Methods and Techniques

[Libra]

Thanks Deborah, that's exactly what I meant and I agree wholeheartedly with DJ.

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On 2005-04-27 10:19:00, Libra wrote:

"Thanks Deborah, that's exactly what I meant and I agree wholeheartedly with DJ."

Sorry for the misunderstanding.  Deborah is a great listener, eh?

[juniper]

This is so exasperating. TO SHH: IT HAS TO BE CLEANED UP, DEAR GOD WOMEN WHAT' is' WRONG WITH YOU!  WHO ON EARTH WOULD WANT TO EVEN STAND IN
IT!  YOU ARE HOPELESS. It is useless.  I quit.
To DEborah- Here.here! :smile:

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On 2005-04-27 11:54:00, juniper wrote:

"This is so exasperating. TO SHH: IT HAS TO BE CLEANED UP, DEAR GOD WOMEN WHAT' is' WRONG WITH YOU!  WHO ON EARTH WOULD WANT TO EVEN STAND IN

IT!  YOU ARE HOPELESS. It is useless.  I quit.

To DEborah- Here.here! :smile: "

Welcome to the SHH support group, Juniper.  

Step one is to admit that you are powerless over SHH...

Anyway, welcome to the club.  Dealing with this lady is impossible, believe me.  She is soooooo full of shit that her eyes are brown.  

She makes all types of outrageous statements that fly in the face of reality.  When you confront her logically, she'll just say that she has the right to post her opinion whether you like it or not, but she will NEVER answer your pointed, specific questions because SHE CAN'T.

Best advice is to point out her lies, refute with facts and ignore the rest of her drivel.

Like I've said before, she's drinking the HLA-flavored Kool-Aid with a Krazy Straw...

[juniper]

To D.J. You are too funny!

[RobertBruce]

Fireworks? Bonfires? Mrs. Grey you seem to be under the impression that things that transpired the first year when there were all of 15 kids were a permanent fixture. Perhaps they were at that point trying to project some sort of summer camp image, but once they started making a profit there was no longer a need to keep up the sham. You were never around us Mrs. Grey, you forget I was there, none of the people Ive spoken to you, know you or remember you. Many are anxious to come on here and chat it up with you In any event, give it up if you were around so much and so often why did I only meet you a single time? Explain this to me, and back up your idle threats, for once.

[SHH]

Robert the bonfire was NOT the first year, the fireworks I was wrong about it being the first year in my previous post today because I remember now that my son was sitting in the back of an employee's truck watching them and that would have been either 1997 or 1998 because my son was about 2. The fireworks were held down by the lake next to the gazebo. And the bonfire was after I moved up to the school and would have been either Halloween 1998 or 1999 I think. And I did talk to students at different times during functions and in the cafeteria. I remember Brian, and Devon(a girl), and Sarah, dont remember their last names, but they chatted with my mother in law often in the kitchen and myself when I was in there, and Bill knew Devon a little better than I did. And I remember trying to make friends with the young black man(dont remember his name right now) who later got in trouble and walked off campus because he was angry and I talked to him and tried to get him to calm down (he was walking right in front of my house at that particular moment) Quit twisting my damn words around Robert and misinterpret into whatever crap you want to think. I lived on campus twice as long as you you seem to forget that small point. You know what? on second thought..do whatever the heck you want....you dont deserve any more responses from me, you continue to disrespect me by calling me Mrs Gray (which is NOT me), call me bitch, retard, and dumb, slut, etc...when I have NEVER ONCE called you a name and basically act like only YOU and others who feel like you do have the right to type on here..whatever Robert. You obviously need to grow up a little bit. Arguing with you just isn't worth my valuable time anymore. It's getting boring. That's the beauty of the internet...when you get bored...you can TURN IT OFF!! LOL

[juniper]

Bonfires??? Gee, our children weren't allowed to stay up 'til midnight on New years Eve..

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On 2005-04-27 15:54:00, SHH wrote:

"Robert the bonfire was NOT the first year, the fireworks I was wrong about it being the first year in my previous post today because I remember now that my son was sitting in the back of an employee's truck watching them and that would have been either 1997 or 1998 because my son was about 2. The fireworks were held down by the lake next to the gazebo. And the bonfire was after I moved up to the school and would have been either Halloween 1998 or 1999 I think. And I did talk to students at different times during functions and in the cafeteria. I remember Brian, and Devon(a girl), and Sarah, dont remember their last names, but they chatted with my mother in law often in the kitchen and myself when I was in there, and Bill knew Devon a little better than I did. And I remember trying to make friends with the young black man(dont remember his name right now) who later got in trouble and walked off campus because he was angry and I talked to him and tried to get him to calm down (he was walking right in front of my house at that particular moment) Quit twisting my damn words around Robert and misinterpret into whatever crap you want to think. I lived on campus twice as long as you you seem to forget that small point. You know what? on second thought..do whatever the heck you want....you dont deserve any more responses from me, you continue to disrespect me by calling me Mrs Gray (which is NOT me), call me bitch, retard, and dumb, slut, etc...when I have NEVER ONCE called you a name and basically act like only YOU and others who feel like you do have the right to type on here..whatever Robert. You obviously need to grow up a little bit. Arguing with you just isn't worth my valuable time anymore. It's getting boring. That's the beauty of the internet...when you get bored...you can TURN IT OFF!! LOL"

Now, some more BS AND some revealing truths, too...

