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« on: March 14, 2005, 11:58:00 PM »
StrugglingTeens.com is owned by the ex CEDU enrollment person who was paid on comission, Lon Woodberry. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

When a Cedu escort drugged and raped a girl, his wife Denise Woodberry $$$$$$ was the Boundary County Prosecuting Attorney. Though the rapist, Armstrong, was clearly guilty. He was not prosecuted by Woodberry, Can you guess why? $$$

I think it was because Denise's husband was making a lot of money $$$$$ at CEDU, and prosecuting a CEDU escort for rape would lose the school enrollments and thus lose her husband Lon Woodberry money. $$$$$$$

These so called educational consultants are mostly ex cedu program staff. They know little about kids or education. They know a lot about money.

What are the qualifications to be an educational consultant and make referrals for cash to abusive boarding schools? A high school diploma and some experience yelling at kids in rap sessions will do.  

Thanks Ginger for starting this topic.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 12:28:00 PM »
It is very interesting that the Association of Independent Educational Consultants accepts donations from Aspen, CEDU and other programs, and many Ed Cons are active members of NATSAP.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 02:06:00 PM »
NATSAP?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 02:31:00 PM »
National Association of Theraputic Schools and Programs....Check out their website.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 10:52:00 PM »
Roy:  read this and all I can say is- Damn...this makes me sick. Thought we had problems with the Whitmore mess.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 11:51:00 PM »
I think it is very evident that the entire system works in concert to assure their individual profits. Their bottom line is increased with each poor baby soul they sell, for this is all about trafficking helpless children to hellish places. I do not for one minute believe that these parents are hapless victims, unaware of what they are doing. They send their children away, not to be helped, but rather to be abused in a manner that they would get arrested for doing themselves. None of these parents are stupid, most of them are highly educated and know fully well what they are doing. Let's be realistic, people from the barrio can't afford to abuse their children by proxy. These parents should be held accountable for what they have subjected their children to. I am a gramma, and not computer literate....it took me about a month to educate myself on the child abuse  industry....so it certainly does not take a rocket scientist. I am sick of hearing about how these programs "duped" the parents. These parents know exactly what they are doing and should be held accountable for what is happening to their children.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 11:52:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6069&forum=9
NATSAP's creation was funded by a man who is an educational consultant and owns a TBS and Wilderness Program. His programs operated for 7 years and 2 months respectively without proper licensure. The TBS is still not licensed as such. The members agree to abide by the 'ethics' established by the organization. I would not put much faith in that.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#64525

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... 9&start=10
As I've learned in my research, BM facilities are attempting to self regulate. They are creating Industry Associations like NATSAP to give the illusion that there is adequate regulation. http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews01.html
This meeting was the result of an earlier exploratory meeting held in Atlanta, Georgia, November 8, 1998 the day after the Independent Educational Consultants Association (IECA) conference in the same city. The Atlanta exploratory meeting had been called by John Reddan, who had written a paper outlining the size and scope of a possible association and asked for and received $5500 from Len Buccellato and Hidden Lake Academy in Dahlonega, Georgia to travel to ten programs in nine states and to host the meeting at the Atlanta Hilton.
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Members pledge to follow rules that were created by other members-owners/manager of programs. How ridiculous?
And they present this organization to potential clients as an independent entity to give the impressions that they are regulated.
Look at their BODs:
BOARD MEMBERS:
Michael Allgood, Cascade School, California, 3-year term
Tim Brace, Aspen Youth Services, California, 3-year term
Len Buccellato, Hidden Lake Academy, Georgia, 3-year term
Bobbi Christensen, Crater Lake School, Oregon, 3-year term
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#29235
Kimbal DeLaMare, Island View, Utah, 2-year term
Gary Emmons, Brush Ranch School, New Mexico, 2-year term
John Mercer, Mission Mountain School, 2-year term
Jan Moss, Spring Ridge Academy, Arizona, 3- year term
John Santa, Montana Academy, Montana, 3-year term
Rosemary Tippett, Three Springs, Alabama, 3-year term.
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The facilties that are members of NATSAP appear to want to distinquish themselves from the lowly types like WWASP. But they are no different, just more covert with their abuse. Policies are very similar.
Other links to NATSAP:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews03.html
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html
?NATSAP is a 501(C)(6) trade association of one hundred and ten (110) boarding schools, residential treatment centers, wilderness programs, and group homes in twenty-eight states.?

Their real purpose is to advocate for public policy that enhances their operations. They fought against regulations for "escort services" in Ca.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een03.html
A section at the end of the bill would ensure that the only way an out-of-control youngster could be transported to a program to get the kind of help that is needed, is with that youngster?s permission.
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Funny, I sent a complaint to NATSAP about the facility I had dealings with. Little did I know the program owner facilitated the creation of NATSAP. Any surprise that I never got a response?

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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2005, 10:48:00 AM »
This information needs to get to the public. Is there any way to get it to pop up when people look for schools on-line? It's really hard to determine who is worse, the facilities themselves, the Ed Cons who recommend them, NATSAP which covers and lobbys for them or the parents who fall for the snow job.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2005, 11:47:00 PM »
Three Springs took over New Dominion School for Boys and New Dominion School for Girls in Va. Courts are ordering kids to these facilities and the state pays for it (at least very often).

