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« Reply #495 on: January 12, 2006, 07:20:00 PM »
I spoke to him a few days ago, he seems good.

Why are you crying about us shutting up your pointless comments. You didnt have a problem with Kathleen employing the same tactic.

Again typical staff behavior, cry when your own tricks are used against you.

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« Reply #496 on: January 12, 2006, 07:28:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-12 16:20:00, RobertBruce wrote:

"I spoke to him a few days ago, he seems good.



Why are you crying about us shutting up your pointless comments. You didnt have a problem with Kathleen employing the same tactic.



Again typical staff behavior, cry when your own tricks are used against you.



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Fuck off man, you are nothing but a shady dude who makes the same posts time after time. Stop crying and take action.
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« Reply #497 on: January 12, 2006, 09:35:00 PM »
How old ARE you Devin?
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« Reply #498 on: January 13, 2006, 12:20:00 AM »
Fuck off man, you are nothing but a shady dude who makes the same posts time after time. Stop crying and take action.>>>

And what are you doing troll? That's the longest sentence you've put together on this forum so far except for whining, "What happened to my posts.  ::mecry::  Wah, someone deleted them. I should be allowed to post "shut up, suck my dick. Your just like the program.  ::mecry:: " time and time again.
How does the shoe feel on the other foot you fucking nut job?
Why don't you contribute something useful or shut the fuck up yourself, you whiny ass spoled brat.
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« Reply #499 on: January 13, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-12 21:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fuck off man, you are nothing but a shady dude who makes the same posts time after time. Stop crying and take action.>>>



And what are you doing troll? That's the longest sentence you've put together on this forum so far except for whining, "What happened to my posts.  ::mecry::  Wah, someone deleted them. I should be allowed to post "shut up, suck my dick. Your just like the program.  ::mecry:: " time and time again.

How does the shoe feel on the other foot you fucking nut job?

Why don't you contribute something useful or shut the fuck up yourself, you whiny ass spoled brat.

 

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I am personally glad that whoever runs this board is not allowing rediculous comments to be put on here anymore.  It is an acknowledgement that HLA was doing the right thing the from the beginning by not allowing the same thing to happen on their board.
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« Reply #500 on: January 13, 2006, 09:55:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-12 21:20:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Fuck off man, you are nothing but a shady dude who makes the same posts time after time. Stop crying and take action.>>>





And what are you doing troll? That's the longest sentence you've put together on this forum so far except for whining, "What happened to my posts.  ::mecry::  Wah, someone deleted them. I should be allowed to post "shut up, suck my dick. Your just like the program.  ::mecry:: " time and time again.


How does the shoe feel on the other foot you fucking nut job?


Why don't you contribute something useful or shut the fuck up yourself, you whiny ass spoled brat.


 


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I am personally glad that whoever runs this board is not allowing rediculous comments to be put on here anymore.  It is an acknowledgement that HLA was doing the right thing the from the beginning by not allowing the same thing to happen on their board.



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You fail to see the difference.  This board cleans up spam.  HLA's board deletes posts form anyone who doesn't endorse HLA.

The important distinction is that you may dissent about whatever you want on this forum, so long as you don't flood or spam (waste bandwidth that costs money that you don't pay).  On the HLA board, you are not allowed to make any comments that disagree with the moderators' opinions, even if they are documented facts.  

Big difference.  I'm sorry that your reasoning capacity is so small that you can't understand this salient point.  I hope that my explanation was sufficient for you to understand it now.  :roll:
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« Reply #501 on: January 13, 2006, 02:05:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-12 21:20:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Fuck off man, you are nothing but a shady dude who makes the same posts time after time. Stop crying and take action.>>>







And what are you doing troll? That's the longest sentence you've put together on this forum so far except for whining, "What happened to my posts.  ::mecry::  Wah, someone deleted them. I should be allowed to post "shut up, suck my dick. Your just like the program.  ::mecry:: " time and time again.



How does the shoe feel on the other foot you fucking nut job?



Why don't you contribute something useful or shut the fuck up yourself, you whiny ass spoled brat.



 



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I am personally glad that whoever runs this board is not allowing rediculous comments to be put on here anymore.  It is an acknowledgement that HLA was doing the right thing the from the beginning by not allowing the same thing to happen on their board.





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You fail to see the difference.  This board cleans up spam.  HLA's board deletes posts form anyone who doesn't endorse HLA.



The important distinction is that you may dissent about whatever you want on this forum, so long as you don't flood or spam (waste bandwidth that costs money that you don't pay).  On the HLA board, you are not allowed to make any comments that disagree with the moderators' opinions, even if they are documented facts.  



