I am not a graduate of any program... it took me 15 months to muake it to the 3rd level... but when i read your replies i find myself wondering what has happened to you that was so horrible that CSA is like a death sentence to you... no i was not knocking on deaths door but my fear is of turning out like my father... the drunk that often times fogets when hes supposed to come visit me... and with drinking at that age that is where i was heading...
Not necessarily. Occasional/social drinking, even during the teen years, does not mean you're going to become an alcoholic. Most people drink when they are young-- and most of them don't become dependent on alcohol.
no CSA did NOT save my life it was my mother for taking the chance of having me hate her forever and interveining into my life realizing that i could not stop on my own...
That's the same as saying that the program saved you... you are saying that your stay in the program, initiated by your mother, saved you. Why are you so convinced you were going to die? Why are you convinced you would not have become one of those 99.9% who grow up and move on? You weren't given the chance to move on... you were locked up. It's impossible to know what would have happened had you been allowed to stay in the real world and learn from your mistakes and choices.
my mom was one of that 99.9% of those people that matured and moved on... but it took her 10 years and i am much happier waking up not worried whether or not i was going to live to see the next day...
Again-- why are you convinced you were on the verge of dying? You said you were having sex and drinking alcohol. These behaviors are NOT life threatening (unless you are drinking enough to cause alcohol poisoning, which takes a very large amount of alcohol and which is very unlikely). You were NOT at a risk of dying, despite what you've been told.
i have found more confidence... you know i have come to the point where i will LITERALLY never step foot into the state of south carolina again...
If you have found so much confidence in yourself, why is iot that you won't go to SC ever again? CSA is highly abusive, like all other WWASP programs. That I know. But if you truly do believe that you were treated with notihng but respect and love (as you stated below), then what are you afraid of?
i think that i just needed someone to interupt me and my "patterns" for me to look at what i was doing and what i was putting on the line...
That sounds like program language to me. Especially the "interrupting the patterns" line.
i have wanted to be in the Air force for as long as i can remember but with my fear of south carolina that doesnt seem possible now... so i am angry because i am giving up my dream
Why would you have to give up your dreams? You're not at CSA anymore-- you don't have to give up anything you don't want to give up. The Air Force trains most of its people in TX, by the way.
but i do not regret it because... (you said i did not deserve to be treated like that) they treated me with respect and love i was only upset when i didnt get my way...
You said you were kept there fro 15 months, and only allowed to see your family once. There's nothing respectful or loving about keeping a child away from her family for so long. I know that children are not allowed to make phone calls till they reach level 3-- there's nothing loving or respectful about that either.
I don't blame anyone who gets upset under these conditions. You had every right to be upset. Seeing you family regularly is a fundamental right of children in treatment facilities. Your rights were being violated. You have every right to be upset about that.
yeah there was that one bad apple that no one liked but she was taken care of...the students there help me see that i am so much better then someones doormat... I was taught that i am just as beautiful as a butterfly...
I'm happy for you, then. But it is the way in which you were taught all this that I question. The methods used by the program-- prolonged separation from family, solitary confinement, seminars patterened after Lifespring seminars (Lifespring is a cult, by the way, and David Gilcrease, the man who designed the seminars for WWASP, used to be a Lifespring trainer), etc. Not to mention the rampant physical and emotional abuse of children in these facilities.
All these methods and practices are wrong, and should not be allowed.
so my point is we have our different opinions and you know why i have mine but why do you have yours...you can email me if you want... Butterflylir@yahoo.com... i am not defending the school but it worked for me... i know its not for everyone..."
I have developed my opinions about the program offered by WWASP after about two years of research. I've read personal testimonies of children from all of WWASP's facilities-- graduates and non-graduates, kids who believe they benefitted from the program and kids who said they were abused. I read statements from parents. I've researched the origins of the program-- how it came to be, who shaped and designed it. I've researched the people who lead WWASP, and their histories.
All my research led my to the conclusion that WWASP operates a highly abusive program based on cultic principles, and uses coercive persuasion to convince children and parents that they have benefitted and that their problems have been solved. it is my conclusion that WWASP is a highly abusive, dangerous program, which should be outlawed.
I'm glad you're not taking this as a personal attack, by the way-- many children who believe the program helped them become so identified with the program, they perceive any attack on it as an attack on them. And I'm glad you're doing wlel, and that you're happy. That's the most important thing.
