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Thank you!  Your response was exactly what I was looking for.  It is amazing, you guys are like my little puppets.  I pull a string and you dance the dance I want.  I was having a blast before I realized how disrespectful I have been.  I am truly sorry for taking advantage of you, for taunting you with truth and love.  I know that you cant take it but I gave it to you anyway.  I am a bad boy.  

I feel bad that I have acted underhandedly.  Dealing with you guys is like dealing with a small child (like taking candy from a baby).  I felt like I had to coax you to reveal your true nature because you are so used to lying and hiding behind forums that you have forgotten exactly how scared and feeble your really are.

When I wrote that piece on Abundant Life Academy I knew that no matter what I say you are going to hate me and the things I stand for.  I was hoping that your responses would descredit you, and they did.  So, I had to bait you into a trap and you fell for it.  It is kind of funny, and kind of sad at the same time.  It is so funny how you can be so easily teased into showing your true hatred, and sad because you have to live with yourself every day.  I can go away and never have to deal with you again, but you still have to deal with yourself everyday.

I feel bad because I have been having so much fun playing and toying with you at your expense.  The power I have over you, to get you to dance around like fools is almost intoxicating.  I am ashamed at my behavior.  Last week I had no idea that I was going to upset so many people and have fun doing it.  

However, I have discovered that it is not a good thing to play around with people who are so damaged.  For that I now feel bad.  It was cruel to tease people who cant help themselves, and who are crying out for support.  I should have been there to help you through your childhood traumas and fears.  I am ashamed at my lack of compassion for you.  Your like the dirty dog that has mange, who has been discarded by the world, and beaten up by all those who pass bye.  I was one more person who passed you by and kicked you.

I am going back to work now and I want to say that I am sorry for playing with you like a toy, only to discard you when I was finished with you.  I know that deep down you are good people, only a little messed up. You will grow out of it someday, hopefully soon.

Again, I want to coach you before I go.  I want you to know that you descredited yourself and your cause through the Fornits posts.  I want to be able to send prospective parents of ALA to your site to show them how their child will turn out if they dont get them help now.  You guys would scare any parent into sending their child to a lock down program out of fear of turning out like you.

Today I had a parent tell me that they are now convinced that they need to send their child to a program because of what they have read on the Fornits site.  You guys scare them.  It is just the outcome I was looking for.  I dont need to discredit you, you do a perfect job of it yourself.  So, now I feel good that I can leave you all to yourself and you can continue to discredit yourself without me.  I would just get in the way.

As a matter of fact, we almost lost this prospective student today because the parent thought our program was to easy.  After reading your material they were seriously considering a stronger locked down program.  

I would bet that you guys are sending more kids to the WWASP type programs then any other organization I know.  You are more effect then the marketing group of TEEN HELP.  All I would have to say to a parent is, "do you want your child to turn out like one of those people that post on Fornit's?"  

As a matter of fact, for you conspiracy buffs... I would not be suprised to find out that Ginger and the rest of you are really relatives of the WWASP ownership.  You are their best marketing tool.  It would not suprise me to find out that you were being paid by some of the more unscrupulous Teen Help type of programs to act as their poster child.  I wonder how much that pays?  I bet you guys are really profiteers on the backs of children and only pretend to be against WWASP and other programs like it.

Well anyway, I wish you all the best.  I will not be seeing you anymore (unless it is to visit you behind bars).  My short visit is up.  However, I will be talking to Ginger in the near future.  By the way, does your local CPS agency know about your pot use in your home?  I happen to know that you homeschool your children.  Do they know you smoke pot?  I think that would be classified as child endangerment and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Until the laws change honey you are in danger of losing your children if you continue to smoke pot in front of your children.  Or, do you hide it from them? What do you think?

I wish I could say that I will see you soon, but I cant! bye-bye Butcher.. :wave: . (you need to get a new act Bill)  and bye-bye  :wave: Turd of Wisdumb (Ginger, you need to get a new act too..)  Sorry to expose you guys as being the characters behind the masks :roll: .  You are probably asking, "how did he know?"  

