Whitmore Alumni....Chris...Mr. Bean... Whitmore Former Stude

[Couture]

I was just wondering if any of the alumni knew the same people that I went there with.  PJ, Casey, Doug, Kritin, Marie, Dave??  I won't say any last names.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-04-08 12:10:00, Couture wrote:

"I was just wondering if any of the alumni knew the same people that I went there with.  PJ, Casey, Doug, Kritin, Marie, Dave??  I won't say any last names.  "

yea casey's there, i talked to her a couple of days ago, kristin worte last week and doug called yesterday. Mark just sent a letter to dave today, but to tell you the truth, if they knew you were saying the things youve said, i dont think they would want to have anything to do with you. You forgot little josh, he came and spent the month of august with us, im sure this would make him cry. what makes people turn on there friends the way you have? I've heard the reason you were here is because your parent never trusted you, why dont you tell all the people about your wilderness program experience and all of the so called abuse you had there? i thought you had to walk 20 miles  a day and your shoes were taken away form you and you couldnt shave for 45 days! and you only got to eat rice and beans, tell me excactly what you have learned out of your life experiences? i hope i dont turn out like you.

[Antigen]

On 2005-04-08 14:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

Mark just sent a letter to dave today, but to tell you the truth, if they knew you were saying the things youve said, i dont think they would want to have anything to do with you.

That's not natural or healthy. Look, Couture is not saying anything really scandalous. Why this level of hostility? It doesn't make sense at all. And then you go on to try and defame her? And it doesn't even look like you know her at all. "I've heard the reason you were here..."? From whom? The same people who told you their horses were shot by crazy Canadians and the mean old Vancouver government wouldn't do anything to help?

Puhleeze!

Why were you sent to Whitmore? Remember, if they're encouraging you to dish the dirt on this gal, don't you think they might do the same to you if you ever have any difference w/ them in future? Doesn't even have to be anything major. Just any minor difference w/ the party line; it's all black and white, for "us" or against "us". I would caution you, do what you have to do to protect yourself, but don't go so far as to entirely alienate yourself from these ppl w/ whom you're now so upset. When you finally get out (and it's only a matter of time) they may be the best friends you could ask for. No one else will really understand.

 

In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn?t speak up because I wasn?t a trade unionist. Then they came for Catholics, and I didn?t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
--Protestant minister Martin Neimoller

[Couture]

Thank you.  There is some intelligence spoken amongst non-intellects.  Are they kidding, really?

[Anonymous]

corture, do you know anything about Cheryl's ability to do scripting? What it is , how it works?

[Anonymous]

So everyone Corture mentions is just still in love with Whitmore, and writes or calls just all the time? Sure they do. The only bad person, talking negatively about Whitmore is this poor, misguided girl? Whatever could be her problem, huh? Perhaps, she grew up? Perhaps she is mentally well? Perhaps she is happy away from THERE? Since she was only THERE 3-4 months, perhaps her parents realized what a bad choice they made to begin with by enrolling her THERE?

[Gmom]

From what I have been able to find out, scripting is some sort of praying or "ritual" practiced, within the Mormon religion, to rid one of negative "stuff."  Could be attitude, thoughts, illness, etc.

FYI:  Some of my research on Mormonism, the Mormoms who adhere to the beliefs of the Salt Lake
powers that be are very different than Mormons is other states.

I also find it interesting that the Sudweeks claim to have this wonderful "Christian" atmosphere -- for lack of a better word -- when, if fact, the Mormons do not believe in Christianity as it is commonly known.  In fact, anyone who is not Mormon is "evil-- satan."

Utah has twice as many divorces, suicides among teenage girls, child abuse. and young girls pregnant before marriage than the rest of the U.S.

[Couture]

Scripting as I knew it, was basically that.  We would sit in a room with Wendy, a neighbor of the Whitmore's, I don't kow if she was liscenced in anything, if their is even liscensing for that sort of thing.  My memories of that are kind of vague, though.  I do remember she would say, okay, now think back to when you were four months in the womb.  What do you see?  What do you feel?  What a crock.  Seriously.  What I thought back to, and what I felt was basically stuff that Sheryl had been telling me about my parents.  About how they didn't care about me, and wanted to get rid of me.  So I would come up with explanations for my relationship with them through this 'scripting'.  My mom did not approve of me doing scripting, because she did not know what it was about, and she asked Sheryl not to let me do it.  She let me do it anyways.

[Joyce Harris]

Mr. Bean said Cheryl could do scripting really well- that she could "script anybody." Guess she figured out how to do it, huh? Sounds sort of "voo-doo stuff to me."

But if your mother asked that you not participate, her request should have been honored.
We asked that our 12 year old daughter not be allowed to wear make-up; and that request was not honored. Some girl there even arched our daughter's eyebrows. Age 12 is too young for this.

[Anonymous]

It is interesting that the posting from Whitmore wanted Corture to share her "Wilderness experience."  Why?  Because it might be more extreme, or a bit more abusive than her experience at Whitmore? Why bring that up?  Just a form of deflection, or a warning that someone knows more "dirt to expose" about this girl?
I do hope Corture/Allison keeps posting.

[Couture]

Yeah, don't worry, I am not about to let that get to me.  I will continue to post and answer any questions anyone may have.

[Joyce Harris]

Corture,

I'm not asking any details of the wilderness programs.  But were you pulled from the wilderness program, and then placed at Whitmore?

Do you know who referred your parents to Whitmore?

[Whitmore Alumni]

Scripting isn't that big of a deal. Sorry I haven't been posting as much. I knew josh, casie, matt, dave, doug, P.J, knew all of them they were great i miss them a ton. Good times. That was my first group till they all left. :sad:

[Joyce Harris]

Whitmore Alumni,

We only ask what scripting is and how it works.
Mr. Bean says it is a big deal, and that Cheryl Sudweeks can "script anyone."  He keeps saying all us unforturnate parents need a good scripting from Cheryl.  We'd just like to know what it is, how it works, what it could do for us.  It sounds like a BIG DEAL.

Explain it to us.

[Couture]

On 2005-04-11 08:48:00, Joyce Harris wrote:

"Corture,



I'm not asking any details of the wilderness programs.  But were you pulled from the wilderness program, and then placed at Whitmore?



Do you know who referred your parents to Whitmore?"

No, I was not pulled, I graduated my wilderness program.  No abuse was inflicted on me while I was there either.  My parents were under the impression that Whitmore was for people that had graduated another harder program to ready them for a less strict. more school work kind of program.  None of the kids that were there when I was there had been to another program.  

The person that referred me was an ed consultant.  Steve B or Steve S something.  My mom couldnt' even remember.  He was obviously not a very good ed consultant.