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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: WHAT IS A RAP, ANYWAY?
« on: December 26, 2009, 06:09:42 PM »
Absolutely.

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Pop

You are right on to a point. Had the kid gotten that earlier in life, he wouldnt have had the need for a program to get his life back in order. I agree, get him out of there, get him with a parent that truly loves him and get him right. If he accepts his parents willingness to help its a huge first step.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Mount Bachelor Academy Shut Down
« on: December 26, 2009, 11:03:08 AM »
Until either of you actually sit through one of the sessions and go through the programs, I suggest you stop basing your points on conjecture and other peoples opinions.

Yes I did go through the program at Hilltop in 1987-1989. I can safely attest that had I not gone through this program, I would surely be dead by now. That is something that is not taught in the program or perpetrated through rumor or conjecture, rather it is fact.

Additionally, if you consider what these programs are doing as child abuse, then I really would wonder what your definition is of child abuse.

Additionally, teens and young adults are brighter and more intelligent today than they were 20 years ago. With more access to information they should be. But that doesnt mean they have the right to do whatever it is that they please.

I raise my kids to know the difference between right and wrong. To respect others and themselves as well. Many of the people that are in these programs or were in these programs have no respect for themselves, authority, their parents, or even the law. How might you suggest we deal with those types? A hug? A pat on teh back and say its ok promise you wont do it again?

For every program that is out there that violates the commons laws in place that govern these institutions, there are programs out there and people running them with the very best of intentions. To make blanket statements like this is child abuse or that I condone child abuse is flat out insane.

So yes, I would fall into category "B" as someone who completed the program. Dont regret it for a minute and will defend the people that helped me to the grave.


I suggest rather than being judgemental and base your information on uninformed sources, try attending a rap or a propheet and see what really happens. You might just learn something. Otherwise, dont EVER suggest anyone condones child abuse. If you wanna bring a comment like that to me, I am sure I would love to meet and discuss it with you personally.

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Haircut? Damn, I thought the gal at Sport Clips did a good job. Hmmm, guess I need a refund. :waaaa:

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Your forum is worthless pile of shit
« on: December 25, 2009, 03:03:26 PM »
Troll? Nah dont like 'em.  :feedtrolls:

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: WHAT IS A RAP, ANYWAY?
« on: December 25, 2009, 03:02:13 PM »
My name is Jeff from Chicago and you are?

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Mount Bachelor Academy Shut Down
« on: December 25, 2009, 03:01:18 PM »
Again "guest" share with us why you feel the need to be anonymous

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: WHAT IS A RAP, ANYWAY?
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:49:28 PM »
Again "Guest" too afraid to share your name?

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"Guest" huh? What, too afraid to post your name?

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Son of Serbia

I am sure Guy Bonanno would love to meet you in a dark alley. Does the words broken in two mean anything to you?

Sounds like another "Im a whiney teen that cant his way," kid again.

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CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones / Re: WHAT IS A RAP, ANYWAY?
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:34:15 PM »
Dish -

When were you at CEDU/Hilltop? You sound familiar?

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Re: Your forum is worthless pile of shit
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:26:09 PM »
Nah, just a website of whiney kids that want the world to kiss their collective asses. Dont worry, the peopel who run degrading sites like this with arguments based solely on opinion instead of fact will not be aroudn long. Take a look at Cafety. the site has already been taken down once.

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Aspen Education Group / Re: Mount Bachelor Academy Shut Down
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:23:00 PM »
Is the MBA program being shut down because of abuse or because of a few disgruntled spoiled a$$ brats that were for once in their lives told NO?

I find it humorous that this school is being shut down and very little facts haev been presented anywhere except for some "shall remain nameless" shrink who thinks he knows whats best.

This school will re-open and the people behind trying to slam the program and the people runnign it better call their lawyers.

The only disgrace here is a program that is doing things to help straighten out a few troubled kids is suffering based on the words of a few that are clearly unsubstantiated.

Oh and by the way, "Bans" are put in place because kids with the inability to behave and do what they are told cant handle rules and regulations. See, these are the same kids we read about as they head off to jail for committing violent crimes.

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