So, SHH, now you say you moved to campus in 1998, huh?  Before, you were leading people to believe you had some kind of knowledge about me, or more specifically, my job function.

Well, in REALITY, I lived on campus in 1995.  You did not.  In fact, I've never met or seen you EVER.  But, somehow, you like to tell people on this board that you know what my job was, including the minutiae of what PROJECTS I was assigned to.  

Hmmm...  Sounds like someone has soiled their pants again, due to the fact that they talk out of their ass.

If you're gonna LIE, you'd better at least have a GOOD MEMORY!

Just admit it, you don't know shit from shinola...

[SHH]

I said the bonfire was 98 possibly...not that I moved there in 98. I moved on campus in April, 1997 to be precise. Before that I lived in Cumming. And I visited the school often on the weekends between 1994-1997 because my inlaws lived on campus starting in January 1995. I probably did not meet you personally because of you being not on campus on weekends, however, I do know the person who wrote the policies and procedures manual and since it was a woman it could not have been you now could it. That is how I know you are portraying your importance of your tasks assigned to be larger than they were. And since you say you never met me, how could you have made that claim a month ago that I was nothing to look at huh? Guess you can't say that since you claim to have never met me now huh. And since we are on the subject of your job, how professional is it of a counselor with 3 degrees to suggest that I commit suicide because you don't like to read my posts or dont think they are believable or valid?? Yea, D. you are REAL professional alright. WHATEVER.

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On 2005-04-28 09:30:00, SHH wrote:

"I said the bonfire was 98 possibly...not that I moved there in 98. I moved on campus in April, 1997 to be precise. Before that I lived in Cumming. And I visited the school often on the weekends between 1994-1997 because my inlaws lived on campus starting in January 1995. I probably did not meet you personally because of you being not on campus on weekends, however, I do know the person who wrote the policies and procedures manual and since it was a woman it could not have been you now could it. That is how I know you are portraying your importance of your tasks assigned to be larger than they were. And since you say you never met me, how could you have made that claim a month ago that I was nothing to look at huh? Guess you can't say that since you claim to have never met me now huh. And since we are on the subject of your job, how professional is it of a counselor with 3 degrees to suggest that I commit suicide because you don't like to read my posts or dont think they are believable or valid?? Yea, D. you are REAL professional alright. WHATEVER. "

OK, 1997 instead of 1998.  So, you DIDN'T live there, did you?  I was there BEFORE you ever got there.  And, yes, I DID stay on weekends, as I was doing the overnights in the dorms due to a short staff.  I also LIVED ON CAMPUS seven days a week.  Wouldn't you KNOW that if you were really there?  You were NOT there when I was there at all.  So, again, you are proven to be a complete liar.

You mean you don't know when "THE BONFIRE" (your pet project, as you posted earlier)was?  Even though you claim to have been the one who thought it up and pushed it through?  But you don't know WHEN?  

Awful strange that events you say you initiated slip your recollection, but yet you can have crystal clear recall of my job function that was three years before you ever arrived?  Please, not everyone is that dumb.

Also, how can you purport to know hwo wrote a manual THREE YEARS before you ever worked there?  Hmmm....  another head-scratcher.

A woman?  No.  Not true.  I know exactly who you're talking about, because she was my partner (also a cokehead and busted for it), but she did not do the writing.  

In fact, I was given the project because of previous experience in technical writing and the "woman" to whom you refer gladly admitted back then that she was a terrible writer and could not have done the job and that it was due to my authorship that the manual was approved for use.  Of course, there would be no way for you to know this because your involvement started three years after the fact.

I DID see your picture in Bill's office and yes, you are not much to look at.  That's true.

It's funny how you prattle on about how you spent sooooooooo much time on campus, but I certainly never saw you there in 1994 or 1995 and students that attended HLA during the time you CLAIM to have worked there never saw you either.  

It seems to me that it is entirely possible that you never even worked there at all.  Nobody seems able to corroborate anything you say.  Maybe it's ALL bullshit...?

SHH the consummate Bunk-o artist.

