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Quote from: ""Wandering Waygookin""
What is the importance of the information?


also forgive my ignorance on this matter, but what is a lein?


Technical term: "A lien is a form of security interest granted over an item of property to secure the payment of a debt or performance of some other obligation."

In English,  it basically means that HLA was not paying its bills.  The companies who were owed money likely involved the courts, who placed the liens against HLA.  So if HLA were to, say, try and sell their property, they would not be able to do it if any of the liens were not satisfied.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 24, 2007, 04:03:35 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I think we understand that the case is not dismissed just that the Judge dismissed the motion to allow class certification for the plantiffs. Well, what we also understand is that now the plantiffs will have to file individual suits if they proceed against HLA. How many parents can afford to move forward with individual suits after paying $100,000 or more to HLA? Helloooooo, we are not dumb, just realistic. To some people, the Judge dismissing the motion to certify the class action suit is the end of the road of suing HLA.


That is partly true.  The plaintiffs named in the case originally may continue with the case.  It appears that they are going to settle, but they have the right at any time to say that they want to continue to trial.  Denying the motion to certify the class just means that they may not add any more plaintiffs who were not originally named in the complaint.  So any other families who have the desire and money to sue HLA will have to file their own individual lawsuits.

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Quote from: ""Guest""
i'm sure he's a fair judge for a southern judge. sure, he may be a bit conservative, but look at some of his past decsisions, i think he's pretty fair. He allowed a plaintiff to proceed anonymously when he was trying to get the 10 commandments taken out of the courthouse. the judge ruled in his favor, and even recieved death threats from the locals for his ruling.

keep in mind that it's dismissed without prejudice. maybe there was a good legal reason for dismissal, like lack of concrete evidence (due to the fire?), the whole fornits contraversy (i'm sure the judge browsed this forum a few times, and i'm sure he was turned off by most posters). Len putting the spin on saying it's just a bunch of troubled teens and their vindictive parents suing, therefore it's not credible, definitely factored into the judges decision.


Please see the lawsuit thread.  The case has NOT been dismissed.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 24, 2007, 03:35:07 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
The Lumpkin County Office of Clerk of Superior Court

Edward E. Tucker, Clerk of Superior Court

99 Courthouse Hill, Ste. D

Ph. 706-864-3736, Fax: 706-864-5298



I just called, they said there are 23 cases involving HLA (most are HLA going after parents for garnishments).  If you have the case number OR the Plaintiff information they'll tell you whether or not the case has been dismissed.  


Public information is a wonderful thing, folks.


The case is not being heard in that court.  It is being heard in the U.S. District Court.  Please see my post above.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 24, 2007, 03:33:20 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
i think what this means is the judge knows len is in the wrong, but he doesnt want to try the case because of a conflict of interest, or recognition of personal bias, or whatever. the plaintiffs can just make an appeal, take it to another judge and get a real ruling.

i bet what happened was Len told the judge "i screwed up, let me settle this out of court, you dismiss it, i throw something your way, and in the meantime i bring the school up to standard. by the time the plaintiffs get their appeal HLA will be a new place and their case will be completely unfounded"


You people are really dense, aren't you?

THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN DISMISSED.  What part of that sentence do you not understand?

"Judge William O'Kelley has recently issued an Order dismissing without prejudice the plaintiffs' motion for class certification."

First of all, Buccellato is using the word "dismissed" improperly, probably because he figures that the parents will assume the same thing all of you did, which is that the entire case was dismissed.  Motions are DENIED, not dismissed.  Here is the EXACT wording that is used in the court filing: "ORDER denying without prejudice [37] Motion to Certify Class."

The judge denied the MOTION, that is all.  I'm sure plenty of you watch Law & Order or other courtroom dramas on TV where they file motions for this and that.  In real life, motions are filed all the time and they are either accepted or denied by the judge.  Just because a motion is denied DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE CASE IS DISMISSED.

Call the court and ask yourselves.  Lumpkin County is served by the Gainesville division office of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.  The phone number is (678) 450-2760.  The case number is 2006CV00146.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 24, 2007, 02:27:47 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
If the case was not dismissed, than why has all the information about the petition against Hidden Lake Academy been removed from the Berger Montague site. The information about this petition for a lawsuit and the complaint have always been on the Berger Montague site and all of it has now been removed. Explain tha one.


For Christ's sake.  Maybe they are not handling the case anymore.  Maybe they are doing maintenance on their website.  There are several reasons why the information is not on their website anymore.

