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« on: April 27, 2005, 02:03:00 PM »
There have been so many people who have accused the Mormon church for much of the suffering in the teen industry.  Here is a measage from the president of the Mormon Church on child abuse.

"I am persuaded that violent fathers produce violent sons. I am satisfied that such punishment in most instances does more damage than good. Children don?t need beating. They need love and encouragement. They need fathers to whom they can look with respect rather than fear. Above all, they need example."


Save the Children

President Gordon B. Hinckley
First Counselor in the First Presidency



Gordon B. Hinckley, ?Save the Children,? Ensign, Nov. 1994, 52
My brethren and sisters, it becomes my responsibility to open this session in speaking to you.

I seek the direction of the Holy Spirit. I sense the tremendous responsibility of speaking to hundreds of thousands of Latter-day Saints, perhaps even millions, across the world.

I thank you for your gracious hospitality to us wherever we meet with you. It is truly a humbling experience to be the recipient of such generous kindness. You write letters of appreciation which bring encouragement. You are trying to live the gospel and rear your families in light and truth. You are truly Latter-day Saints, and I am profoundly grateful for the opportunity to be one with you and to partake of your fellowship and your love.

Sister Hinckley and I were recently involved in a regional conference in Rexburg, Idaho. We had not been to Yellowstone National Park for many years. We decided to drive to the conference and on Monday return home by way of Yellowstone.

In 1988, terrible forest fires raged there. Each day the news media brought us graphic reports of the intensity of the fires as they raced over thousands of acres, destroying millions of trees. The flames finally burned out, and people literally mourned over the desolate picture of countless lodgepole pines, their tops burned and the straight, scorched trunks standing like solemn grave markers in a crowded cemetery.

But when we visited there about a month ago, we saw something of captivating interest. The dead pines still stood, but between the burned trees new seedlings have sprung from the ground, millions of them.

Evidently when fire hit the treetops, the pinecones exploded, scattering seed to the ground. There is a new generation of trees now, young and beautiful and filled with promise. The old trees eventually will fall and the new ones will grow tall to create a forest of great beauty and usefulness.

As we drove through the park, I thought of the wonders of nature, of the rhythm of our lives. We grow old, and I am among those who have done so. Our vitality and our powers slacken. But a new generation is at our feet. These are children. These too are sons and daughters of God whose time has come to take their place on earth. They are like the new growth in the park?young, tender, sensitive, beautiful, and full of promise.

As Tagore, the poet of India, once observed, ?Every child comes with the message that God is not yet discouraged of man? (Charles L. Wallis, ed., The Treasure Chest, New York: Harper and Row, 1965, p. 49). Children are the promise of the future. They are the future itself. The tragedy is that so many are born to lives of sorrow, of hunger, of fear and trouble and want. Children become the victims, in so many, many cases, of man?s inhumanity to man. In recent months we have seen them on our television screens?the children of Somalia, their bodies bloated, their eyes staring with the stare of death. More recently we have seen them in Rwanda, the victims of raging cholera and vicious and unrelenting hunger. Uncounted numbers have died.

These were the promise of a new and better generation in these lands, where disease, malnutrition, bullets, and neglect have mowed them down like tender plants before the sharp blade of the sickle.

Why are men so vicious as to bring about the causes that lead to such terrible fratricidal conflict? Great, I believe, will be their tribulation in the Day of Judgment when they must stand before the Almighty accused of the suffering and destruction of these little ones. I am grateful for kind and generous people of many faiths and persuasions across the world whose hearts reach out in sympathy, many of whom give freely of their substance, their time, even their presence to help those in such terrible distress. I am grateful that we as a church have done much of significance, as President Monson pointed out last night, in sending medicines, food and clothing, and blankets for warmth and shelter to those who suffer so terribly, and particularly to children who otherwise most certainly would die.

Why should they suffer so much in so many places? Surely God, our Eternal Father, must weep when he sees the abuse that is heaped upon his little ones, for I am satisfied they hold a special place in his grand design. That place was confirmed when his Son, the Savior of the world, walked the dusty roads of Palestine.

?And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.

?But Jesus ? said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

?Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein? (Luke 18:15?17).

How great is our responsibility, how serious the responsibility of Christian people and men and women of goodwill everywhere to reach out to ease the plight of suffering children, to lift them from the rut of despair in which they walk.

Of course such suffering is not new. Plagues of disease have in centuries past swept across continents. War has caused the deaths of millions who were totally innocent. Children have been bartered and traded; they have been used as tools by vicious masters; they have mined coal for long hours day after day in the dark and cold depths of the earth; they have worked in sweatshops and been exploited like cheap merchandise.

Surely after all of the history we have read, after all of the suffering of which we have been told, after all of the exploitation of which we are aware, we can do more than we are now doing to lift the blight that condemns millions of children to lives that know little of happiness, that are tragically brief, and that are filled with pain.

