its tori

[Anonymous]

Hot dogs and cereal is "what we ate at home anyway." Tori, that is like your statement to KSL that what goes on at the Whitmore is like what goes on "in normal families."

MOST PEOPLE do not eat cereal and hot dogs day in and day out!  If that is the daily diet that your mother feeds her family--then you are are not from a NORMAL FAMILY.

If the behaviors that have been repeated on this forum are what went on in your family--then by far, you were not raised in a NORMAL FAMILY.

Hate to repeat, BUT:
Normal families do not pit kids against other kids. Normal mothers do not curse and spit on their children. Normal families have regular meals, nutritious diets, do not withhold food as punishment, and have regular sleeping routines.
Normal parents do not abuse their children. Normal families value REAL EDUCATION. Normal families do not read private mail, and listen in on telephone conversations, and respect privacy. Normal parents do not time their child's bath. Normal families have linens on their bed. Normal homes are not rat-infested. Normal fathers do not handcuff their children.
NO Whitmore is NOT like a normal family, Tori.

[Anonymous]

Or maybe when they graduate, they could come back and work at Whitmore just like you, huh?

[Anonymous]

Why don't you ask Cheryl about sneaking the kids into the all-inclusive Mexioc resort--how this could affect teenagers who are suppose to be developing a sense of honesty and integrity. Ask her why she did something so dishonest, and trashy--when these kids' parents pay thousands of dollars per month, and the Sudweeks could have well afforded to pay for at LEAST ONE NIGHT in a nice hotel for these kids.

Could you ask, and then come back and try to explain this devious, outrageous behavior of Cheryl and Mark Sudweeks?  Thanks.

[Gmom]

Well, Tori, let's figure it out.  4,000 times 40 equals 160,000 PER MONTH.  Multiply that times 12 and you have almost $2 million per year.  $4,000 per month can take care of a family of four or five very easily.  That includes proper food, proper sleeping conditions, plumbing that works, clothing, school supplies, eating out once in a while, and yes, even trips.  All that and more was part of the promised package.  Sorry, Tori, but I really don't think you have enough years under your belt, nor do I think you have any idea of what it costs to take care of children.  It is not up to you to answer for the Sudweeks.  That is THEIR responsiblily.  Contracts were made with them, not the kids at Whitmore.

I am at a complete loss as to why there is such an effort to make people feel sorry for the Sudweeks, as if they are doing things out of the kindness of their hearts.  They are paid enormous amounts of money for services they claim they provide.  They are not sacrificing anything.  THEY ARE BEING PAID FOR DOING A JOB.  There is only one problem, they are collecting money and really not doing the job.  So the people paying them are the ones getting screwed, NOT THE SUDWEEKS.

[Anonymous]

Tori, did you ask Mark if he is a PEEKER, or do you just assume that he is not one?  You know PEEKERS usually are rather sneeky people, and don't TELL OTHER PEOPLE: "Oh, by the way, I really do like peeking on little girls."

If Mark does this, not saying he does---he probably would lie like a bandit if asked about it.  So YOU don't really really know if Mark likes peeking or not, now do you, Tori?

You'd like to think he doesn't---but you have no way of really knowing what this man does. Everyone has their little secrets...and being a PEEKER could be Mark's.

So, you really can't speak for him.

[Gmom]

What is "seat time."  How much do they have to have?  Tori, do you have a high school diploma?
If so, where did you get it from?

[Anonymous]

Tori, out of the about $2 million a year the Suds a pulling down a year scamming parents and not even educating or adequately feeding the kids there---HOW MUCH ARE THE SUDS PAYING YOU?

You say you are a counselor, you seem to be their "spokesperson" PR representative...
Do you have any idea what that position in the real world would pay??

What do the Suds THINK YOU ARE WORTH?

Please don't tell me "they love you...and you are doing it for the kids."

[Anonymous]

