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sunshine:
I would love to go to therapy to deal with all this left over nonsense from my childhood. But i can't afford it. Do you think maybe John would like to pay for it? Its not really that urgent, since I am quite capable of functioning without it. But it still bothers me that I would even have to think about going to therapy to get over the therapeutic boarding school chapter in my life. It bothers me that they really could have helped me but they didn't. Not because they didn't want to, but because I don't think they had a clue how to. Other than to makke me think that I was an addict, and then giving me the 12 step solution. That made me feel like I was getting somewhere, i guess. Especially if I was really an addict. But I am not.
As to the whole mike and deb (not John and Deb) thing, I don't think everyone that has a complaint about MMS thinks that they were responsible for their kid. so please dont generalize like that. I cerntainly feel sad about that. We used to play soccer with those kids. In any case, whatever view people have about it, I don't think they have that view because they have nothing better to do, or because they have problems that they are not dealing with in their life. I think it is plainly an opinion.
Ands about doing something about the school, if you want to be compassionate and understanding and all that, you should sign Kats petition.
Busy, curious, thirsty fly, Drink with me, and drink as I.
-- William Oldys (1696-1761): On a Fly drinking out of a Cup of Ale.
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Anonymous:
People that use "witty" sarcastic remarks to cut down the opinion of someone who made a concise and logical point... you just confirmed the "immaturity factor" =) Sarcasm is a tool most poeple use when trapped- or when the subject matter is TRUE and they want to avoid the issue. And THAT, my friends, is something I did learn at MMS, but learned from personal experience and I think most would agree. YOu may think it's so clever to be sarcastic and propose she jump on a plane and come there (which is clearly not what the writer intended to suggest)... but if I had any doubts that the anonymous therapists opinion was at all valid, you just convinced me. Like a bull rushing towards the red cape, you did exactly what is expected of people for who that little summary from "maridell" applies. Why don't you apply a little THOUGHT into your convictions. Your sarcasm is a poor excuse for your insecurity. If I get another response with pointless sarcasm aimed to slash holes in my opinion.... read the above AGAIN.
Anonymous:
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On 2005-07-02 08:19:00, maridell@yahoo.com wrote:
"As a credentialed psychotherapist and teacher,this line of attack about John and Deb is really appalling, not because you have no right to air your views, but because you aren't dealing with current issues. You prefer to bash two broken people who most likely beat themselves up about their son's death far more than any of you kids can imagine.
Why don't you talk about yourselves in the present and support each other on current traumas and triumphs and take your painful memories to a professional who can help you gain understanding, stability and compassion about past wrongs from parents, teachers and others. Or else, be productive and go to your Montana authorities and the press with serious, well-planned attack on an institution you believe needs supervision. Otherwise, this sounds like a bunch of immature whining...........
what do you mean 'not dealing with current issues"? Past often very much plays a role in present behaviors. Just like your present determines your future, your past determines your present. There are plenty threads where girls reunite and talk about present affairs, but role MMS played in our lives very much lends itself to prestent circumstances. Esp. when one considers all the anxiety even admitting MMS was problematic brings up.
Many would prefer to sweep stuff under the rug, even after admitting much should have been done differently. The few that don't feel it's acceptable to slide such things under the rug to leave others to deal with or to leave other girls to needlessly suffer b/c of ignorance are involved in taking action at many levels of the spectrum- doing their part as best they can. This industry is a huge money making machine. I'm sure MT rakes in more in this industry than any other, or most any other.
This will take time- public is virtually unaware and not many politicians have our back. Many organizations are run by those who are inexperienced at running non-profits and, while there are PhD's and plenty of other organizations that do not recommend these programs for many kids
- but wide spread ignorance continues to plague many. In sue time, i suppose. Unfortunately big money and big egos seem to rule at the moment. ahem- john mercer, for instance
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Anonymous:
what does understanding past wrongs have to do with righting past wrongs?
I have a hard time believing maridell is credentialed psychotherapist given she is dispensing with such advise that would sound entirely moronic to anyone- esp one with a PhD or exp. working with children. Pushing for MMS alumni to not talk about bad shit that happened at MMS and try and make sense of it, while simultaneuously pushing for bull shit covnersation is the most absurd thing I have ever heard suggested on this post, esp. b/c seems you wish to use a degree title to push some sort sense of legitimacy to what you are saying... Sorry, a moron can have be a pyschotherapist too- I've had a few of them cross my path, present company included.
snore--zzzzzzzz...it's boring. Don't you hate when people talk about shit they know nothing about?
Spare me the BS Mari- and please don't pretend like what you're saying is sensible- you may be go on to get your PhD and still be talking out of your ass hole. I fear, if you are in fact p.t. & teacher, that your students may be under the sway of an individual who presumes to know much, but likely know's very little. Very scary. And worse, can't admit ignorance when clearly that's the case.
BTW, MMS has worked miracles on you, I can hear it in what you say. sweet.
Anonymous:
REPLYING TO BESTY
As a credentialed psychotherapist
YEAH RIGHT
and teacher
SCARY THOUGHT
,this line of attack about John and Deb is really appalling, not because you have no right to air your views, but
because you aren't dealing with current issues.
HOW ON EARTH WOULD YOU KNOW WHO'S DEALING WITH WHAT?
You prefer to bash two broken people
BASH? AWRIGHT, MMS ALUMNUS
who most likely beat themselves up about their son's death far more than any of you kids can imagine.
THE ISSUE IS NOT WHAT THEY DID TO THEIR KIDS, WHO CARES WHAT THEY DID TO THEIR KID? KIDS GONE AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE OR WHAT THEY DID NOT DO WILL HAUNT THEM FOREVER, BUT JUST B/C SOMEONE EXPEREINCES A TRAGEDY DOES NOT ABSOLVE THEM FROM RESPONSIBILITY OF THEIR PAST WRONGS. THE ISSUE IS WHAT THEY DID TO US. AND NOT ONE BUT US WILL BRING THIS TO THE SURFACE. NO ONE BUT US IS RESPONSIBLE (FULLY) TO BRING PAST WRONGS TO LIGHT.
I JUST CAN'T STOP ROLLING MY EYES AT THIS POST.
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