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Hey... yes, I do have extra time on my hands this week.  Glory to God!  Those of us who produce in society do occasionally have a week or two off each year.  Just so happens that I have had a few days off.  Perhaps you guys dont understand, due to the fact that you dont have real jobs.  It must be wierd not having a job, having extra time to be on the Internet talking to folks on web forums.  I know that my time is short and soon I will have to be back to work so I will enjoy myself while I can.

To answer your questions.  One, I do not know of any case where Abundant Life Academy has hired an escort service.  Also, most of our students come to Abundant Life Academy on their own accord, by their own choice.  They may not be happy about it, but they chose Abundant Life Academy over other schools because we are not a lock down facility.  Almost 100% of our students are thankful that their parents found Abundant Life Academy and choose ALA over the "lockdown" type of program.

Our students are out and about in the community every day.  Our students participate in Mercy Ministries (feeding the poor and elderly, building homes for the homeless, teaching job skills to the jobless, etc), they work at regular jobs, they drive, and they can call their parents all the time, and visa versa. They are not given all this freedom all at once, but as they prove themselves able they are given more opportunities to strive for great heights then they have ever had.

We do scrutitize our students decisions, but instead of trying to control them we coach them.  We expect greatness from them so we must give them wings to fly.  We give our students tremendous freedom and liberty to strive for greater things.  We do have structure and discipline, but it is not imposed.  The students live communially, meaing everyone does their part.  Those who loaf or fail to pull their weight get challenged.  Our students hold one another accountable.

We do not have a locked down program.  If a student left we would call call their parents and the authorities, and we would make every effort to make sure they were safe. And, we would compell them to come back to the school in order to complete their commitment to themselves, to the other students, and to their families.

So, now you know why I did not answer your questions.  Had you known ANYTHING about Abundant Life Academy you would not have lumped our school into the same kettle as the other programs.  I hold the same feelings toward the WWASP type programs as you all do.  Instead of being nasty toward them, I have created an alternative program where kids are encouraged to strive for greatness and given the opportunity to do so.  

Also, Abundant Life Academy is a positive peer culture.  Meaning, it is not a staff driven program, it is a student driven program.  Our staff are not the focal point.  The students are the government and they have a great deal of influence on the day-to-day decisions of the school.  Our students are not held down, they are empowered to rise up and go for more.

Abundant Life Academy is a leadership program and we want our students to soar.  We want them to fly the coup and to go make a difference in the lives of others.  Abundant Life Academy IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE STUDENT'S FUTURE.  We teach our students that they dont need us to be  successful.  We are only short term life coaches helping them to come into their own.  We believe that an relationship with Jesus is the only answer and we teach that.  However, we also teach that it is not our job to make the relationship between the student and Jesus a reality.  It is up to the student.

Our program is short term (6 to 9) as opposed to the 15 to 18 months that is demanded from therapeutic program.  Additionally, we dont crame religion down the student's throat, we give them a chance to serve others in the spirit of Christianity and explore their Chrisitian heritage.

We also have students on scholarships.  We are not about profits and money.  We are about serving others, and empowering others to get out of themselves and start giving. We are about taking down walls that keep our students bound.  We are about freedom.

You all have no clue what Abundant Life Academy is all about.  You have no idea that our school is designed to fight against the WWASP type programs.  We are the positive alternative to the WWASP type of programs.  

One last thing... if you guys could get past your own wounds you would find that there are progressive schools out there that are doing a good job.  When Abundant Life Academy and other progressive alternative schools become successful we can put WWASP out of business.  If parents had an effective alternative to the WWASP type program, then WWASP would not be able to harm children.

There is a need for alternative progressive schools for kids that are struggling to make the transition from adolescences into adulthood.  They need encouragement, not punishment.  They need freedom, not imprisonment.  They need a dose of reality so that they can become empowered to fulfill their destiny.

