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Anonymous:
Dear Antigen,
YOU are the brainless one here... you made a completely rash and UNINFORMED statement.  "Any parent that can't give their child the bare minimum care to prevent them from committing suicide..." I don't know you, but I assume you are young... because you blunder into issues like a bull in quicksand.  Do you stop to think ever? Or do you just speak from anger?  Funny, your personal feelings allow you to be a harsh judge.  Deb and Mike are tough, their kid was probably even tougher, and learned from a young age how to handle dad.. just as we all learn to manipulate our parents.  Why is it that EVERYONE blames the counselors and NO one blames their parents for not removing them from such an environment?  Plus, is everyone here still so damaged that bashing the school is considered "support"? If you disagree with the school, DO THE RESEARCH, GET IT REGULATED, and BE SUPPORTIVE of one another.  Talking a lot of shit does not seem like the path to resolution.  I think some of you are not on here for support, you just like to be angry-- maybe you should change the forum "aim" to just "talking shit about MMS and the people involved-- we don't want to DO anything, we just want to TALK about it."
-Not an MMS supporter, just one who can't stand some of the false pretenses you advertise on this site.

Anonymous:
whats funny is antigen isn't young and brainless.  she is supposedly an educated adult with a family.  funny how someone can be so heartless to another mother and father for their loss when she has a family of her own.  i hope that antigen experiences the same compassion she is showing to mike and deb when she has loss occur in her family

Anonymous:
As i recall, we weren't allowed to talk to our parents until we ceased to be 'manipulative' which really just meant we didn't say anything bad about the school.  I have issues with my parents regarding some pretty big things but those things at MMS that were extremely negative and cruel were not done to me by my parents and they had no way of knowing what was going on and the impact it was having on me.  I would think that if I had met John or Mike warning signs would have flashed in my head given their aggressive natures and for that I wonder just where my mom's head was at.  Granted I think my mom can pretty much be counted out, at that time, as being anywhere near balanced and able to decided what was best for me- she hadn't prior to MMS, why would MMS be any different?  
Reality is that she had no idea, but she did see me during home visit and after I left and realized something was indeed very wrong.  The way I handled things in the outside world, terrified of doing something wrong yet not knowing exactly what was right was the worst thing ever.  At best, on could say simply that MMS didn't help at all- but I would be lying, my MMS experience was far from nuetral.  I really believe MMS was an extremely poor choice for me and it's scary how easily that can happen.
Several times at MMS I contemplated suicide, at one point actually slitting my wrist (not deep), but then stopped short. I went to MMS voluntarily and really did want help.  I also wanted my parents love more deeply than anythign else.  I chose to live but was miserable. It was help that I did not receive.

I understand MMS can't be all things to all kids, but for someone like me and the other girls it can be an extremely sad and traumatizing thing, leaving a lasting imprint that taints thier lives.  It's to those girls that MMS does a great diservice and, given we had, and girls like us, had/have no way of getting their voices heard (w/out being called maniipulative) is unjust. Given that many of us really wanted help and love we submitted to the berating and the dictatorial way in which 'therapy' was carried out with the underlying fear of hard labor just beneath the surface at all times, but in an atmosphere where you don't feel right, therapy and personal growth is damn impossible.  So for you girls that say the 'therapy' worked, I guess I see why it might if you didn't feel the same level of terror and fear that your parents wouldn't love you if you didn't follow along with everything the school said, despite those nagging internal contraditions.  Maybe, given those conditions, it would have been that MMS would have been great for us. who knows?

I will forver stand by what I've said about Mike and John, I think both men are awful with kids and should not, under any circumstances, be working with kids.  Well, maybe if they got the proper training and credentials to know what the hell they're doing, but even, given my experience, i would be skeptical.  Maybe  they're better with adults or in an atmosphere outside of MMS, I don't know and that doesn't really matter to me.  Well it does, insofar as John Mercer is trying to influence policy through  by claiming NATSAP ehtical standards is sufficient(as if self regulation is enough), but that's another issue all together.
 Sure, both have John and Mike have good qualities one can speak of and I did- I don't know if I should say this- I did love them or at least so desperately feared them and wanted their apporval that I felt like I loved them, I'm leaning more towards the latter.  Either way, for about 2 yrs they were my only guide and, it was like the blind leading the blind, really. Or maybe the blind being yelled at and being led by the blind- lol They determined everything- god knows Gary was such a pushover, as I'm sure any clinical director they hire will be b/c we all know John likes to call the shots and be the man with the plan.  John is the god and MMS was created in his own image, metaphorically speaking. He truely has the biggest ego than anyone I have ever has the displeasure of meeting.  I thought Mike wasn't as crafty and smart, so he just came across like a jerk in my eyes.  Maybe that was only b/c John wouldn't let him determine the plan of action...

maridell@yahoo.com:
As a credentialed psychotherapist and teacher,this line of attack about John and Deb is really appalling, not because you have no right to air your views, but
because you aren't dealing with current issues.  You prefer to bash two broken people who most likely beat themselves up about their son's death far more than any of you kids can imagine.
Why don't you talk about yourselves in the present and support each other on current traumas and triumphs and take your painful memories to a professional who can help you gain understanding, stability and compassion about past wrongs from parents, teachers and others.  Or else, be productive and go to your Montana authorities and the press with serious, well-planned attack on an institution you believe needs supervision.  Otherwise, this sounds like a bunch of immature whining...........

Anonymous:
I can whine if I want. I can bitch if I want. Just like you feel like you can come and tell us that we need professional help. If you don't like to listen to it, why oh why do you come here? And just in case you havent read, we are planning to do something about it. Thank you very much for the free therapy session. Now that you mention it, I think I will be able to let go of everything now...HAHA.
Clown!

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