Call the courthouse if you do not believe me.  THE COURT CASE IS STILL PENDING AND HAS NOT BEEN DISMISSED.  I cannot make it any more clear than that.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 22, 2007, 04:32:18 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""dee""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Thanks, good info, So thats the end of that until someone decides to get the ball rolling again, start over, bring the people together and file a new suit.  This could go on for years!
Who is paying for all of this on the plantifs side?

And the other question is who is paying for it on the defendant's side.  Two different law firms, Quirk and Quirk, and King and Spaulding, have already dropped Dr. Deadbeat due to non-payment of fees, which now mount into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Get in line, boys.

The banks prolly already opened up a line of credit/equity for payment to creditors since the suit has been tossed out.  Enrollment has bottomed out and has started to inch upwards (end of the summer is when kids start acting up again, parents are out of ideas since family time didnt work).  Edcons are free to refer so life is starting to get good again for the old HLA crowd.

Still time to start up a summer Bar B Q, get a fresh delivery from J&J foods pull everyone off restriction (after they pick up all the geese crap) and start living it up.

Lets see what happens, Aspen is prolly pissed.  They were hopeing to pick the place up for a SONG and send more kids thru SUWS while they bring HLA up to apsen standards, perfect spot for them.
Sorry thewho your people will have to look elsewhere, you would have been dragged out and killed in the woods anyway so count your blessings.


Please read carefully: the lawsuit has NOT been thrown out.  It is still open and pending.  The only thing that was "thrown out" was the motion to certify the lawsuit as a class action.  The plaintiffs can continue by asking for a trial or settling.  It appears that they are choosing the 2nd option.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / about the lawsuit
« on: August 22, 2007, 03:08:06 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
The class has not been thrown out. You are mis-informed.


Exact text from the court filings:

"Plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] has been pending since December 29, 2006. The court has not ignored the motion. On two occasions, the court has granted the parties’ request to defer ruling on it. The most recent request came on June 25, 2007, at which time the parties informed the court that they had reached a settlement agreement and would be jointly moving to certify a settlement class.

"Plaintiffs’ original motion to certify has been sitting idle on the court’s docket for over half a year, and, inasmuch as the parties will soon be submitting a joint motion to certify a settlement class, the court sees no reason to leave the old motion where it sits.  Accordingly, plaintiffs’ motion for class certification [37-1] is hereby DENIED without prejudice. As the court made clear during its June 25, 2007 telephone conference, the parties may submit their joint motion for the court’s consideration when it is prepared."

The motion to certify the case as a class action was dismissed without prejudice because the parties involved will reportedly be agreeing on a settlement soon.

For those of you unfamiliar with the law, when something is dismissed without prejudice, it means the following: "to dismiss the present action, but leave open the possibility of another suit on the same claim."

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Aspen Education Group / Please
« on: March 27, 2007, 10:30:22 AM »
Hey everyone,

I'd really appreciate some feedback about this place.  My research has indicated that they have been sued a few times within the past few years, all for negligence (one kid died, another kid was sent there by one parent in violation of a court orderstating that the other parent had custody).  I am sure that there are people on this board who knew those kids.

Anyone, please, let me know your good or bad experiences with this program.

Thanks!

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Aspen Education Group / Lone Star Expeditions
« on: March 20, 2007, 11:29:58 AM »
Hello,

I'm looking for information on Lone Star Expeditions located in Groveton, TX.  I tried doing a search on this site but nothing came up.

If any one went to the program, please post or contact me via PM about your experiences.

Thanks!

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Another update...
« on: February 21, 2007, 08:54:21 AM »
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5657.shtml


Change Academy At Lake Of The Ozarks
Lake Ozark, MO

CALO Announces The Opening Of Their Co-Ed Program

Ken Huey, Ph.D., CEO
573-746-6331
[email protected]

February 15, 2007

CALO (Change Academy at Lake of the Ozarks) announces the opening of their co-ed program for youth ages 13 to 17. Appropriate teenagers will be admitted into the program starting March 5th, 2007. CALO is headed by Dr. Ken Huey. Ken started his career in residential treatment with Provo Canyon School as a front line therapist. He later became Provo Canyon's Director of Business Development before moving on to West Ridge Academy. At West Ridge Ken was the Director of Clinical Services before starting CALO.

Nicole Fuglsang, MA, is CALO's Admissions Director and can be contacted directly at (573) 746-1884 with any questions about referrals. Nicole worked at Hidden Lake Academy and Ridge Creek for over 7 years. She finished her tenure at Hidden Lake and Ridge Creek as the Admissions Director.