By the way, I'm not here in any professional capacity, so I do stand by my assertion that you should save everyone else the pain and off yourself.

[RobertBruce]

Mrs. Grey again you seem to think youre testimony about the school holds some credibility. We've shown time and time again that you have no such credibility. Think about it terms like this, the family members of guards and staff used to live on Alcatraz. Now even though they lived on the same island, they would in no way be capable of testifying about the conditions of living in the prison would they? I mean even you with your simplistic mind can understand that cant you? Its the same thing, those people cant discuss the prison they werent inmates in, anymore than you can discuss being a student at a school that you never attended. Furthermore by your own addmissions you never observed the biggest part of the students life. So how then would you truly know what our day to day lives were like? The fact is that you cant, why are you unwilling to accept this? Its beyond obvious to everyone else.

Now as to your claims of fireworks and bonfires, again you forget I did actually attend the school there. At no point while I was there, nor at any time that the people I have spoken with did any of these things ever actually happen. As to twisting your words around, Ive done no such thing, you are just incapable of understanding all the big words people are using, and are simply becoming frustrated by the whole thing.

Im wondering though since you claimed hundreds of students graduate a year, and you did as you said live there for seven years, why was it you only knew three kids? I mean I would think since you claim you were with the kids so often coming with new and exciting things for us to do all the time, eating with us in the cafeteria, spending all those many holidays with us, you would know numerous kids. The fact is you dont know any of us now because you didnt know any of us then.

Oh and for the record you calling me a liar seems to against your "i never called you anything" song and dance. Oh and again you expect people to extend to you a courtesy you were never willing to show others. You claim your entitled to share your opinion and experiences, and no one has the right to discount them, yet that was all you did when you first came on here. Get used to it.


Oh and Im STILL waiting for you to back up any of your idle threats.

[SHH]

Dysfunction I happen to know who wrote the manual because I remember them (admin people) discussing it back then. You forget they had meetings in my house occasionally and I attended the functions where they discussed work alot. And I was on campus almost every weekend back in those years you lived there but I didnt work there then. I worked there from 1997-1998. I believe it was October 1997-September 1998. I worked under Rusty Ray and did the progress reports and report cards on my home computer. If you dont believe me call someone up at the school and ask them. I worked there whether the FEW people you talked to remember it or not. I have w-2's do you need copies of those? And I dont remember the exact year of the bonfire because I lived up there for 4 halloweens and dont precisely remember the year but it was either the 2nd halloween or 3rd halloween (98 or 99) and yes it was MY idea call Dr. B and ask him. I remember it vividly because a tree caught on fire briefly due to the wind picking up an ember. The bonfire was held in the field to the left of the road that went across the creek(lower left field). They roasted marshmallows also. I dont know why you insist on thinking I am lying...I was there at the bonfire D. you were NOT. Oh, and D.....Bill never had a picture of me in his office....only the children..I dont like being photographed....so NO you never saw a photo of me....Who's LYING D?? Because it AINT me.

[Antigen]

You miss the point, SHH. I don't think RB is trying to say you didn't work there. Just that they treated you like a mushroom. You seem to think you know all about what went on there, but you don't.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
-- Aristotle

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On 2005-04-28 14:40:00, SHH wrote:

"Dysfunction I happen to know who wrote the manual because I remember them (admin people) discussing it back then. You forget they had meetings in my house occasionally and I attended the functions where they discussed work alot. And I was on campus almost every weekend back in those years you lived there but I didnt work there then. I worked there from 1997-1998. I believe it was October 1997-September 1998. I worked under Rusty Ray and did the progress reports and report cards on my home computer. If you dont believe me call someone up at the school and ask them. I worked there whether the FEW people you talked to remember it or not. I have w-2's do you need copies of those? And I dont remember the exact year of the bonfire because I lived up there for 4 halloweens and dont precisely remember the year but it was either the 2nd halloween or 3rd halloween (98 or 99) and yes it was MY idea call Dr. B and ask him. I remember it vividly because a tree caught on fire briefly due to the wind picking up an ember. The bonfire was held in the field to the left of the road that went across the creek(lower left field). They roasted marshmallows also. I dont know why you insist on thinking I am lying...I was there at the bonfire D. you were NOT. Oh, and D.....Bill never had a picture of me in his office....only the children..I dont like being photographed....so NO you never saw a photo of me....Who's LYING D?? Because it AINT me."

Just saying that you can remember my job function from 3 years before you were ever on campus, but can't remember your own party that you made a big deal about planning.  That's all.  Take it for what it's worth.

Well, if it wasn't you, then it was someone else who looked like a cross between a bullfrog and a fat Mexican (no offense intended toward any amphibians or our neighbors from the south).