And we need not travel halfway across the earth to find weeping children. Countless numbers of them cry out in fear and loneliness from the evil consequences of moral transgression, neglect, and abuse. I speak plainly, perhaps indelicately. But I know of no other way to make clear a matter about which I feel so strongly.

One major problem is the now-common phenomenon of children bearing children, of children without fathers. Somehow there seems to be in the minds of many young men, and some not so young, the idea that there is no relationship between the begetting of a child and responsibility for its life thereafter. Every young man should realize that whenever a child is begotten outside the bonds of marriage, it has resulted from violation of a God-given commandment reaching at least as far back as Moses. Further, let it be known clearly and understood without question that responsibility inevitably follows, and that this responsibility will continue throughout life. Though the mores of our contemporary society may have crumbled to a point where sexual transgression is glossed over or is regarded as acceptable, there will someday be accountability before the God of heaven for all that we do in violation of his commandments. I believe further that a sense of accountability must at some time bear upon every man who has fathered a child and then abandoned responsibility for its care. He must sometimes stop and wonder whatever became of the child he fathered, of the boy or girl who is flesh of his flesh and soul of his soul.

The burdens that fall upon a young woman who alone must rear her child are unbelievably heavy and consuming. They are likewise heavy upon society through taxes levied to meet the needs of such children and their mothers.

In the United States ?in the six years between 1985 and 1990, estimated public outlays related to teenage child-bearing totalled more than $120 billion. ?

?Of unmarried teens who give birth, 73 percent will be on welfare within four years [that is almost three out of every four].

?In 1991 federal and state expenditures for aid to families with dependent children ? totalled $20 billion plus administrative costs of $2.6 billion? (Starting Points: Meeting the Needs of Our Youngest Children, New York: Carnegie Corporation, April 1994, p. 21).

The obstacles facing children born and reared in such circumstances are formidable, to say the least.

The answer is straightforward. It lies in adherence to the principles of the gospel and the teaching of the Church. It lies in self-discipline.

Would that every youth might realize this and be governed accordingly. There would be so much less of heartache and heartbreak. Its importance cannot be overemphasized because the consequences are so serious and so everlasting.

I realize that notwithstanding all of the teaching that can be done, there will be those who will not heed and will go their willful way only to discover to their shock and dismay that they are to become parents, while they are scarcely older than children themselves.

Abortion is not the answer. This only compounds the problem. It is an evil and repulsive escape that will someday bring regret and remorse.

Marriage is the more honorable thing. This means facing up to responsibility. It means giving the child a name, with parents who together can nurture, protect, and love.

When marriage is not possible, experience has shown that adoption, difficult though this may be for the young mother, may afford a greater opportunity for the child to live a life of happiness. Wise and experienced professional counselors and prayerful bishops can assist in these circumstances.

Then there is the terrible, inexcusable, and evil phenomenon of physical and sexual abuse.

It is unnecessary. It is unjustified. It is indefensible.

In terms of physical abuse, I have never accepted the principle of ?spare the rod and spoil the child.? I will be forever grateful for a father who never laid a hand in anger upon his children. Somehow he had the wonderful talent to let them know what was expected of them and to give them encouragement in achieving it.

I am persuaded that violent fathers produce violent sons. I am satisfied that such punishment in most instances does more damage than good. Children don?t need beating. They need love and encouragement. They need fathers to whom they can look with respect rather than fear. Above all, they need example.

I recently read a biography of George H. Brimhall, who at one time served as president of Brigham Young University. Concerning him, someone said that he reared ?his boys with a rod, but it [was] a fishing rod? (Raymond Brimhall Holbrook and Esther Hamilton Holbrook, The Tall Pine Tree: The Life and Work of George H. Brimhall, n.p., 1988, p. 62). That says it all.

And then there is the terrible, vicious practice of sexual abuse. It is beyond understanding. It is an affront to the decency that ought to exist in every man and woman. It is a violation of that which is sacred and divine. It is destructive in the lives of children. It is reprehensible and worthy of the most severe condemnation.

Shame on any man or woman who would sexually abuse a child. In doing so, the abuser not only does the most serious kind of injury. He or she also stands condemned before the Lord.

It was the Master himself who said, ?But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea? (Matt. 18:6). How could he have spoken in stronger terms?

If there be any within the sound of my voice who may be guilty of such practice, I urge you with all of the capacity of which I am capable to stop it, to run from it, to get help, to plead with the Lord for forgiveness and make amends to those whom you have offended. God will not be mocked concerning the abuse of his little ones.

When the resurrected Lord appeared on this hemisphere and taught the people, the record states that as he spoke to them, ?he wept, ? and he took their little children, one by one, and blessed them, and prayed unto the Father for them.

?And when he had done this he wept again? (3 Ne. 17:21?22).