Again, all you guys do is complain, bitch, and moan.  You make all kinds of nasty remarks about something you are not willing to do anything about.  I say, "role up your sleaves and get to work.  Create the alternative school to the WWASP type program.  Design the most ideal school to help struggling teens and then go make it a reality.  Get off your duffs.  Make your alternative school so successful that you put WWASP out of business.  Put your money where your mouth is and shut up.  DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM.  All your hate is drowning your message."  

Believe it or not I am just as disgusted as you are over the fact that so many parents are sending their kids to WWASP type programs.  But screaming about it on Fornit's forum is doing no one any good.  Actually, you are hurting your own cause.  People like Ginger and Deborah should get rid of the clowns who take up space on this forum and encourage progressive thinkers to join the cause.  Recruit people who want to make a positive difference.

Just Get real!

Wow!  Deborah... that was amazing.  I truly enjoyed that.  You do have some intelligence!  I knew that you did but you were not demonstrating it very well.   I think that I am beginning to tell when you are "high" and when you are not "high".  Staying sober does make a difference.  I am truly amazed and I stand corrected.  I honor you this evening with a big fat attaboy!  If you can stay in this vein I can converse with you, and respect you at the same time.

It matters... just trust me.  If you cant give me your name and the reason you ask, then I cant give you the answer.  Dont like the terms?  Then quit asking the question.  Pretty simple.

Before I answer any question I want to know who is asking the question.  I dont have a problem answering this question of yours.  It is an easy question, clean and simple.  But come out from behind your cloak.

From the archives of Ginger's own Forum...


Deborah, please stop misleading people, even if it is unintentional!
Posted: 2004-01-04 06:02:00  
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 Wow, are you people freaks!

The information is no good if it does not apply to Ginger's situation. In the Complaint, which I think Deborah, and all you other nuts DO NOT HAVE, Ginger is being sued on the following combination of causes:

Injunction, Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, Public Disclosure of Private Facts, Defamation (False Light) and Tortious Interference with Business Relationships.

Which part of the sites you people are reading like the Bible match this exact combination of Counts contained in the Complaint? Let me help you out, NONE! Also, Ginger, tossed in her two cents and took sides (usually siding with a nut), which those sites do not cover.

I'm not saying don't look at the sites (they may have some general information that some might find helpful), what I'm saying is the laws you think shield Ginger don't!

Learn to READ people, and stop living in FANTASYLAND.

There are no unregistered users on this forum except the administrators of the forum.  As you can see, the person who added this little diggy was someone from the inside of Fornits, breaking their own rules.  As you can see there is no way to view their profile or to send them a personal private message.

Dear Ginger et al,

I was going to contact my attorney tomorrow and ask him to review the Fornit's Web Forums, especially the area that pretains to me, and Abundant Life Academy.  I was hoping that with some research there would be others who have been hurt by Fornits.  That way if there are others who have sued you due to the fact that you allow good people and businesses to be slandered and businesses to be hurt by your forums.  

Now I have found this particular forum very interesting.  I can easily find out who Sue's attorneys are, and I can have my attorney contact them.  I thought that you were responsible for this injustice.  I did not know how you could let this go on without some kind of retribution or consequence befall you.  You can save yourself a whole lot of hassle by taking the posts and replies about Craig Rogers  and Abundant Life Academy off the Fornits site.  

I have had several people call me about these postings.  If anyone is turned away from Abundant Life Academy because of this I will make sure that my attorney looks into this more seriously.  Right now we are just researching our options.  However, you can make this much easier on yourself by removing the slanderous statements and the personal attacks against myself and Abundant Life Academy.

My attorney happens to be a partial owner of another academy similar to Abundant Life Academy.  I found references to his school on this forum.  I dont think I would have a problem getting him to work on this case.  I believe in freedom of speech, but I also believe in the laws that protect me from slanderous defamation.  

Please consider my offer.