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Hyde Schools / WARNING! This website presents distorted perspectives of ob
« on: September 07, 2006, 09:45:50 PM »
Are you thinkin' that maybe Joe Gauld is really Mary Kay? Come on, have you seen his foundation and mascara  up close?

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Hyde Schools / Character First: The Hyde School Way and Why It Works
« on: September 07, 2006, 09:43:57 PM »
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
This one gives a good insight into the mentality that is likely to come out of Hyde.  I'm assuming he's considered a "success".  He responded to someone's complaints about Hyde.



..... Stop ur bitching. Nothing makes someone worse unless that person just had it coming for them, so aparently you were fucked up enough to go to the school, and seeing for the fact you got kicked out doesnt say much on your half either..... No one "learns" to smoke pot at a boarding school. People learn to smoke pot because they have nothing better to do with themselves so think before you speak girl.


Bonney,
  This post disappoints me. You say you want to be civil and adult and discuss the issues and that you would like to seriously know more about Hyde. But then you flagrantly disparage Hyde for no apparent reason by saying "this is the mentality that is likely to come out of Hyde". How can you inspire confidence in someone to take the time and enrergy to explain Hyde when your open-mindedness and willingness to listen/learn is suspect? Sorry, but that's what I'm seeing here...

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Hyde Schools / Character First: The Hyde School Way and Why It Works
« on: August 23, 2006, 03:37:03 PM »
Quote from: ""tommyfromhyde1""
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
The more I read and hear about this guy, the more he seems like Miller Newton.


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Ditto that. The more I read about Mr. Newton and his personality, the more I think about Joe Gauld. The main difference between Hyde and Straight, Inc. is that Hyde doesn't try to prevent anyone from escaping. Instead, they urge your parents to throw you out on the street if you don't buy into the Hyde cult. Sort of like what the WWASP people call an "exit plan".


Parents are often enablers and usually the root cause of a childs problems. If a parent takes a child back home with open arms, then often both fall back into the patterns that caused the problems in the first place. We're creatures of habit. Sometimes you need to break the patterns to move forward and facilitate true change. A choice between the discomfort of Hyde and the feared unknown of "the street" often makes the choice easier for a kid... Neither is a pleasant choice, but one can provide you with an environment to change problem behavior.

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Hyde Schools / Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 23, 2006, 02:32:12 PM »
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""MisfitParent""

Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.


You seem to have appointed yourself spokesperson, so I was asking.  What, can't answer the question?  If you've got so much faith in Hyde and what they do for kids, what's the problem with asking some questions about how it works?

Where did I lash out at anyone?


In no way did I appoint myself spokesperson, but rather I posted an observation and commentary about Hyde and some posters on this website. I'm not in a postion to answer many of these questions, so therefore they need to be addressed elsewhere. I'm not going to spend my time doing your legwork for you. If you want to know, ask someone at Hyde School.  Your initial response to my post is as follows:
 Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior? I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here. Kids (or grown adults now) are angry. They've got a right to be. Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it. But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts. What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Sounds like a lash to me. I can understand why people would ask you to go away. You probably get comments like that wherever you slither. I'd prefer not to address you anymore, as you're pretty much a waste of time and energy. Thanks for understanding.

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Hyde Schools / Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 23, 2006, 02:22:23 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I ask you again Misfit, what about all the students who start Hyde and drop out?  I can answer that for you.  More students drop out than stay at Hyde and guess what?  Every single one of those parents lose thousands and thousands of dollars while Joe Gauld's pockets get bigger and bigger.  When he stands up there on his throne talking about how he doesn't get rich off of Hyde and he isn't in it for the money, he is full of it!!  The guy is very wealthy and the empire they are building is off of false promises to families.

Oh and by the way, if indeed you do have anything to do with this school which I doubt, you would know that those happy faces up there at graduation is because we couldn't wait to get out of that hell hole!!  Believe it or not we were told to kiss Joe Gauld upon getting our diploma.  He likes to put on a good show for the parents.

I've seen it over and over again on this website about Hyde being a Cult.  There is no doubt that it does fall under that definition.