There is no more tender and beautiful picture in all of sacred writing than this simple language describing the love of the Savior for little children.

Of all the joys of life, none other equals that of happy parenthood. Of all the responsibilities with which we struggle, none other is so serious. To rear children in an atmosphere of love, security, and faith is the most rewarding of all challenges. The good result from such efforts becomes life?s most satisfying compensation.

President Joseph F. Smith said on one occasion: ?After all, to do well those things which God ordained to be the common lot of all man-kind, is the truest greatness. To be a successful father or a successful mother is greater than to be a successful general or a successful statesman. One is universal and eternal greatness, the other is ephemeral? (Gospel Doctrine, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1939, p. 285).

I am satisfied that no other experiences of life draw us nearer to heaven than those that exist between happy parents and happy children.

My plea?and I wish I were more eloquent in voicing it?is a plea to save the children. Too many of them walk with pain and fear, in loneliness and despair. Children need sunlight. They need happiness. They need love and nurture. They need kindness and refreshment and affection. Every home, regardless of the cost of the house, can provide an environment of love which will be an environment of salvation.

May I in conclusion read to you a letter that came the other day. It speaks of the kind of home I have in mind. The writer says:

?I thought I would write to you to let you know that life is good. I sit here looking out the window at the beautiful mountains. The apple tree in the backyard is full of almost-ripe fruit, two cooing doves that we have been feeding and watching all summer are eating at the bird feeder, and the weather has finally cooled down.

?My husband and I have been married for twenty-six years, have five wonderful children, two sons-in-law, and a peaceful, happy home. I marvel at the love of the Lord in our lives. It runs through our marriage and family like a thread. I have nothing to complain about, and most of my fasts are ?thankful? fasts.

?My husband is in the stake presidency, ? and I teach the Gospel Doctrine class. We have always worked in the Church, and always enjoyed it. We enjoy the gospel, and it is marvelous to watch our children growing up to do the same.

?And so, I just wanted you to know that there is much love, joy, contentment, fun, and gratitude in our life.?

Is that picture too good to be true? The writer does not think so. Is it too idealistic? I think not. I know nothing of the size of the house or the yard. That is immaterial. It is the spirit in that home, the extension of the love of a good man who holds the priesthood of God and a good woman whose heart is filled with true affection and gratitude, and of children born of a sound marriage who have been nurtured and reared in an environment of peace and faith and security.

You may not have a mountain to look at where you live. You may not have an apple tree in the backyard. You may not have birds that feed at your porch. But you can have one another as husband and wife, father and mother, and children who live together with love, respect, self-discipline?and prayer, if you please.

The old forest burns and dies. But there is a new one at its roots?one filled with wondrous potential. It is a thing beautiful to look upon, and destined to grow. It is the handiwork of God, a part of his divine plan.

Save the children. Too many suffer and weep. God bless us to be mindful of them, to lift them and guide them as they walk in dangerous paths, to pray for them, to bless them, to love them, to keep them secure until they can run with strength of their own, I pray in the name of him who loves them so very much, even the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?"
The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"
--Anonymous

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2005, 02:14:00 PM »
On this issue, I will judge less on what the church says; and more on what it does.

The Utah LDS have tremendous influence on state and federal policy. They can publicly lobby for HR 1738. They can enforce the laws they already have.

Lets wait and see if the words you quote actually mean anything.

They haven't, so far. Its been more than 10 years since those words were penned.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2005, 05:32:00 PM »
I really don't agree that the Mormon church supports institutionalized child abuse -even though some of the programs are owned by a few of the 10,000,000 members of the church.
Here's another by the church leader who will probably be the next president of the Mormon church - this was spoken to 10 million church members in 2002:

First Presidency Message
A Little Child Shall Lead Them
By President Thomas S. Monson
First Counselor in the First Presidency



Thomas S. Monson, ?A Little Child Shall Lead Them,? Ensign, June 2002, 3
During the Galilean ministry of our Lord and Savior, the disciples came unto Him, saying: ?Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

?And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

?And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

?Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

?And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

?But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea? (Matt. 18:1?6).

The Many Faces of Child Abuse
Some time ago, as I read the daily newspaper, my thoughts turned to this passage and the firm candor of the Savior?s declaration. In one column of the newspaper I read of a custody battle between the mother and father of a child. Accusations were made, threats hurled, and anger displayed as parents moved here and there on the international scene with the child spirited away from one continent to another.

A second story told of a 12-year-old lad who was beaten and set on fire because he refused a neighborhood bully?s order to take drugs.

Still a third report told of a father?s sexual molestation of his small child.

A physician once revealed to me the large number of abused children who are being brought to the emergency rooms of local hospitals in your city and mine. In many cases guilty parents provide fanciful accounts of the child falling from his high chair or stumbling over a toy and striking his head. Altogether too frequently it is discovered that the parent was the abuser and the innocent child the victim. Shame on the perpetrators of such vile deeds. God will hold such strictly accountable for their actions.