My step-daughter (who teaches in the public school system) has a friend from college who recently started working at New Dominion. I would be more than happy to e-mail her to e-mail him, but is there something specific or pointed I should ask? She is a very progressive educator and wouldn't go for this type of thing. Moreover, since she's recently out of college, she might know someone who teaches at Carlbrook.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2005, 01:34:00 AM »
No, I'd say just get in touch and make yourself available.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2005, 11:28:00 PM »
I do not for one minute believe that these parents are hapless victims, unaware of what they are doing. They send their children away, not to be helped, but rather to be abused in a manner that they would get arrested for doing themselves. None of these parents are stupid, most of them are highly educated and know fully well what they are doing. Let's be realistic, people from the barrio can't afford to abuse their children by proxy. These parents should be held accountable for what they have subjected their children to. >>>

I am hear to tell you that you are WRONG.  Not all parents know about this underworld of legalized child abuse/cult homes.  In my small, uppder middle class world I truly didn't know something like this could even exist.  Once I did, I rescued my son immediately and have since filed a lawsuit.  We, as parents tried all the legal avenues with the State of Miss. justice system, but the corruption runs to deep.  These places need to be shut down to save those poor kids, but also for the parents who honestly don't know these kinds of places existed.
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heryle - My son was TORTURED and ABUSED at Bethel Boys Academy aka Eagle Point Christian Academy, aka Pine View Academy, Lucedale, MS.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2005, 09:08:00 PM »
Can you find this page with Google??
http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/6/jun04seennheard.html??

I will start by saying that I use Struggling Teens website quite frequently to try to track certain peoples' progress through the industry. On their main page they offer both a link to their archives and a Google search of their website.

Not that I have ever been a fan of the company or their business, I always counted it as at least a qualifier that Lon Woodbury kept himself above the deception and lying that seems to plague the industry. In short, at least he believed he was doing the right thing.

That belief of integrity was shattered this evening however when I went to do a simple search for Kevin Warner who has recently disappeared from the Sagewalk staff page. Even though I didn't expect to see anything this soon regarding new employment for him I was really surprised to see that "Kevin Warner" turned up nothing, even more surprised to see that "Warner" by itself did not turn up a single page referring to Kevin Warner.

To make a long evening of searching brief, I do have a saved copy of the page linked above from Struggling Teens that does mention Kevin Warner, and to Lon Woodbury's credit he has left it on his server. However, I have yet to find a search criteria that will bring up this page from either his website or even the regular Google engine.

I am not saying that Kevin Warner was the reason this page disappeared, but it does bother me that any publicly published page that was supposedly available in archives would be removed from availability to the public. I know I initially found this page through a search on either Google or the Struggling Teens page and saved it for one reason or another. As it stands now, if I hadn't saved it before, I would not have found this document. Someone has obviously made the determination that this page should not be included in Google's search results.

Here is the page again:
http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives/2004/6/jun04seennheard.html. Please tell me I am wrong.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2005, 06:53:00 PM »
"(May 21, 2004) Kevin Warner, brian@sagewalk.com, Program Director of SageWalk the Wilderness School, Redmond, OR, 800-877-1922, 541-316-4800, http://www.sagewalk.com stopped by Woodbury Reports on their way through north Idaho to give us an update on changes to their program. SageWalk now has a stronger parent component, as well as improved aftercare/ transition planning for their graduating students. For more information, please contact Brian."

 Is this it?
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2005, 08:47:00 PM »
I am not sure if it was just a temporary glitch that kept that page from being retreived by a search or if the power of Fornits' has convinced them to put it back up, but the page I originally asked about is once again available to the Google search engine.

I do still wonder how many other uncataloged pages have gone missing from the search engines even though they still technically remain available on their web server.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2005, 12:34:00 AM »
I just hashed it out with my Mom about what CEDU was really like... over 15 years later.  There really is not a whole lot of awareness.  She was referred by our family therapist who were also pastors.  The brochure looked idyllic. CEDU marketed itself as a school (joke #1) and an emotional growth environment (joke #2).  My Mom simply believed the "experts."  
I JUST told her everything that went including the fact that the staff lacked qualifications and it was really authorized as a group home. (Although she believed my story 100%, I think she resented me for telling the truth more than the school for their transgressions.) There was no individual therapy, and frankly, it was an emotionally abusive cult that STUNTED emotional growth, rather than promoted it.  
Why was I sent there? I wasn't a druggie, or a liar, or a threat to anyone. I never even stole anything except a pack of gum when I was three.
What I was was a very depressed girl with very low self esteem, a sleep disorder, and some trauma from sexual abuses.  NONE of these issues, and I mean, NONE were ever dealt with at CEDU. Not a single one. They wouldn't even know how to identify it.  And there was no way in hell I would share my story when I saw how CEDU abused or exploited victims of abuse.  

When Mom told me where she was taking me, I was so weary from life, I didn't even care. I knew I needed help, but I didn't get it there.
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