wow...I figure that you all are convinced that the Sudweeks are guilty of everything you have heard and have never seen before- or if you think you have then you're perspective is different than others.
I think of all of you as doing what anyone would do if they thought kids were in danger. I know for a fact that no one has been hurt and no one is in danger. The food is healthy and good- I never said they ate hot dogs and cereal day in and day out because they dont eat like that. Road trips are of course junkier- thats part of the fun. Unless you all bring canned vegetables every trip you have ever been on...I don't know.
I know for a fact that Mark doesn't "Peek". I know it just like you know that you aren't that kind of person. It's the same kind of truth.
This "millions" of dollars...Let's see...a mansion, a house, a new ridge lodge for teens, a new arena, 26 HEALTHY WELL FED WELL TREATED horses, 36 mouths to feed three times a day, a couple hundred dollars a few times a week just to go to provo, even more to salt lake city, hotels, campsites, four-wheelers, taxes, a hangar, two airplanes, a very large family, a lot of donating...hmmmm sounds like a lot to me. Or maybe I am just too young to understand the world around me.
I received my credits from Santa Susana High School in California, Simi Valley High School in California, and Landmark High School in Spanish Fork Utah, and the last few credits needed I received from Brigham Young University courses for seniors in high school as well as Utah Electronic High School. I'm sorry my life isn't one straight line where I went to one school for four years and got a diploma that way.
There are a lot of spiteful people in this world. No longer are we in the battle of man, we are in the battle of the hearts of man.
I'm blessed that I am not blind physically or logically. I'm blessed that I am not crippled that I may not touch one more life for the better using my own two hands. (figure of speech)
I am just a peer counselor. I am definately no PR for anyone. I have no big fat degree or any college experience yet- I have a heart. I have feelings, and I have personal experience with the hardships of being abused in all areas, adopted, put on sick medications, thrown in and out of mental hospitals, caught up with addictions, mutilation, hurtful friends, and not wanting a direction in life- being ungrateful for the breath I do have. No longer do I walk that path. I am not just going to go home and be a drone with a car and a cell phone working in sales and getting married. Nothing against those people, they are nice and a lot of them family and friends. Yet that is not for me. I came back because I want to go one step farther than society. I want show anyone that with honest relationships and step-by-step goals, higher will, and faith, they can go anywhere and be anyone they want to be. Guess where I learned all of this? That's right...you're favorites...Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks.

[Gmom]

I'd bet the mansion is probably paid for, considered a business, tax write-off for expenses related to it, including the feeding of the occupants and the animals, etc.  Most grown children and their families support themselves.  Lots of people have large families, larger than the Sudweeks.  They only have two minor children.
Most "normal families" I know or know of don't own hangers and not one, but two airplanes.

 Funny, about the animals being well-fed.  Every single one I ever saw there, including cats and dogs, had their bones sticking out.  Sorry, Tori, some things have been observed, not just hearsay.  Another thing, do just some kids get three meals a day?  Why do you think the ones that didn't are saying they didn't?  Are they all making it up?  Are you saying spitting in someone's face or calling kids ugly names is what loving families do?  How about sheets that can't be used because they are Cheryl's "good sheets"?
Is there a reason kids just sleep in sleeping bags that are never washed.  Normal family?  Not anyone I know of.  Can't put toilet paper in the toilets?  Normal??  Not any I know of.  Endless meals of chicken cooked in a crockpot with water and bar-be-que sauce?? Spitting on other kid's food before giving it to them?  Sleeping in a closet or in a bathroom as punishment?  No, again.  Making boys wear girl's clothes for days?? Guess what?  No, again.

By the way, where did you get your diploma?  Or do you have one?  And which BYU did you take any kind of classes from?  I know the one in Utah has no affilation with Whitmore at all -- no classes on-line or otherwise.  And as far as I know, the only BYU is the one in Utah.  So how exactly did you pull this off?

[Anonymous]

Tori, Tori, Tori.
Of course you shouldn't want to go to college, secure an education, impart on a real career, aspire to greater things, when you can just embrace the cult you are in right now. What could be better? Blissful days and nights.
But how does all the terror fit into to all of this? The ravings of your mentor, as you watch children abused? OR is there some enjoyment in this that us mere mortals just do not comprehend?

You poor poor girl. Why doesn't your mother do something to get you help?

[Anonymous]

And just when have the Whitmore kids flown about in Markie Boy's TWO planes?

[Anonymous]

Is Cheryl Sudweeks a U.S. citizen or Canadian citizen?

[Anonymous]

Tori,
hear, hear....well said!
::troll::

[Anonymous]

to Gmom. I took Exploring Values and Drivers Ed. through BYU independent study. look it up smart one. And you never saw any animal with bones sticking out. I love animals and would shoot someone before letting them abuse any creature. Spitting in food? Gosh forbid! My little sister spit in my food when I visited her. She thought is was funny. I didnt, but I got over it. Bathroom and closet as punishment? HA! Just what would you do if you had to, by law, discipline a potential suicide and/or runaway? Or someone who hurts themselves and/or others? Bathroom? For how long? Oh please.  that is NOTHING compared to a tiny cubicle in a mental hospital for three days getting shots in the butt.
And chicken in a crock pot? Maybe every once in while on a sunday. God forbid we eat taco salad or enchiladas, and rice, and hamburgers, and caesar salads, and baking our own loaves of bread, and we go out for pizza and shakes sometimes...HOW ABUSIVE IS THAT! NOT!

[Anonymous]

Tori: What kind of a HOME LIFE do you come from?
Damn, now you say you have a little sister that spits in your food, and thinks it is funny? What the hell does your MOTHER do? This is crazy behavior in case you don't realize it. This is NOT how "normal families live!!!!"

And IF FOR ONE MINUTE you, Cheryl or ANYBODY believes that a potentially suicidal teenager is dealt with by locking them in a closet or bathroom....THEN ANY PARENT WHO HAS A KID AT WHITMORE, needs to get on a plane, or in a car and get thier kid the HELL OUT OF THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW!!!!

Wake up people.  YOU HAVE YOUR CHILD IN A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.  READ THIS SHIT!