Children Are Precious to the Lord
When we realize just how precious children are, we will not find it difficult to follow the pattern of the Master in our association with them. Not long ago, a sweet scene took place at the Salt Lake Temple. Children, who had been ever so tenderly cared for by faithful workers in the temple nursery, were now leaving in the arms of their mothers and fathers. One child turned to the lovely women who had been so kind to the children and, with a wave of her arm, spoke the feelings of her heart as she exclaimed, ?Good night, angels.?

The poet described a child so recently with its Heavenly Father as ?a sweet new blossom of Humanity, fresh fallen from God?s own home to flower on earth.? 1

Who among us has not praised God and marveled at His powers when an infant is held in one?s arms? That tiny hand, so small yet so perfect, instantly becomes the topic of conversation. No one can resist placing his little finger in the clutching hand of an infant. A smile comes to the lips, a certain glow to the eyes, and one appreciates the tender feelings which prompted the poet to pen the lines:

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life?s Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar;
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home. 2

When the disciples of Jesus attempted to restrain the children from approaching Him, He declared:

?Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

?Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

?And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them? (Mark 10:14?16).

What a magnificent pattern for us to follow.

We Can Bless the Lives of Children
Several years ago my heart burned warmly within me when the First Presidency approved the allocation of a substantial sum from some special fast-offering contributions to join with those funds from Rotary International that polio vaccine might be provided and the children living in Kenya immunized against this vicious crippler and killer of children.

I thank God for the work of our doctors who leave for a time their own private practices and journey to distant lands to minister to children. Cleft palates and other deformities which would leave a child impaired physically and damaged psychologically are skillfully repaired. Despair yields to hope. Gratitude replaces grief. These children can now look in the mirror and marvel at a miracle in their own lives.

In a meeting, I once told of a dentist in my ward who each year visited the Philippine Islands to work his skills without compensation to provide corrective dentistry for children. Smiles were restored, spirits lifted, and futures enhanced. I did not know that the daughter of this dentist was in the congregation to which I was speaking. At the conclusion of my remarks, she came forward and, with a broad smile of proper pride, said, ?You have been speaking of my father. How I love him and what he is doing for children!?

In the faraway islands of the Pacific, hundreds who were near-blind now see because a missionary said to his physician brother-in-law, ?Leave your wealthy clientele and the comforts of your palatial home and come to these special children of God who need your skills and need them now.? The ophthalmologist responded without a backward glance. He has commented quietly that this visit was the best service he ever rendered and the peace which came to his heart the greatest blessing of his life.

Tears came easily to me when I read of a father who donated one of his own kidneys in the hope that his son might have a more abundant life. I have dropped to my knees at night and have added my prayer of faith in behalf of a mother in my community who journeyed to Chicago that she might provide part of her liver to her daughter in a delicate and potentially life-threatening surgery. She, who already had gone down into the valley of the shadow of death to bring forth this child into mortality, again put her hand in the hand of God and placed her own life in jeopardy for her child. Never a complaint, but ever a willing heart and a prayer of faith.

Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles once shared the pitiable plight of many orphan children in Romania?perhaps 30,000 in the city of Bucharest alone. He visited one such orphanage and arranged that the Church might provide vaccine, medical dressings, and other urgently needed supplies. Certain couples were identified and called to fill special missions to these children. I can think of no more Christlike service than to hold a motherless child in one?s arms or to take a fatherless boy by the hand.

We need not be called to missionary service, however, in order to bless the lives of children. Our opportunities are limitless. They are everywhere to be found?sometimes very close to home.

How Children Bless Our Lives
Several years ago I received a letter from a woman who had emerged from a long period of Church inactivity. She was ever so anxious for her husband, who as yet was not a member of the Church, to share the joy she felt.

She wrote of a trip which she, her husband, and their three sons made from the family home to Grandmother?s home in Idaho. While driving through Salt Lake City, they were attracted by the message which appeared on a billboard. The message invited them to visit Temple Square. Bob, the nonmember husband, made the suggestion that a visit would be pleasant. The family entered the visitors? center, and Father took two sons up a ramp that one called ?the ramp to heaven.? Mother and three-year-old Tyler were a bit behind the others, they having paused to appreciate the beautiful paintings which adorned the walls. As they walked toward the magnificent sculpture of Thorvaldsen?s Christus, tiny Tyler bolted from his mother and ran to the base of the Christus, while exclaiming, ?It?s Jesus! It?s Jesus!? As Mother attempted to restrain her son, Tyler looked back toward her and his father and said, ?Don?t worry. He likes children.?

After departing the center and again making their way along the freeway toward Grandmother?s, Dad asked Tyler what he liked best about their adventure on Temple Square. Tyler smiled up at him and said, ?Jesus.?

?How do you know that Jesus likes you, Tyler??

