Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
Positive MMS emperience
maridell@yahoo.com:
Love all your replies--I never said I was a psychoanalist, but a licensed psychotherapist in CA. As a MFT, I dealt with families and kids dealing with depression, addiction ( including drugs, sex alcohol and eating disorders) and had a 40 patient per week caseload for 10 years. I was affifiliated with local hospital and was re4ferred to by local psychiatrists, medical doctors and programs like yours. I am almost 60 and have been around the block more times than you can imagine. Now, get off your very high horses and listen again to my message: abuses do occur in EVERY setting and if you are still angry, do something about it. If you are a victim, don't live your life as one, go to a professional and get help. If you are not a victim but a justice dog' be productive and organize a REAL crusade for change and supervision. If you are neither, shame on you for your adolescent rantings..and for the sake of the real victims, do not inflame their lives but offer real love,support and encouragement to get the help they need. And for everyone's sake, despite our right to free speech, enough said about two more victims who lost a child from suicide---probably caused by endogenous depression and nothing to do with parenting. This tragedy will someday happen to you or someone you love or know, and with maturity,appropriate compassion CAN be developed. This is my last reply...I'm too old for this hatred............
Anonymous:
thou protesth to much to what???
stop being so personal with everything...take it for what it is.
tamtam:
Gee-- why on earth don't more people feel supportive of the people on this website? Kat, you do a pretty good job of staying calm and rational in your replies. Many of you "anonymous" people, I'm not sure why you don't say who you are. I probably don't know most of you, and don't want to. For the record, this is Tamara and I know Maridell well... it is extremely difficult for me right now to not just lose my temper and sink to levels many of you already have with insults and degradation. I love how there is SOOOOO much anger on this website that no one can believe for one moment simple facts: like Maridell IS a therapist (retired now, but a fabulous and rational one- not to mention she has lived a life equally as challenging as ALL of yours... you little fledglings-- myself included), and also that many of you have so much anger and defensiveness, I am not sure how you plan on making a difference anywhere unless you are able to calm down and pull your head out of your *** long enough to communicate effectively with each other, authorities over boarding-school regulation, etc.... Follow Kat's example- she obviously has enough sense to make clear points, focus on her goal and take the actions to accomplish them. Anyway, this place is definitely not a place to get healthy and get help, even if that was its intended purpose. There isn't an encouraging word anywhere on this site that isn't followed by a belligerent and nasty remark by someone, usually ANONYMOUS. I keep checking the site, but it's rasing my blood pressure and not because it makes me want to change something, it just makes me want to shoot some of you-- and I don't think that's a good sign... I have had the opportunity to talk with some alumni now that I lost touch with, and we are able to find support in each other for our bad experiences without becoming steaming rageful, which is what I see HERE. I hope you succeed in making sure kids get treated right in schools, healing from your own traumas and learn some manners while your at it. Judging from your responses, I imagine I am not the only one who feels pretty furious at many of you when I read all the angry "throwing of insults"- Instead of wanting to support your efforts` I find that I can't stand the way these mind games make me feel... Kat, I wish you could start a new topic or something where people are really sincere in being there for one another, because this shit is pitting me against people I don't even know. It's exhausting just READING the retarded elementary name calling and insults. Anyhow, if you ever get something like that going, contact me. Otherwise, I think I will just go back to interacting with people who contribute to my life and leave you all to dwell in this nastiness. I am sure those of you who I refer to will have a ball ripping this letter apart and rolling your eyes and discrediting everything I say... have at it. I think this place brings out the worst in us, underneath it all some of you might actually be really cool and kind, and so am I-- so I am leaving to find poeple who really WANT to be supportive.
katfish:
I think part of the probelm, again, is people coming in here and making all of these assumptions about MMS alumni that had issues with the program and those alumni getting very angry about that and lashing out in ways that may come across as irrational but let us not forget that beneath that there are still valid emotions and perhaps even the lashing out is indivcative of effect MMS has had- it's hard to take things lightly when you're entire traumatic expereinces are being dismissed b/c (as it comes across to me) it may hurt a couselor whose had a tragedy occur in his life.
Like sunshine has written and others, we shouldn't have to go to therapy b/c a school that was supposed to be therapuetic was not. It's absurd to not even address that point when suggesting we should all let mike and deb be.
the point of discussing mike and deb is b/c for many of us they played a pretty big part in our lives during our developmental years and the tragedy that occured in their lives does not change that fact.
Since when does venting and anger become a bad thing? Maybe b/c people feel baited into having to justify their feelings by alumni or by random therapsists like maribell who feel like they must point out that somehow, in putting our thoughts and feelings on a public forum about harmful effects of MMS constitutes whining (m said sounds, but I take that to mean she believes it to be so) b/c someone may not take action... or in saying that the anger that results against this type of baiting is somehow indicative of needing therapy seems completely absurd.
No on here is qualified to make such a suggestion, therapist or otherwise. And I think feeds into the same things propugated by MMS and anyone else that wants to keep your intolocuter quiet (like someone said above)- just tell them they need therapy, implication being they are not of sound mind and imbalanced, meaning what they have to say is somehow not accurate or valid b/c it has not been run thourgh the therapuetic ringer. I don't see how on earth that makes sense at all.
And M, I wonder, what on earth are you doing here anyway? Presumably you're friends with an alumnus? I think it strange you would espouse your opinions prior to presenting even a direct line of questioning that would give you more to work with that a simple thread on a forum can...I find it insulting and entirely unprofessional that you would have the audacity to call anyone here whiny and immature given you know little about what anyone is doing. I have grave concerns about your 1. level of commitment to professional conduct 2. ethical code. I can't imagine a single respectable therapist would come on here (just really in itself) and use their credentials (whatever those acutally mean) as leverage and speak about a topic so ignorantly.
Anonymous:
Girls, there is something you must remember. This is a public forum and there are, well, some pretty strange people who visit. And of coures, I'm sure I'll get attacked for that comment but face it, it's true.
Just because the thread is MMS, many other than MMS come and throw out their advice and nasty comments. I've seen it everywhere on this forum. So some of the anonymous comments may be coming from people who are not even associated with MMS, or worse, who might even work for MMS.
This is not a place to get healthy, for sure. It's a good place to get one another's email addresses and contact information and then I suggest you reunite outside of here. This is an absolute waste of time.
I only come here when I'm looking for information, otherwise it's too much of a brain drain.
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