Cedu ruined good music

[Anonymous]

... meaning naming names!  Little "d" gets all riled up, believe me, when his name gets tossed around.

[Son Of Serbia]

On 2005-05-31 19:23:00, Anonymous wrote:

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 It's one thing to share your experiences, and quite another to bash innocent people for no apparent reason other than pure spite and ignorance.   "

People have been telling YOU this for months now, and you really should try following their advice for once.  But I guess you just prefer being a dickless antisocial loser. By the way,   Who do you think you're putting on? Your posts are nothing but spite and ignorance, and you've never shared your experiences here.

You're going to convince everyone that we're all bully drug fiend liars? Please. Your credibility is shit, that's why you keep coming back here with a different story about who you are.
Your cowardice knows no bounds.  Why do you refuse to get a username?  Why won't you take responsibility for your own words? Why are you so ashamed to say who you are? Why, Why, Why?

I think Dniceo hit the nail on the head with his description of you.  Whether or not the name is right, he captured the essence of exactly who you are.  A snot nosed, angry little punk, you developed a bully complex from constantly having the shit knocked out of you because of your vulgar mouth and bitchy attitude.  You're just screaming for attention aren't you? You obviously learned to get it by being a cowering prick to everyone.

Maybe Cedu really did save your life.  A loud mouth little bitch like you would've been severly maimed or even killed at any normal highschool, so I can see why you're grateful to BCA for giving you that NON-VIOLENCE Agreement to hide behind for 2 years.

But the truth is that Emotional Growth Programs(like the FORMER CEDU "Schools") are SHIT.  Schools like CEDU grossly overcharge their clients (parents). The academics at these "schools" are substandard. The so-called "therapy" is misdirected & usually abusive. Ultimately the specific needs of each individual stundent are overlooked and neglected. In the end most kids leave these "Schools" with more questions & problems than they came in with.  EMOTIONAL GROWTH SCHOOLS are NOT worth the money, pure and simple.

Now you and your fellow converts can disagree with me on this point all you want.  You can attack me, label me, lie about me,threaten me, and go on and on about how sick & twisted you perceive me to be.

But the one undeniable truth that all parents should know is this:

The most qualified person to raise, teach, and help your children is YOU. Ultimately, the key to leading our children down the right path is RESPONSIBLE AND INVOLVED PARENTING, that's it...And no so-called school, program, or professional can ever substitute for this, no matter how great they claim to be.  

To Parents: no one loves your children more or cares more for their well-being than you do.  And no one will guide your children better than you. You ARE the most qualified person for the job, hands down.  The solution to helping our "problem children" won't be found in Abandoning them to EMOTIONAL GROWTH CON-ARTISTS. Don't push your children away, instead bring them closer to you. Embrace them, hold them tight, stay with them, make your kids know that you'll never give up on them, and that you're not going anywhere.  Anyone can avoid the problem by sending their kid away to one of these hell holes, but it won't fix anything.  Don't avoid the problem.  Be A Parent, and work through it with your kid together.  No one said it would be easy.  But it's worth it, your child will be better off because of your direct involvement and sacrifices, and they will thank you for it later.


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[ This Message was edited by: Son Of Serbia on 2005-06-01 08:05 ]

[If u want to know..then a]

I absolutely agree with you Son of Serbia.  Although CEDU did not pose much of a threat to me once I graduated, I in turn, took parenting to a new level with my son!  Regardless of what the so called parent poster on here says, there is more to parenting that just throwing your child into a school because YOU are stuck as a parent.  My mom had no choice because I was court ordered, but please believe that my son will have a new possibility as he continues to grow.  Maybe this Anon poster is pissed off because they choose to back up a school that did not support their child and their child no longer speaks to them.  To the Anon poster: No one really cares about what you believe because you continue to reflect yourself as a third person and someone who is not worthy of having any respect for their opinions and beliefs because you are not actually standing for what you truly believe. You are cowerding behind your harsh words. You are trying to be the "bully" and blame others for your actions.  For a "parent" to do this, is uncalled for.  Yes, parents make mistakes, but how the real good ones recover is by taking accountability for what they did in their life and move on.  Not sit and type in a forum and completely contridict themselves.  You talk about others being on this thing in the middle of the day when they really should be doing something with their life.  We can say the same for you, seeing as how one of your postings was at 12 something in the afternoon.  That is just one example.  I will kindly ask you to raise up off my ass for a minute and take a good look in your mirror.  Before you sit on a computer to preach, why don't take a stand for your OWN life and get your kids to respect or to follow a GOOD example and strive to be something out of life.  Either that or you can continue to teach them to get on the internet to try to verbally knock down others :exclaim:  The choice is ALWAYS yours!  But anyway, Son of Serbia, you made some really good points!   :tup: [ This Message was edited by: If u want to know..then ask on 2005-06-01 08:49 ]

[Anonymous]

These last two posts by "Rodney K. of Serbia" and "If you want to fuck...then ask": what a pathetic pair these losers make

Don't waste any more oxygen on my account you little perverts---I'll be around to counter your bullying, lies and nonsense---and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

[Son Of Serbia]

On 2005-06-01 20:43:00, Anonymous wrote:


 :cry2: Don't waste any more oxygen on my account you little perverts---I'll be around to counter your bullying, lies and nonsense---and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it." :cry2:

Like I said : You're Just Screaming for Attention!!! :lol:   :lol:  :lol:

[Anonymous]

Good boy, a nice, succinct, short response.  