Tyler, with a most serious expression on his face, looked up at his father?s eyes and answered, ?Dad, didn?t you see His face?? Nothing else needed to be said.

As I read this account, I thought of the statement from the book of Isaiah, ?And a little child shall lead them? (Isa. 11:6).

The words of a Primary hymn express the feelings of a child?s heart:

Tell me the stories of Jesus I love to hear,
Things I would ask him to tell me if he were here.
Scenes by the wayside, tales of the sea,
Stories of Jesus, tell them to me.

Oh, let me hear how the children stood round his knee.
I shall imagine his blessings resting on me;
Words full of kindness, deeds full of grace,
All in the lovelight of Jesus? face. 3

Blessing the Nephite Children
I know of no more touching passage in scripture than the account of the Savior blessing the children, as recorded in 3 Nephi. The Master spoke movingly to the vast multitude of men, women, and children. Then, responding to their faith and the desire that He tarry longer, He invited them to bring to Him their lame, their blind, and their sick, that He might heal them. With joy they accepted His invitation. The record reveals that ?he did heal them every one? (3 Ne. 17:9). There followed His mighty prayer to His Father. The multitude bore record: ?The eye hath never seen, neither hath the ear heard, before, so great and marvelous things as we saw and heard Jesus speak unto the Father? (3 Ne. 17:16).

Concluding this magnificent event, Jesus ?wept, ? and he took their little children, one by one, and blessed them, and prayed unto the Father for them. ?

?And he spake unto the multitude, and said unto them: Behold your little ones.

?And as they looked to behold they cast their eyes towards heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven ? ; and they came down and encircled those little ones ? ; and the angels did minister unto them? (3 Ne. 17:21, 23?24).

Over and over in my mind I pondered the phrase, ?Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein? (Mark 10:15).
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2005, 05:34:00 PM »
Got to watch out for those zealots, they are dangerous people. All religions.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2005, 05:47:00 PM »
Church Growing in More than 160 Countries
?News of the Church,? Ensign, Jan. 2005, 76
In 2004, worldwide Church membership reached 12 million, the Church was ranked among the fastest-growing churches in the United States, and Mexico became the first nation outside of the U.S. to top one million members. Brazil is projected to surpass one million members during 2007.

Growth outside of the United States continues to surpass growth within the U.S. More than half of all Church members live outside the United States. Members of the Church are found in more than 160 countries and territories, speaking more than 178 languages.

The accompanying map shows membership distribution around the world.


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Countries with Highest Church Membership

  1. United States
 5,503,192
 
  2. Mexico*
 980,053
 
  3. Brazil
 866,988
 
  4. Chile
 530,739
 
  5. Philippines
 526,178
 
  6. Peru
 384,663
 
  7. Argentina
 330,349
 
  8. Guatemala
 192,207
 
  9. Canada
 166,442
 
10. Ecuador
 161,396
 
Based on 2003 year-end totals.
 
* Mexico surpassed the one million mark after these figures were compiled.
 

Countries with Highest Percentages of Church Membership*

  1. Tonga
 46.0
 (1 out of 2)
 
  2. Samoa
 34.0
 (1 out of 3)
 
  3. American Samoa
 19.1
 (1 out of 5)
 
  4. Kiribati
 10.0
 (1 out of 10)
 
  5. French Polynesia
 7.8
 (1 out of 13)
 
  6. Chile
 3.4
 (1 out of 30)
 
  7. Uruguay
 2.4
 (1 out of 42)
 
  8. New Zealand
 2.3
 (1 out of 43)
 
  9. Honduras
 1.6
 (1 out of 62)
 
10. Bolivia
 1.5
 (1 out of 64)
 
Based on 2003 year-end totals.
 
* Minimum 10,000 members. Four countries have higher percentages but fewer than 10,000 members: Niue (13.0), Marshall Islands (6.:cool:, Cook Islands (6.5), and Micronesia (3.2).
 

Languages Most Frequently Spoken by Church Members

  1. English
 5,828,000
 
  2. Spanish
 3,681,000
 
  3. Portuguese
 907,000
 
  4. Tagalog (Philippines)
 165,000
 
  5. Cebuano (Philippines)
 126,000
 
  6. Japanese
 117,000
 
  7. Ilokano (Philippines)
 109,000
 
  8. Samoan
 102,000
 
  9. Tongan
 76,000
 
10. Korean
 75,000
 
Estimates based on 2003 year-end data
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2005, 08:37:00 PM »
Richard G. Scott, ?Healing the Tragic Scars of Abuse,? Ensign, May 1992, 31

I speak from the depths of my heart to each one of you who have been scarred by the ugly sin of abuse, whether you are a member or nonmember of the Church. I would prefer a private setting to discuss this sensitive subject and ask that the Holy Spirit help us both that you may receive the relief of the Lord from the cruelty that has scarred your life.

