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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / desparate
« on: May 31, 2003, 03:03:00 PM »
You misunderstand completely
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On 2003-05-31 10:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Going through a problem does not make one an expert. It makes one experienced with that particular problem in that individual case.

Giving advice is helpful, but billing oneself as an "expert" when one has only one's own personal experience or the experiences of those around them, rather than experience plus multiple degrees in the field of adolescent treatment or psychology, is being frighteningly similar to the program.

To think of oneself as an expert, is having the same mentality as the program when you say to yourself that you only want "to help" so you make yourself sound more credible and more important by alleging to have all the answers, and assistance when really, you don't.

You have your own personal experience to share.

It makes you experienced, willing to help, and concerned with others, but it doesn't make you an expert by any stretch of the imagination.

Lose sight of this and you could become the very thing you are fighting against.


"That is *expert advice from an expert on mothering and battling with drug addiction. I'm not claiming to do anything except share my experience, and give advice based on that."

*MEANING: I have a lot of experience.

It's obvious why I used sarcasm there. If you don't know why or can't tell why, you yourself need to lighten up a bit. It's an exaggerated figure of speech.

I'm also an expert butt wiper.
Does this make me self centered as well?

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / desparate
« on: May 30, 2003, 11:46:00 AM »
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On 2003-05-30 08:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

"This site sure has a lot of experts on how to treat addiction. You should start your own facility(because from this site I see you seem to have the answer.) :???: I wonder how much of the talk here about Pathway is a proven fact (and not from someone who was in the program and did'nt complete it.)"


That is expert advice from an expert on mothering and battling with drug addiction. I'm not claiming to do anything except share my experience, and give advice based on that.
I've been there. He won't hate you for trying to protect him, but he might not forgive & forget being "put away" when other choices could have been made. Pathway is the easy way out for the parents, at the expense of the degradation of children.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / desparate
« on: May 30, 2003, 09:47:00 AM »
Just because he's a teen doesn't mean he's not still YOUR responsability.

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On 2003-05-29 18:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ginger, maybe you should stick to the things you know about and not give advise to someone who really needs help. You are telling this mother to just let it run its course?
God, grant this mother the wisdom to talk with someone who knows what they are talking about.

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I don't think that was what was being stated with those remarks. She was simply explaining what she knows about heroin addiction. I personally doubt this kid has a "habit." He can't have the money to support it, it's expensive. Junkies need a daily fix or they get very, very sick. A very good point was that it is impossable for a child to have multiple addictions. It is. If the kid isn't an addict, why send him to treatment? (Because they want your money, that's why) If he is a junkie at 16, Mo's advice is the plan that works in the real world. Without long term forced treatment. If he has to go thruogh withdrawl, he should do that under medical supervision. Pathway does not have the qualifications. You want to save his life, not buy him time right?

By sending a kid to Pathway you're just $buying$ time for him. The average stay is 2 years. If a mother feels it necessary to 'incarcerate to cure' her child I'm sure there will be someone there to willingly take her money. It won't change the fact that when he's 18, he can go get it for himself anyway if he so chooses. Pathway is no cure. Pathway won't treat an addiction, they will try to change the personality of the child with behavior modification, thought reform and coersive methods. The long term success rate is very low. Most kids get out and within a years time, want to go try every drug they hadn't tried (or were forced to confess using) before Pathway. If knowing your child is important to you, Pathway is the wrong thing to do for him. If control is all you want, you may destroy him. There sounds to me like he has to have more problems than just using drugs. This mother needs to find herself a good doctor/psychiatrist, and spend the time needed to help her child.

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Straight, Inc. and Derivatives / For ex-clients: What type of abuse goes on at Pathway?
« on: May 29, 2003, 12:55:00 PM »
Physical - pushing, holding down, restraint, spitting...

Verbal - yelling, cussing, insulting, threats, name calling...

Emotional - solitary confinement, sleep deprivation, food deprivation, sexual insulting, antagonizing, insulting...

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Does anyone have any info on Sun Hawk Academy?
« on: May 28, 2003, 08:38:00 PM »
There was a man wanting to know about it a few months ago who's daughter had been placed by his ex-wife. I never heard from him again. I've always been curious about the outcome of the case.
The lack of control parents have of their own children once they are enrolled in these programs is just frightening.

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