CALO is a specialized program dealing with only three types of presenting issues: disorders of attachment, trauma, and affect regulation. Other issues that are secondary to one of these core issues may be appropriate at CALO but only in the course of treating one of CALO's three core specialties. For example, a youth with a primary drug and alcohol dependence diagnosis would not be an appropriate referral. A drug and alcohol dependence that is secondary to a core issue of trauma, attachment, or emotional regulation concerns would be appropriate.

CALO improves the lives of troubled youth by harnessing the power of three central change agents: 1) Relationships, 2) Transferable Attachment, and 3) Experiential successes.

Relationships are the lynchpin to the change process. Family relationships and parenting are directly coached. Staff relationships are utilized for their mentoring power. Therapeutic relationships are leveraged to create a desire for change in the lives of CALO students. Peer relationships are harnessed to create an atmosphere of positive peer pressure.

Transferable Attachment is CALO's name for what is learned through the care of and bonding with purebred dogs. Clinically appropriate youth in the program have an opportunity to "adopt" a dog in the beginning stages of the program. Myriad transferable lessons of self-discipline, healing, commitment, unconditional love, and genuine attachment are learned in the process.

Located on the shores of Lake of the Ozarks, youth are provided a number of aquatic therapeutic recreational activities. It is intended that CALO youth will struggle against water challenges and overcome them with the help of staff and family; learning lessons of trust, bonding, confidence, and self-reliance in the process. This is done through sailing, rowing, canoeing, power watersports, and other aquatic challenges.

CALO subscribes to safe, researched therapeutic practices and does not use holding or provoking interventions.


Just in case any of you want to give Nicole a call and ask her how maternity leave is going.  :)

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The Troubled Teen Industry / Wilderness therapy research
« on: February 20, 2007, 02:36:50 PM »
Hello,

I know this study is old and I'm sorry if it has already been posted elsewhere - I don't have time to do a search.

I am asking for opinions on this study - whether it was accurate, properly executed, etc.  I'm afraid that I'm a bit rusty when it comes to judging for myself.

http://www.wilderness.net/library/docum ... l_3-28.pdf

I would copy and paste the text, but there are a lot of tables and figures and I don't want anything to be lost in translation.

Thank you!

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Sorry...
« on: February 05, 2007, 04:06:12 PM »
I forgot to mention that the court filing was Dr. Buccellato's affidavit in response to the plaintiffs' request for two months to conduct discovery regarding the class certification.

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The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy / Interesting...
« on: February 05, 2007, 04:04:43 PM »
Quotes taken directly from a court filing on February 2:

"I am more than eighteen (18) years of age, under no legal disability, and I make this affidavit based upon my personal knowledge.

"As mentioned in more detail in my declaration of December 6, 2006, Hidden Lake Academy ("HLA") has suffered a sharp decrease in enrollment, primarily due to the decrease in referrals from educational consultants.

"My understanding of this decrease in referrals is that the educational consultants fear legal action against them, which fear arises from the allegations in plaintiffs' complaint implicating educational consultants.

"As set forth in more detail in my declaration of December 6, 2006, HLA has suffered significant loss of revenue due to decreased enrollment.  Enrollment has dropped from over 150 students in September to 102 as of this date.  Since September 1, 2006, 42 of the 120 employees of HLA have been terminated due to decreased revenues.

"Despite reductions in the number of staff and reductions in the salaries of those who remained employed by HLA, HLA's revenue is insufficient to cover its expenses (mortgage, payroll, utilities, etc.) each month.

"Due to the dire financial situation faced by HLA, further reductions in the number of staff employed by HLA or closure of the school is imminent.

"It is important to note that this situation affects not only the employees of the school, but also the 102 students currently enrolled at HLA who have completed approximately two-thirds of their academic year.  Further staff reductions will result in a decreased quality of service to those students.

"Even more troublesome is the imminent threat of closure of HLA, which I reasonably believe will have devastating effects on the currently enrolled students, whose mental health will be jeopardized by such instability.

"HLA cannot afford a continued delay in the prosecution of this litigation and will not likely survive the two months that plaintiffs' counsel has requested to conduct discovery prior to a decision on class certification."

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PURE Bullshit and CAICA / Article
« on: January 29, 2007, 08:01:17 AM »
I'm sorry if this was already posted somewhere else...I haven't had time to really check all the threads.

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=26858

Poor Carey Bock.  Not only does she have to deal with the lawsuit, but to be so affected by Hurricane Katrina.

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