Unless healed by the Lord, mental, physical, or sexual abuse can cause you serious, enduring consequences. As a victim you have experienced some of them. They include fear, depression, guilt, self-hatred, destruction of self-esteem, and alienation from normal human relationships. When aggravated by continued abuse, powerful emotions of rebellion, anger, and hatred are generated. These feelings often are focused against oneself, others, life itself, and even Heavenly Father. Frustrated efforts to fight back can degenerate into drug abuse, immorality, abandonment of home, and, tragically in extreme cases, suicide. Unless corrected, these feelings lead to despondent lives, discordant marriages, and even the transition from victim to abuser. One awful result is a deepening lack of trust in others which becomes a barrier to healing.

To be helped, you must understand some things about eternal law. Your abuse results from another?s unrighteous attack on your freedom. Since all of Father in Heaven?s children enjoy agency, there can be some who choose willfully to violate the commandments and harm you. Such acts temporarily restrict your freedom. In justice, and to compensate, the Lord has provided a way for you to overcome the destructive results of others? acts against your will. That relief comes by applying eternal truths with priesthood assistance.

Know that the wicked choice of others cannot completely destroy your agency unless you permit it. Their acts may cause pain, anguish, even physical harm, but they cannot destroy your eternal possibilities in this brief but crucial life on earth. You must understand that you are free to determine to overcome the harmful results of abuse. Your attitude can control the change for good in your life. It allows you to have the help the Lord intends you to receive. No one can take away your ultimate opportunities when you understand and live eternal law. The laws of your Heavenly Father and the atonement of the Lord have made it possible that you will not be robbed of the opportunities which come to the children of God.

You may feel threatened by one who is in a position of power or control over you. You may feel trapped and see no escape. Please believe that your Heavenly Father does not want you to be held captive by unrighteous influence, by threats of reprisal, or by fear of repercussion to the family member who abuses you. Trust that the Lord will lead you to a solution. Ask in faith, nothing doubting. (See James 1:6; Enos 1:15; Moro. 7:26; D&C 8:10; D&C 18:18.)

I solemnly testify that when another?s acts of violence, perversion, or incest hurt you terribly, against your will, you are not responsible and you must not feel guilty. You may be left scarred by abuse, but those scars need not be permanent. In the eternal plan, in the Lord?s timetable, those injuries can be made right as you do your part. Here is what you can do now.

Seek Help
If you are now or have in the past been abused, seek help now. Perhaps you distrust others and feel that there is no reliable help anywhere. Begin with your Eternal Father and his beloved Son, your Savior. Strive to comprehend their commandments and follow them. They will lead you to others who will strengthen and encourage you. There is available to you a priesthood leader, normally a bishop, at times a member of the stake presidency. They can build a bridge to greater understanding and healing. Joseph Smith taught: ?A man can do nothing for himself unless God direct him in the right way; and the Priesthood is for that purpose.? (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 364.)

Talk to your bishop in confidence. His calling allows him to act as an instrument of the Lord in your behalf. He can provide a doctrinal foundation to guide you to recovery. An understanding and application of eternal law will provide the healing you require. He has the right to be inspired of the Lord in your behalf. He can use the priesthood to bless you.

Your bishop can help you identify trustworthy friends to support you. He will help you regain self-confidence and self-esteem to begin the process of renewal. When abuse is extreme, he can help you identify appropriate protection and professional treatment consistent with the teachings of the Savior.

Principles of Healing
These are some of the principles of healing you will come to understand more fully:

Recognize that you are a beloved child of your Heavenly Father. He loves you perfectly and can help you as no earthly parent, spouse, or devoted friend can. His Son gave his life so that by faith in him and obedience to his teachings you can be made whole. He is the consummate healer.

Gain trust in the love and compassion of your elder brother, Jesus Christ, by pondering the scriptures. As with the Nephites, he tells you, ?I have compassion upon you; my bowels are filled with mercy. ? I see that your faith is sufficient that I should heal you.? (3 Ne. 17:7?8.)

Healing best begins with your sincere prayer asking your Father in Heaven for help. That use of your agency allows divine intervention. When you permit it, the love of the Savior will soften your heart, break the cycle of abuse that can transform a victim into an aggressor. Adversity, even when caused willfully by others? unrestrained appetite, can be a source of growth when viewed from the perspective of eternal principle. (See D&C 122:7.)

The victim must do all in his or her power to stop the abuse. Most often, the victim is innocent because of being disabled by fear or the power or authority of the offender. At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed. Otherwise the seeds of guilt will remain and sprout into bitter fruit. Yet no matter what degree of responsibility, from absolutely none to increasing consent, the healing power of the atonement of Jesus Christ can provide a complete cure. (See D&C 138:1?4.) Forgiveness can be obtained for all involved in abuse. (See A of F 1:3.) Then comes a restoration of self-respect, self-worth, and a renewal of life.