Big difference.  I'm sorry that your reasoning capacity is so small that you can't understand this salient point.  I hope that my explanation was sufficient for you to understand it now.  :roll:




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But you are allowed to insult people on this board.  I get it.
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« Reply #502 on: January 13, 2006, 02:14:00 PM »
yes, yes you got it. insults are allowed, provided it's mixed in amongst some reality intelligent discourse.
now you wouldn't be implying that you haven't insulted anyone, would you, Chump?
your a damn hoot.
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« Reply #503 on: January 13, 2006, 05:35:00 PM »
Word up.
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« Reply #504 on: January 13, 2006, 07:15:00 PM »
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"Well, this isn't Aften, this is somene else, and I warn anyone that sends there child to HLA, it will cause many more problems than you already have. It may say They deal with ADHD and ADD, but they just shove pills down your mouth, and if that doesn't work then you just get in trouble. I went there at 14, never cursed at an adult, never fought with anyone, never been restraigned, or anything like that. I had ADD, and they didn't even figure that out until right before I left. So the entire time I was getting in trouble, just like I would in a regular school, when they were supposed to be helping me. The lady that checked me in there had told me I was the most polite girl she had ever met. and I had heard that a lot before then. About 3 months later, I was exactly like everyone else there. Cursing at all the staff, Being restraigned, on restrictions all the time. I wanted to tell my parents how miserable I was, but my counselors would convince my parents that I just had a bad day or a bad week, or manipulate them to think other wise."


Can any HLA staff please help this young person to understand why they were treated so shabbily at your treatment center?  While you're at it, can you please answer a few questions that people have been asking you for the past few years that you have been refusing to answer?

Here's the first set, but I have more after you answer these, ok?  Thanks a lot.

Why does HLA allegedly allow people to work there after they've had sex with their minor patients?

Or why does HLA take court ordered kids but lie to parents and say they don't?

Or how exactly does HLA cure homosexuality?

Or how does millieu control benefit children?

Or why does HLA illegally use forced labor to improve the campus as punishment?

Or why does HLA strip search children when they tell parents they don't?

Or why does HLA use confrontation and call it group therapy?

Or why does HLA not have a contact for grievances in violation of its accreditation?

Or why does HLA use Lifespring large group awareness seminars that have been completely discredited over twenty years ago?

Or what are your credentials to comment on HLA's program or policy?

Or why does HLA illegally accept children in violation of the ICPC?




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« Reply #505 on: January 20, 2006, 12:45:00 PM »
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I dont know why they keep calling her Mrs Grey or Gray"


What do you call "her"?
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« Reply #506 on: January 20, 2006, 12:46:00 PM »
Oh this is just to fucking funny.
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« Reply #507 on: January 20, 2006, 12:50:00 PM »
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"Cows may come, and Cows may go, but the bull in this place goes on forever."


You got that right, Suzie.  You're the source of it!
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« Reply #508 on: January 27, 2006, 04:09:00 PM »
"Let me make this abundantly clear, I was fine before HLA I had nothing in my life with which I harmed either myself nor anyone around me including my family. I had no behavioral, emotional or sexual issues. I had no violent tendencies nor was I ever invloved in something illegal."

Hi RobertBruce,

You say that you didn't have any problems before you went to HLA, and I believe you.  I'm just curious, what did your parents/guardians perceive to be the problem, that made them send you to HLA?  If you don't feel comfortable telling me, that's okay.  I just can't believe a child would be sent to a place like this for no good reason - but of course, it sounds like Deborah's sons were sent away for no good reason.
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« Reply #509 on: January 27, 2006, 05:29:00 PM »
LM, if you read over some of the discussion in this forum and some of the others, you'll find a whole lot of debate right along the same lines as your question. Parents very frequently say, after the fact, that they only saw the glossy brochures and talked to entheusiastic parent support group members and they really and truely thought they were sending their kids to a strict, but wonderfully well appointed boarding school w/ therapy. Look at the way HLA describes markets itself in their web site:

http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/Counse ... grams.aspx

Looks like the perfect place for a kid who's not all that bad, but jepordizing a promising academic career or one who's not a criminal or a real danger to themselves or anyone, but just too much of a handful for regular school; the kind of kid who may need a firm hand and a little extra supervision.

That's how they sell it. And it's expensive and comes highly recomended by impressive people, so it must be good, right?

I think the best way to get an answer to your question is to try it yourself. Talk to the admissions people and to the edcons who place kids there. Describe a dangerous thug problem child and see what they say. Call back in a couple of days (or have someone else do it, they may be crazy but they ain't dumb) and describe a different kid, one who you know well doesn't need intensive, brutal reprograming, see what they say.

One of the worst in this industry (by some accounts, of course) was Elan in the `80's. In those days, they were taking foster care placements from Illanois and, I believe, other states. These were not ajudicated youths, but just kids who, for whatever reason, landed up in state custody and Elan cut them a deal to beat the usual costs of foster placement. They bit. There was one hell of a dustup and those state contracts went *poof*.

Of course, kids who really are in deep trouble and who do need some kind of guidance or therapy also land up in these places. In my opinion, they're so much more screwed than the ones who's prior behavior leaves them some credibility. They get the worst of it and no one but NO one will ever believe them. They're sitting ducks. It works the same way as a girl w/ a bad reputation trying to report a rape.

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