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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2005, 11:54:00 PM »
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Utah certainly doesn't have the market cornered in terms of sadistic behavior, but here's an interesting thread. Scroll down and read about McCotter.



http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... =9&start=0"


Yeah, they're definitely not the only ones.  Lately it just seems like they have a disproportionate amount of lunatics out there, but then again I've probably just been spending too much time reading up on the Sudweeks Happy Family.  ::ftard::

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2005, 12:02:00 AM »
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Appreciating the humor!
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2005, 12:04:00 AM »
:grin:

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2005, 12:16:00 PM »
The licensing board is in Nephi Utah. A little hick town of about 500 people. Why isn't the licensing board in Salt Lake City?  Why is it in Nephi Utah?  What do we know about Mark Wardle?  He was charged with a major felonies - and he's given another change to march children to their deaths.  Unbelievable.  :scared:  :eek:  :???:
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 01:55:00 PM »
The name is DIANA Robbins.  The licensing board IS in Salt Lake City but individual agents live throughout the state.  Diana just happens to be in Nephi. I just happen to be in Nephi earlier this morning and they have several cars around their office meaning only one thing....They are up and running big time.
It doesn't matter what shows up on Struggling teens.  They can do business without Lons blessings.  

I hope they (the Wardles) are ashamed and aren't hitting the Educational consultants for business.  I can only think of one that would dare send kids there.  That would be Chris Koceruk.  

You say that Wardle has been exonerated but that doesn't mean that the program was perfect!!! FAR from it. Many Many violations!!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2005, 02:16:00 PM »
Yes, of course they can do business without Lon's blessings. Point being, in the past they have consistently sent updates to ST re: changes in their program. It is a bit curious why this was not reported, as they have much support at/through ST.

Referals from Chris Koceruk. Means kids from Tx.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2005, 05:36:00 PM »
Close all death camps!  It's recently been scientifically demonstrated that boot camps can do more harm than good.  IT's all about money - What's the tuition for DD - I'll bet it's about 12,000 for a few months - that's the going rate. The new web-site sounds like Ansani  or Answani ( I can't remember the spelling - but it's in Arizona and has a fairly decent reputation)

So - annon who was just in NEPHI UTAH - does Diann go to church with Wardle?  It seems that these people love to form alliances with the authorities. It happens all of the time.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2005, 07:55:00 PM »
I was traveling from St. George to Salt Lake City earlier this morning and drove by the office to see what was up.  Nephi is right on I-15.

I have no idea of Diana's religious affiliation.  

I have to disagree with you about all programs cause more harm then good.  I have the opportunity to speak with these kids in various programs often.  I am able to talk with students on all levels of behavior, without staff present, and I would say about 90% are glad their parents sent them to a progam. The other 10% have serious behvior problems that no amount of outdoor therapy or behavior modification could help.  

I do know the Wardle's, in particular Mark Wardle, is dangerous to the students in his care. He also gives the entire industry a black eye.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2005, 10:37:00 PM »
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I am able to talk with students on all levels of behavior, without staff present,


The same could be said of battered women, even when their abuser is not standing right over them. And it's for a lot of the same reasons, too. It's amazing the power you can gain over someone simply by demoralizing them. But it's been studied and documented. It works, at least temporarily, about 90% of the time.

When I was close to graduating from Straight, you would have thought I was just about the happiest, most grateful kid you'd ever seen. If my own father took me aside and told me he'd take me out of there right now, I would have thought it was a trick. Later, of course, Straight, Inc. became infamous. But, at the time, there were a LOT of people like you who thought everything was just peachy there. There were sort of unwritten rules about how to behave around certain people. This included the "Dr." whatever executive staff who they hired for their titles. Nobody wants to risk getting set back, having to stay longer and losing "priviledges" like adequate access to a toilet.

Of course, the power of denial is amazing. People go around thinking they see everything clearly and understand just about everything that goes on around them. But, in reality, we see what we're willing to see.


including parents and some staff.

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2005, 02:01:00 AM »
TO THE ANNON WHO TALKS TO THE PROGRAM KIDS....
MOST OF THESE KIDS KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE SEVERELY PUNISHED FOR SPEAKING NEGATIVELY ABOUT THE PROGRAM. MY OWN CHILD WAS SEVERELY PUNISHED WITH A WEEK LONG ISOLATION FOR SAYING SHE DID NOT LIKE THE PROGRAM AND THAT IT WASN'T HELPING HER.
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2005, 09:56:00 PM »
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On 2005-03-15 09:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am LIVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What is Utah thinking!?!?  Giving Mark Wardle ANOTHER license to KILL...  Once was not enough?????



http://hslic.utah.gov/db_results.asp?co ... mit=Search



http://www.distant-drums.com/





Please e-mail  Diana Robbins (licensing agent)



drobbins@utah.gov    





Complain, rant, rave and kick butt to save the next kid in their sights!!!!!!!!"



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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2006, 10:18:00 PM »
Victim's mom decries teen program's return
Utah teen-help industry: She wants the owners, whose first license was revoked, to be banned from the business
By Kirsten Stewart
The Salt Lake Tribune
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2006, 11:04:00 PM »
Susan, if you're still reading the forum, pm me.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2006, 08:03:00 AM »
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I would say about 90% are glad their parents sent them to a progam.


This claim is specious.  A statement like this would lead the educated reader to dismiss other statements by the same author.  This number is basically ridiculous.
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2006, 12:01:00 PM »
90% of statistics are made up.
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