As I understand it, Hyde is a non-profit organization run by a Board of Trustees. No money, other than a salary, goes into anyone's pocket there. Did you graduate from Hyde? Funny, I talked to several at length after the ceremony, and they all seemed to be very proud, pleased and grateful of their experience. Not sure that everyone kissed Joe Gauld, and I recall one rather brushed him off. Oh well. Did he try to slip you some tongue when he kissed you? If you look up the definition of cult, I find it hard to see where Hyde would fit within it. It's easy to name-call and that seems to happen a lot here as well.

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Hyde Schools / Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 22, 2006, 02:45:56 PM »
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
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Not sure what you mean by "you people" Bonney and not sure I was going after any "easy targets". I didn't say anyone was misguided or angry, I said that in the case of a few negative people, their anger seemed perhaps misguided. Please don't put words in my mouth and twist my post to sound as if I am attacking anyone (as you seem to). I think anonymous might be giving you some good advice...

These two posts look like personal attacks to me.  Questioning someone else's maturity level, dismissing anything negative about Hyde  as "rhetoric" or said out of a "lack of maturity", telling me to "just go away".  


Quote from: ""MisfitParent""
Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.


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Anne... you know nothing, and it's clear from your writing. You never even went to this school, but yet you "know" all about it. Salient questions and concerns should NEVER be addressed in this forum, as they are only distorted and attacked by your type, who have nothing better to do with their lives. As was said before, why don't you just go away...


So, how does Hyde bring about these miraculous changes in their "students"?  What's the process?  How does the "character based education" that's advertised at Hyde work?


Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.

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Hyde Schools / Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:48:21 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""MisfitParent""
Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Misfitparent, you are entitled to your own opinion, but the consensus seems to be that Hyde has harmed an awful lot of families.  Yes, they might have helped some families, but your figures are far off.  Did you go to school at Hyde?  Where do you get your info from?  Instead of attacking Anne, maybe you ought to go preach your gospel somewhere else because it is clear you don't know what you are talking about.  Give us some proof that Hyde graduated 60 students and that the families are grateful.  Look at the alumni list and you will see there ain't too many "grateful" families!!  At the same time you are giving us those stats why don't you also give us the stats on the kids who start Hyde and never finish.

Guest, Consensus of whom? The consensus of the people I know seems to be that Hyde offers a challenging and rewarding experience. I don't see how my comments are an attack leveled at Anne, and I don't see where you get off telling me to go somewhere else for noting the number of graduates this year (66 on the program), who spoke well of their experience at their graduation. I might ask you to re-read my comment about misguided anger, as you seem to be supporting it.

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Hyde Schools / Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:39:01 PM »
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Quote from: ""MisfitParent""
Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.


Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior?  I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here.  Kids (or grown adults now) are angry.  They've got a right to be.  Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it.  But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts.  What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?


Not sure what you mean by "you people" Bonney and not sure I was going after any "easy targets". I didn't say anyone was misguided or angry, I said that in the case of a few negative people, their anger seemed perhaps misguided. Please don't put words in my mouth and twist my post to sound as if I am attacking anyone (as you seem to). I think anonymous might be giving you some good advice...

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Hyde Schools / Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 22, 2006, 12:33:16 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""MisfitParent""
Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

That's great that 60 kids graduated.  I wish them well and hope Hyde was a valuable experience.

I have several questions:  Is that a total of 60 for Woodstock and Bath?  How many kids started at Hyde and left before graduation?  What percentage does this 60 represent?  Of the kids who left before graduating, why did they leave?  I think that will give a more complete picture of who succeeds at Hyde and who doesn't.  I'd like to know what Hyde's attrition rate is like and I'd like feedback about what doesn't work at Hyde.  Isn't that important too?  My impression is that Hyde has an unusually high attrition rate.


That number was for Bath. Don't know about Woodstock, but I think it was somewhere in the mid-40s. You could probably get that info from Hyde in Woodstock. I can't speak to the attrition numbers or your impression of them, but I believe the ones who graduated would speak to their own experience in a positive way. That was the point of my post.

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Hyde Schools / Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« on: August 17, 2006, 01:49:25 PM »
Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

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