't change that I can't change that, what I do work hard to change is that parents are honestly informed, and well informed when making these choices, know their rights and their kids rights.  I really believe that some who are posting are going through alot due to whatever in their lives - if you are angry at your parents work this out with them, not some other kids parents at some point no matter what happened (and I am not lessening any alleged abuses in your lives) we all have to grow up - get past it - and act like adults.
Good luck.
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2005, 07:57:00 AM »
Wow, Andrea is such a good troll, no one can tell. Props!  :nworthy:  :lol:
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2005, 08:46:00 AM »
My mother showed me this link and offered me the opportunity to respond.  I was taken from my bed by escorts in May 2003 and sent to a wilderness program.  I was furious, I tried to escape- almost killing myself and the escorts in the process. I hated my parents for doing this, but I hated them before I went, too.  I was out of control and ruining my life.  I had gone from a top student in an elite private school (having been kicked out of my prior elite private school) to a truant student at a terrible public school. I had a sick relationship with my girlfriend and was drinking and smoking pot. I was ruining my academic and athletic future. I didn't care. All I cared about was medicating the pain. I won't go into the whole background, but I WAS out of control and my parents had no ability to manage me. No one could have managed me.  I lied to my therapist, even though I really liked him.  I lied to everyone. I did whatever I wanted. So-imagine my shock when I was not able to escape from my escorts and I found myself in the Utah woods!  I love nature and the outdoors and I liked the physical challenge of wilderness.  I resisted the therapy for weeks. I wrote mean and angry letters to my parents. I was devastated at being separated from my girlfriend.  Within days I realized I needed to be in wilderness, but I thought a few weeks would be fine to get my head straightened out. The therapists and my parents had other ideas. After about 6 weeks in wilderness I admitted, honestly,how screwed up I had become. I wrote volumes of journals. I opened up to my peers and the therapists. I agreed to transition to a therapeutic boarding school. I absolutely despised the school- I had very little freedom and they lied about the opportunities for me to pursue my sport. I thought the academics sucked, although it turned out there were a few great teachers and I did fine. I was furious at my parents all over and I planned to run away from the school.  I actually helped some of my classmates escape (they were caught in 4 days and sent back to wilderness) but I didn't go. I took a different approach and made the most of my experience. I made my parents miserable for awhile, then we managed to work together on a plan for my future.  I broke a number of rules at the school (hey, that's what I do!). I did not complete the program because I was admitted to a normal prep boarding school for fall 2004 and the therapeutic school made me leave early because I wasn't "committed".  The school helped a lot of kids. Wilderness helped even more. Did they all "make it"?  Not at all.  The kids who have big addictions tend to go back to their old ways. What I learned was that I was costing myself my future. I treated people badly- my parents, my girlfriend, my teachers.... That needed to change. I came home a year ago and I am succeeding in every area of my life. I am sorry I lost a year, but it needed to happen.  I hated every minute of the school, and resented being removed from my life for wilderness.  I actually went back to wilderness for a second stint when I got in trouble at the therapeutic school. That offered me a good opportunity (I asked to go back to wilderness) to see the attitudes and problems of the new kids coming into the group. I laughed at how they sounded just like me the year before. I heard, "This is a mistake. I'll be home in 3 weeks."  "Just because I smoked a little pot my parents sent me away."  "I don't need school."  
Well, guys. It all depends what you want from your life. My parents knew what I wanted, and they knew I had lost my way. I was angry and violent and they could not have me in their household.  They saved me. I am still an arrogant jerk a lot of the time, but I am in a great high school and am headed for a great college. I learned some things about relationships.  I'm still pretty bad at some things, but I have more tools than I did before treatment.  So- stop generalizing about the horrors of escorts and programs. My escorts were actually cool guys and very professional once we got past me almost killing them.
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2005, 09:45:00 AM »
Well I was "invited" to view your forum.  I belong to strugglingteens.  I am one of those insane parents who has placed a child long term in residential treatment.

I am struck by the anger, the language and the condemnation thrown in our direction.

I am sorry if you have had abusive experiences at the hands of a therapeutic school.  :sad:  I am also sorry that my daughter required more help than I was able to provide her with.  :sad:  Unlike many of you, my daughter is not angry with her placement.  She is the first to admit that she would be dead, pregnant, homeless or severely drug addicted had we not removed her from her drugging self abusive lifestyle.  That is all I need to know... that I have made a loving decision!!

I earnestly hope that at some point you can all make peace with your pasts, with your parents and move in a healthy happier direction.

A loving parent.
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2005, 11:01:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-04 19:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am not saying I agree with struggling teens or their methods but who assigned you as the end all be all of people.  Leave these parents alone if they want your advice then they will come here, or go post on the board there at struggling teens, I am truly sick of this, as adults you are acting like children yourselves.  As I have said in the past if you don't like what is going on with programs get off your duffs and do something, don't sit on the internet all day and post bashing parents.  Although I may not agree with some of the programs they place their children in or even how they get them there, I do think honestly they are trying to get their child help so they are not bad parents, they are loving parents who don't know where else to turn.  

It seems to me the drama in some of the posts here shows traumatization and their is a thing called therapy I would highly reccomend and in a hurry."


You need to stop telling people how they should act. Your program traits are showing!!!! You have NO right judging people on these boards. It's an internet board for god sake, people should vent and get angry here and BE HONEST. Whoever this is posting is completely arrogant, condescending and just plain immature. Get our our duffs? Are you kidding? Hmm, maybe it's time we go and start picking off program advocates such as yourself? That might help, wouldn't you say?! So fuck off, and don't tell me how I should act. If you believe in therapy so much go enroll. Fuck you, I hope you leave this earth soon- we need less people like you here.
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2005, 11:02:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-05 06:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I earnestly hope that at some point you can all make peace with your pasts, with your parents and move in a healthy happier direction."


That's great you consider yourself a loving parent. Funny how my abusive father still considers himself a great parent to this day. Get some perspective people, if you are dooped, or willingly send a child to WWASP- You've made a BIG mistake, and it might even result in a complete astrangement from your child. Don't blame us parents. We never wanted to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :skull:
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2005, 11:16:00 AM »
"Hmm, maybe it's time we go and start picking off program advocates such as yourself? That might help, wouldn't you say?! So fuck off, and don't tell me how I should act. If you believe in therapy so much go enroll. Fuck you, I hope you leave this earth soon- we need less people like you here."

Obviously, you got out of your program too soon. Do you really think you are emotionally healthy and have a right to judge other people?  Get a grip.
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