Ivy Ridge Accreditation suspended

[Anonymous]

I know enough  about ivy ridge that I sure don't want my kid to be there. If you had a kid, would you as a past teacher and knowing what you know, put your kid in there?

[Antigen]

Teacher, how much did you know about the rest of the program? What did you think of it? How much did the Program interfere in the classroom?

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[Anonymous]

Come to think of it, I remember a lot of the teachers being annoyed with how the students were being treated. This was because it was annoying to them while they were in their offices. They'd often slam the doors to make a point to the dorm parents.
chris g

[Antigen]

Give me an example, please. What sort of things would tick off the teachers? How much did they really know?

It has ever been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues

--Abraham Lincoln

[Anonymous]

As a teacher and just a person in general, no I would not put my child there.  I knew a lot about the program.  I understand the different levels and the consequences.  I gave consequences accordingly.  I know many people that just gave consequences just to abuse their power.  I never did that.  I was well liked and respected by the students.  Sure I had a few that disliked me, but that happens anywhere.  I never saw any kind of abuse toward the children, but I did hear about things that happened.  Whether they are true or not are beyond me.  I worked mainly with the girls and I heard the boys side was much different.  I think the program is great for some kids.  Its kids them away from bad friends and bad parenting.  I can only hope the children I shall have some day don't need to be put in a place like that.  I think if more parents did their job the kids wouldn't end up there.  I just didn't like the way the day to day living was and the lack of affection students were given.  That is all many of them needed.

Chris - did you feel teachers didn't like listening to dorm parents treat you disprespectfully or that the teachers didn't feel like dealing with you?

Any other questions I would be happy to answer.

[Nihilanthic]

Why dont you answer questions about the damn brutality and abuse in there?

Why did that boy turn up bruised and drugged?

Why did someone have an eye on him privatey and publically humiliate him for masturbating?

If we choose to violate the rights of the innocent in order to discover and act against the guilty, then we have transformed our country into a police state and abandoned one of the fundamental tenants of a free society. In order to win the war on drugs, we must not sacrifice the life of the Constitution in the battle.
--US District Judge H. Lee Sarokin

[Anonymous]

Well at the time I felt like the teachers didn't care much about helping the students. Looking back, I see it from a different angle. I think we were intentionally kept away from teachers and therapists.

Want an example? I remember around June or July starring down the hallway while in worksheets. I saw a new kid being escorted through the doors. He told Shelby (admissions lady) that he needed to call his parents. He later made his way down to where the disabled pay phone was. While on his way he was tackled by 3 staff members and backup staff came. They carried him all the way to the other side of the building and brought him to intervention. I had been sent to intervention later that day and staff were still on top of him. The next day he was very swolen and bruised. While this was taking places teachers and administrators closed their doors.

[Nihilanthic]

I love how they call it 'intervention' to attack and beat a kid...  :roll:

No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats---approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less.
--Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom:

[Antigen]

Yes, yes! We can't have kids endangering themselves by trying to call their parents!

Truth does not have to be accepted on faith. Scientists do not hold hands every Sunday, singing, "Yes gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! Amen.
--Dan Barker, former evangelist and author

[Deborah]

Now, Nih honey, you know that gotta make it sound good and righteous for the public. I am thoroughly convince that those who carry out these 'interventions' are sadists, and they do, along with their pedofile bros and sisters, flock to where disenfranchised kids can be found.

[Anonymous]

How many parents do you think read about ivy ridge loosing there ability to give a diploma and give a shit. I can bet that there haven't been any kids taken out of that place. The parents could care less. All they want to do is dump there kids. Hey ivy ridge, you don't have to be accrediated, just get the parents of the kids who are over 16 to sign them out of school. Then you can pull your bullshit and nobody would care. You would just loose the money from the kids that are under 16. A small price to pay to be able to do with the kids whatever you want. I can't believe you ASSHOLES haven't thought of this.

[Anonymous]

I do and I am, just trying to figure a way out of the 90 day required notice.  If it doesn't come to me quickly, it won't matter.  He is out of there.

[Anonymous]

So now WWASP requires a 90 day notice before they let a parent take a child out of one of their gulags?

You are the parent. No one can force you to keep your child anywhere (besides a judge, of course). Get over there and demand to see your child immediately.

[Nihilanthic]

"90 day notice". Thats fraudulent. Also, thats basically keeping them illegally. Kidnapping, I presume?

Get a lawyer, get a cop, get a gun, and get your ass over there. NOW. They CANT stop you and if they do they just opened themselves up to a ton of lawsuits.

It sucks when decent, hardworking people get screwed over like that. Because that means pricks like us don?t stand a chance.
 


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[Timoclea]

On 2005-05-07 15:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

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I do and I am, just trying to figure a way out of the 90 day required notice.  If it doesn't come to me quickly, it won't matter.  He is out of there."

*If* the 90 days has any force in a court of law, it's that you have to *pay* them for 90 days***---not that you have to leave your kid with them.  If you get there and they give you and shit about producing your kid for you to leave together, take out your cell phone and tell them you're about to call 911 and would they like to give the officer an opening to lay charges--because you'd be happy to facilitate that?

Great phrase: "My experience of the legal system, child welfare, and the police wherever you guys set up is, in my opinion, that they'd just love an excuse to toast your ass.  Would you like an opportunity to further develop your experience of them?"

*** I am not a lawyer, but if I were you, I'd strongly consider not paying them after you pick up your child until you've consulted an attorney.  If you pay, it'll be like pulling teeth to get any of it back if it turns out you didn't have to pay.  If they try to sue you for it, you have the oppporunity to present in court any ways in which they may have materially misreprepresented their services to you.  If they threaten your credit rating, you should know (if I remember right) you have the right to place a one page explanation of any item on your credit report in your file.  If they make a report, if it were me and I felt they'd materially misrepresented their services, I'd use that one page to briefly explain that, in your opinion, what you signed up for was nowhere near what you got.  You can't be the first consumer in the history of the world to be very dissatisfied with a product or service.

My guess is that *if* they've materially misrepresented their services, then if you don't pay them for the 90 days they might write you threatening letters but won't bother to take it to court.  Of course, they *might*, so if misrepresentation was involved, you will want to keep good records just like you would on a dispute over a used car or a workplace harrassment situation.  I am not a lawyer, this is not specific legal advice, yada yada yada.

Timoclea

Vain are the thousand creeds that move men's hearts, unutterably vain, worthless as wither'd weeds.
--Emily Bronte