You could do without the unnecessary capitalization (break-through anger again or just attention-seeking as usual---who knows?) but on this post at least I give you a much improved grade of B-.

[shanlea]

You said you would be around to handle all the lies and bullying by the anti Cedu contigency, but you won't give any solid reasons in support of CEDU.

The fact is that it was an overpriced group home that employed histrionics and trenchant verbal and emotional abuse and coersion as therapeutic tools.  They also effectively isolated us from the real world, replacing it with cult like mindset, lingo, and "experentials" created to bind you to the group.

In addition, no one received individualized help in this one size fits all environment, so kids with real issues still had to deal with them afterward, only they were compounded by CEDU's warped program influence.  

Also, the fact remains that many of our experiences pre-CEDU were grossly misrepresented by the school with the explicit purpose of keeping us there.  In fact, many people confess to being coerced to admit to things they never even did after heavy bombardment by CEDU staff and bullies. (Even former staff members concede to this.)

Additionally, I find it telling that you paint all anti CEDU people with the wide paint brush of being druggies and losers.  Well, that is simply wrong.  There are successful parents, people, employers, and employees among this group.  I am a good mother and grad student and I don't do any drugs at all (and I only say this to rebut your druggy claim--because let's face it, one person's pot is another person's prozac).

If you are here to stand up to all the anti CEDU bullies, don't do it by becoming a bully yourself.  Do it with solid support of the CEDU program.

[If u want to know..then a]

"If you want to fuck-then ask"?  This is what has become of you?  Pretty successful there buddy!  Have a good day, why don't you go get a job or something?

[Anonymous]

To this Shanlee girl: damn right I won't give you explanations of ANYTHING, probably shouldn't even be giving your whiney post a response.  

Honey---you ARE a drug fiend, only in the hanger-on category, it's obvious. Statement like "One person's pot is another person's prozac" is tired stoner apologist rhetoric... easy to see why you needed a therapeutic school...sorry it didn't work

And to "If u want to fuck..." (maybe you know someone who does...I don't like skanks myself): Rodney the Serb sounds about your speed, you can both wallow in self-pity, blame your highschool for your life and get high.. while claiming what fabulous parents you've turn out to be

[If u want to know..then a]

that is is obvious you have NO clue how to read.  Son of Serbia and myself along with many others, do not blame CEDU for things that are happening right now!  PLEASE, before you start typing and make an ass of yourself, read things more thoroughly.  Then make your conclusion.

[shanlea]

Obviously this anon is a waste of breath.  I just listed the obvious ways that CEDU is incompetent. This anon apparently feels that anyone who calls CEDU an abusive group home is a druggy, slut, loser, and/or whiner. Well, I'm none of the above, and I can certainly vouch for the integrity of some others on this site.

This anon still can't list any pro-program benefits.  In any event, it is obvious that if there were any, anon did NOT benefit from them.

By the way, is your mother Ottawa?

[Anonymous]

The loser-chicks are way funnier than the boys though.

Just keep up the comedy, drug bimbos---and I'll keep on laughing--it's obvious in a variety of ways you think your programs damaged your lives--so don't turn around now and try to suggest that isn't what you've been saying all along.  Fucking stupid deranged hypocrits.

So I'll just keep laughing---and tearing you a new one every time you hassle people who post here to disagree with your dogmatic negative irrational drug infested crap.

[shanlea]

Losers of the world? That would be YOU, Anon.  I don't gripe about how CEDU ruined my life. I have two beautiful children, a great relationship with my parents, a graduate degree.  I don't take any drugs, even recreationally, and frankly, I don't drink enough.  (Unless you consider 2-6 glasses of wine a month alcoholism.) But I certainly think these schools should be shut down based on the itemized list I already offered.

So far, your main tactic appears to be to label women sluts, everyone else losers and whiners, while being unable to name a single item to support the ethics of this school. How do you think this tactic works for parents perusing this site? (And they do.)

You are really doing our work for us, so thank you.

By the way, you never answered if you are S.O.O: Son of Ottawa.

[Anonymous]

Guess how much I care about your "itemized list"?  Guess what my opinion is on your claim that you're not a drug fiend (all prior comments to the contrary)? Imagine what I think about your interest in my "secret identity"?

Right on, let's let the parents who come here decide who'se full of shit and who isn't, Personally I'm pretty confident of what the outcome will be

[shanlea]

Keep talking, Anon. You are really doing some good work on our behalf. You are now blatantly lying that I must be a drug fiend and a slut, simply because I believe CEDU is an unethical, unqualified group home. I can tell you were really entrenched in the program because CEDU also treated women as sluts and drug fiends even if they were nuns popping Tylenol. Way to go, stud. Keep making my case!