As a victim, do not waste effort in revenge or retribution against your aggressor. Focus on your responsibility to do what is in your power to correct. Leave the handling of the offender to civil and Church authorities. Whatever they do, eventually the guilty will face the Perfect Judge. Ultimately the unrepentant abuser will be punished by a just God. The purveyors of filth and harmful substances who knowingly incite others to acts of violence and depravation and those who promote a climate of permissiveness and corruption will be sentenced. Predators who victimize the innocent and justify their own corrupted life by enticing others to adopt their depraved ways will be held accountable. Of such the Master warned:

?But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.? (Matt. 18:6.)

Understand that healing can take considerable time. Recovery generally comes in steps. It is accelerated when gratitude is expressed to the Lord for every degree of improvement noted.

Forgiveness
During prolonged recovery from massive surgery, a patient anticipates complete healing in patience, trusting in others? care. He does not always understand the importance of the treatment prescribed, but his obedience speeds recovery. So it is with you struggling to heal the scars of abuse. Forgiveness, for example, can be hard to understand, even more difficult to give. Begin by withholding judgment. You don?t know what abusers may have suffered as victims when innocent. The way to repentance must be kept open for them. Leave the handling of aggressors to others. As you experience an easing of your own pain, full forgiveness will come more easily.

You cannot erase what has been done, but you can forgive. (see D&C 64:10.) Forgiveness heals terrible, tragic wounds, for it allows the love of God to purge your heart and mind of the poison of hate. It cleanses your consciousness of the desire for revenge. It makes place for the purifying, healing, restoring love of the Lord.

The Master counseled, ?Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you and persecute you.? (3 Ne. 12:44; italics added.)

Bitterness and hatred are harmful. They produce much that is destructive. They postpone the relief and healing you yearn for. Through rationalization and self-pity, they can transform a victim into an abuser. Let God be the judge?you cannot do it as well as he can.

To be counseled to just forget abuse is not helpful. You need to understand the principles which will bring healing. I repeat, most often that comes through an understanding priesthood leader who has inspiration and the power of the priesthood to bless you.

Caution
I caution you not to participate in two improper therapeutic practices that may cause you more harm than good. They are: Excessive probing into every minute detail of your past experiences, particularly when this involves penetrating dialogue in group discussion; and blaming the abuser for every difficulty in your life.

While some discovery is vital to the healing process, the almost morbid probing into details of past acts, long buried and mercifully forgotten, can be shattering. There is no need to pick at healing wounds to open them and cause them to fester. The Lord and his teachings can help you without destroying self-respect.

There is another danger. Detailed leading questions that probe your past may unwittingly trigger thoughts that are more imagination or fantasy than reality. They could lead to condemnation of another for acts that were not committed. While likely few in number, I know of cases where such therapy has caused great injustice to the innocent from unwittingly stimulated accusations that were later proven false. Memory, particularly adult memory of childhood experiences, is fallible. Remember, false accusation is also a sin.

Stated more simply, if someone intentionally poured a bucket of filth on your carpet, would you invite the neighbors to determine each ingredient that contributed to the ugly stain? Of course not. With the help of an expert, you would privately restore its cleanliness.

Likewise, the repair of damage inflicted by abuse should be done privately, confidentially, with a trusted priesthood leader and, where needed, the qualified professional he recommends. There must be sufficient discussion of the general nature of abuse to allow you to be given appropriate counsel and to prevent the aggressor from committing more violence. Then, with the help of the Lord, bury the past.

I humbly testify that what I have told you is true. It is based upon eternal principles I have seen the Lord use to give a fulness of life to those scarred by wicked abuse.

If you feel there is only a thin thread of hope, believe me, it is not a thread. It can be the unbreakable connecting link to the Lord which puts a life preserver around you. He will heal you as you cease to fear and place your trust in him by striving to live his teachings.

Please, don?t suffer more. Ask now for the Lord to help you. (See Morm. 9:27; Moro. 7:26, 33.) Decide now to talk to your bishop. Don?t view all that you experience in life through lenses darkened by the scars of abuse. There is so much in life that is beautiful. Open the windows of your heart and let the love of the Savior in. And should ugly thoughts of past abuse come back, remember his love and his healing power. Your depression will be converted to peace and assurance. You will close an ugly chapter and open volumes of happiness.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2005, 08:46:00 PM »
The church does not have problems with the WWASPS.  I say this as an ex-mormon.  I had my name taken off the roles of the church for this very reason. "To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." Abraham Lincoln - The church sins by it not doing anything.  When I asked to be taken off the roles of the church, I included in my letter the reason why...and it primarily is because of the church's stance on behavior modification.  I don't give a crap what Monson or the "pres" of the church says.  They say one thing and do another.  It is a sin and  Hinkley and Monson, et al will have to answer it.  The reply from my local mormon president when I discussed it with him, he just denied that they support the wwasps.  He just like most of the "elders" in the church are full of crap.  To the anon that thinks the church is so wonderful, open your eyes adn ask...wwjd?  do that, and you will have your answer.  If you are honest, then y ou will see the truth of the church and ask to betaken off the roles too.  'Cause you know that power comes from Utah and the Presidency and they don't give a shit about what their members think or feel.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2005, 08:53:00 PM »
as long as a member pays his/her tithing that is all the care about.   Mormonism is a friking joke.  Joseph Smith Jr, a prophet?  I doubt it.  And that "fast and testimony meeting" - is another joke.  The adults egg on the children to "bear their testimony" - another joke.  They call it the church that has the "fullness" of the gospel; I call it a cult.  I've been in 2 cults, Straight and LDS church, and I want nothing to do w/either.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2005, 11:01:00 PM »
I've got friends who are LDS.

