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Offline A friend in FL

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« on: November 11, 2002, 12:35:00 AM »
Hi everyone, A couple of weeks ago I was going through my dusty closet and found an old black sachel. It was full of my Moral Inventories from 1974-75.  I began reading through them and found them very disturbing. What I found that most disturbing was that the "parroting" I did in the raps extended into my own journaling.  It is true that our inventories were read by our Oldcomers. However, I do not think that I was just "preaching to the choir".  I was beleiving the garbage. It is very sad when something that is so close to a diary in nature, is a collection of myths. I was unable to be true to myself.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2002, 12:32:00 AM »
Welcome to our site.  A good friend of mine called me the other night and was reading one of his moral inventories to me from day 265. It was full of committment and praise for the seed and for the self work and determination he needed to exhibit.

The problem? The Seed had left Cincinatti at about day 185. He was still a lost indoctrinated 14 year old, but alas, his cult had packed up and left him to his own devices with just a few other local Cinci seedlings.   The seed's impact on us was greater than  people imagine.

I hated Moral inventories. Many of mine, from sheer exhaustion, would start off fine but soon trail off in a snake line line as I feel asleep while trying to write. I knew my father and step mother were reading them and that it was a window into my private mind, so I fought to just throw seed lingo and garbage down. Of course, at certain times, when the tug of the cult was strong, I believed and wrote down my innermost thoughts for others to see.

Even my mind was stolen for that period of time in my life.

Welcome again. Do I know you???
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2002, 05:27:00 AM »
Hi Greg, My experience at the Seed was in Ft. Lauderdale in '74.  My name is Cheryl.
While I'm online I'd like to thank you for playing an especially important role on this site. I find, as I am sure many others do, your input as a sorce of encouragement-Frieda's as well. Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2002, 11:49:00 AM »
Thanks, Cheryl. Moderating this forum has been a great experience for me. Ginger had been bugging me for about a year to do it, and one day I asked her to add the seed discussion forum to fornits. I didn't know what to expect. One of the hinderences to the growth of the board has been how hard it is to find it. If you type "the seed" into a browser, you get 1/2 million or so links to Seed distributors and other links. The only real way to find it is to type "art barker the seed".

That being said, I am very happy about the direction this site has taken. Us ex- seedlings tend to be a little older and a little less bitter than the straight survivors, but part of that is, in addition to our advancing age,  our experience was slightly different  (but less so than some imagine).

Tell us a little about your experience in that Hot, bug infested, kooky  compound down on SR 84. I am particularly interested in stories about Art & Co.

I visited there twice, once while in the seed and the other time shortly after graduating. My sister and I showed up in our Seed t-shirts all ready for a hero's welcome, and what we got was interrogated, a quick introduction to the group, and a bum's shuffle out the door. It was a little bewildering at the time, but in retrospect, expected behavior for the paranoid nut cases in charge.

The place  was essentially similar to St Petersburg with the exception of more Art Barker. We had the "Art Barker lite" version of the program as he only showed up once or twice a week to lead a rap or inspect the place.

Anyway, it's nappy time...tell us a story!
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2002, 01:38:00 PM »
I've still got a notebook full of them.  None of it makes any sense.  It's just jargon.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2002, 01:39:00 PM »
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On 2002-11-14 10:38:00, kosmonaut wrote:I've still got a notebook full of them.  None of it makes any sense.  It's just jargon.  



Wait, sorry folks, I usually post in the Straight forum.  Anyway, I didn't know the M.I. thing came from the Seed!
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2002, 08:43:00 PM »
Hi again, Part of the problem of getting old is that the memories fade.  Re: Art & co., I remember very little.  I remember singing "Art Barker, father of the Seed, he's my best friend..." with tears streaming down my face. I was soo hooked!

I remember one Open Meeting vividly. Art addressed the group with a question. "How many of you are atheists?" I recall being the only one who raised my hand.  He was trying to make a case that we all beleived in God.  I blew his case.  Fortunately, it was only within a year that I was able to see how God had, and was, working in my life.
 -Unfortunately, three of my dearest friends were banished from the program for sharing (unobtrusively) their new found faith. Christianity had become a threat. Why? I can only speculate.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2002, 11:55:00 PM »
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On 2002-11-14 10:39:00, kosmonaut wrote:
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On 2002-11-14 10:38:00, kosmonaut wrote:I've still got a notebook full of them.  None of it makes any sense.  It's just jargon.  



Wait, sorry folks, I usually post in the Straight forum.  Anyway, I didn't know the M.I. thing came from the Seed!



No problem dude. The fact is, and sorry to break it to you, the whole freaken thing came from the seed, right down to placement of the chairs.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2002, 11:58:00 PM »
Art really never was religious. The whole "they believe in Themselves, god, cand country" was just sound bites for the public. Art was leading a massive media campaign at the time, but the theme of atheism was rampant in the place. It was decidely irreligious, with group taking the place of religion. Remember this line when reciting the steps?

"God to me is the group...."

remember?
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2003, 09:31:00 PM »
I had an oldcomer named Cheryl once.  I think it was around the time we went to the Orange Bowl to sing.  If this was you, I was actually relieved to be in a home that seemed pretty "normal".  This Cheryl was from Chicago or Ohio I think.  And her brother was in the Seed too.  They lived with their dad and he had a cleaning company.  We used to stay up all night playing cards  - hearts I remember.

Those MIs were the pits.  I wonder what happened to all of mine.
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