I think what gives on the LDS blind spot to institutional child abuse is that they have a bit of a persecution complex as a people.  

They were hounded out of Nauvoo (or however you spell it), and hounded beyond that, and they tend to see any criticism of fellow Mormons as first, being most likely to be rooted in prejudice against their religion.  And, they really, really want to believe that anyone who calls themselves LDS and displays the outward forms of being a "good person" to the community really is a good person.

This gives them a whopping huge blind spot to people using religion hypocritically to cover up their own personal unsavory natures.

I think that's how a bunch of people most of whom really mean to be good people go so badly wrong on this issue.

My cousin is LDS, and he sure wouldn't support this crap.  For most of them, I think they don't know it's happening, and it's almost impossible to get past that huge blind spot of theirs to convince them it's really going on and that you don't give a damn about their religion one way or the other.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2005, 11:09:00 PM »
Part of my "most Mormons mean to be good people" thing is that my cousin is blind in one eye and was functionally blind in the other for a long time.  Then he had an operation and was still functionally blind for a year until the glare died down enough that he could see out of his good eye.

But because social security disability is so hard to get, they never counted him disabled.

So the Mormon church supported him until he could move back in with my aunt and uncle and get back on his feet.  If I remember right, they supported him for over a year.

That kind of good hearted generosity is typical of most of the Saints I've known personally.

I think the monsters who do institutoinalized child abuse are basically using religion for protective coloration, like a chameleon does---they look real religious and pious and good to look like pillars of the community so they can rake in money hand over fist in the great little scam they've found for separating distraut, gullible parents from junior's college fund.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2005, 11:11:00 PM »
er...distraught.

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2005, 11:16:00 PM »
Religion isn't the problem here.  Most 'religeous' people would be horrified at what happens at some of these places.  It's just used as a form of social control.  If it wasn't religion then it'd be nationalism and serving the state.  If not nationalism then it'd be something else.

Trying to go after an ideology is fruitless because it's totally dependent on the other persons perspective and not on solid fact.  Honestly now does anybody think that if tomorrow the Mormons excommunicated the facalty at all these locations, it would change anything?
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2005, 11:34:00 PM »
Well, I would like to see a different sort of response from the LDS. I am not an advocate of mass excommunication.

I would like to see the LDS Church bring pressure to bear upon the republicans they so strongly support and endorse, to pass legislation protecting teens and children from the kinds of abuse and neglect so common in the industry.

I guarantee you, if the LDS come out in support of 1738 - and threaten revolt if it fails to pass intact, the republicans will take note.

THAT is the kind of thing they could do, if they mean what they say.

As for the souls of those who enjoy hurting the kids in their care - That is God's business and I trust Him to take care of it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2005, 01:16:00 AM »
I think that the Lichfields and other Mormons involved in this prey off of other Mormon families who freak out when their children "break the word of wisdom" and use drugs or alcohol or worse yet "break the law of chastidy" and have sex outside of marriage.  There are many people in the LDS church who use the church membership to get gain. Their fellow church goers trust them because they are of the same faith.  I think this is what's really going on and it has nothing to do with the actual church.   I don't think the church would ever support what WWASP and other BM's are doing to children.  I don't think the leaders are fully aware.  They are probably being lied to by Lichfield and his croonies who have lied to themselves - until they really believe they are "helping kids."  

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2005, 10:01:00 AM »
From what I have seen, I think that Mormons have been so involved in BM schools by default.  

Provo Canyon School is located in Utah, so it makes sense that the lay people they hire are mostly Mormon.  

I do not, however, think that makes it acceptable for them to encourage students there to attend their church services, or to BAPTIZE them upon request (this I saw happen, as many kids there began to attend Mormon services out of boredom, then decided to get baptized).  

Funny how we weren't free to even decide for ourselves what clothes to wear or when to eat or use the bathroom or make a phone call, yet we were free to decide to convert to Mormonism and get baptized.  

Is it illegal to baptize minors without their parents permission??
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