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« Reply #435 on: November 16, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
***As far as being a residential care facility, hla does not claim to be one

To whom? Certainly not parents. Google HLA and every single return will validate that they are, and always have been, a 'Therapeutic' facility- an RCF. This is a semanitcs argument. We all know what services they provide and that they should be monitored by the state. What we don't know is how they are avoiding it- who they've deceived or paid off.
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« Reply #436 on: November 16, 2005, 11:15:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-16 09:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"of course I won't take your word for it, you can not, nor have you proved anything. "


Like I said dont take my word for it call up the ORS for GA and the county registar and see for yourself.

While your at it since Bullfrog wanted to discuss it earlier call the health dept for Lumpkin Co and see what kind of scores the kitchen at HLA has had.

When can we expect you to look into those?
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« Reply #437 on: November 16, 2005, 11:21:00 PM »
Robert once again youre wrong about what posts are mine and what arent. The one you just quoted was not mine. And the last inspection rating I got on the school was a 94.
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« Reply #438 on: November 16, 2005, 11:25:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-16 10:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"http://rules.sos.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/page.cgi?g=DEPARTMENT_OF_HUMAN_RESOURCES%2Findex.html&d=1



Legal Authority:

O.C.G.A. Sec. 49-5-12

? Any bona fide boarding school whose primary purpose of admission is education, provided that such facility in order to claim exemption shall operate under a published academic educational curriculum which meets the requirements of the State Department of Education, shall have classroom facilities which are not used for residential living, shall not have been granted nor have assumed legal custody of children attending the facility, and shall not provide service planning and casework services as described in the licensing rules.





SACS: pg 47 of school directory acredited 2001



If you read the whole code, you might find that they are not required to have a license.

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Key phrase here "bona fide boarding school whose primary purpose of admission is education."

as is well known HLA is neither a bona fide boarding school nor is the primary purpose education.

Sorry but you cant get around that. It is a theraputic boarding school and the primary purpose is therapy. Thus they should be operating under state regulations for TBS.
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« Reply #439 on: November 16, 2005, 11:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-16 11:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"your welcome, if they are in violation, then there should be corrective action by the agencies involved.

As far as being a residential care facility, hla does not claim to be one, therefore they are exempt, no matter what the reality may seem to some people. Again, it would be up to the specific agency to investigate and make the decision as to what applies to hla. I know of at least one facility in ga, that even though it is licensed by the state, i would not send my dog to it. it make hla look like club med."


Interestingly enough HLA claimed up until recent events on there website to be a Theraputic Boarding School. It made that point very clear.

I guess we are making an impact after all.
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« Reply #440 on: November 16, 2005, 11:30:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-16 20:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Robert once again youre wrong about what posts are mine and what arent. The one you just quoted was not mine. And the last inspection rating I got on the school was a 94."


Bullfrog you need to get back into that adult literacy course. Maybe beef up those reading comprehension skills. I never claimed that post was yours.


Furthermore we had this conversation regarding the school cafeteria health score.

Yes they did earn a 97 on their inspection last spring. However that inspection was done as a follow up from a previous inspection in which they failed.

Had they not passed the one they earned the 97 on the cafeteria would have been shut down.

Again though call the health department and verify this claim.
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« Reply #441 on: November 17, 2005, 11:09:00 AM »
alot of angry  people put there.  heh.  I spent more time than any of you at that place.  Life goes on.  yeah it sucked and yeah that place needs to be shut down, but how about rather than fighting amongst yourselves, you try working together, hm?  Didn't RCI teach you anything (i went there 3 times)  rather than having pissing contests about who is right and wrong, try compiling a list fo the mis-deeds of hla and then methodically going through them, checking to see which ones are still valid and usable.  just a though there.  parents have called me and asked if they should send there own child there and i tell them the truth.  what life is really like there and its not all negative information.  But alot of it is due to the nature of the place and what it does to a persons mind.  anyway, peace.
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« Reply #442 on: November 17, 2005, 11:18:00 AM »
You are right and such cooperation and a list already exist.

What you see here is done primarly to dispell the propoganda of Buchi's stooges.
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« Reply #443 on: November 17, 2005, 11:21:00 AM »
you seem to one of the ones feeding it along
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« Reply #444 on: November 17, 2005, 12:04:00 PM »
Again its nessecary to dispell the propoganda spewed off by these puppets.

Unfortunate but nessecary to inform parents of the reality of the situation at HLA.
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« Reply #445 on: December 14, 2005, 01:22:00 PM »
Posted by a physician in another thread...

"My experience with Hidden Lake Academy was also distressing.

In my opinion, and the opinions of the six other physicians in my practice who followed my HLA misadventure with me, HLA is a predator whose prey is the horrified parents of disturbed teens. It is an institution of opportunity, bringing home its bottom line at the expense of the desperate, frazzled families it exploits.

By the time most parents are introduced to HLA, they've already been through a costly and demoralizing gauntlet of police stations, court appearances, counselor visits, psychiatric evaluations...even hospital visits.

To say they are desperate is an understatement. They are trying to keep their families from self-destructing. In most cases, the only option is turning the child out onto the streets: most insurance policies won't cover mental health care, and even if a family is lucky enough to have good coverage, it is limited to short, individual events. Deeply needed inpatient care is rarely an option for most of these families.

So even considering a modality such as a therapeutic boarding school is a true extravagance. Actually sending the student may mean mortgaging a home, selling it, or even bancruptcy.

Enter Hidden Lake and its ilk.

I was asked by the parents of a young teen to evaluate HLA by its Web site. What stood out to me even more than the philosophy that medical therapy was discouraged were the many typographical errors and careless mistakes on nearly every page of the site. While my own writing is not perfect, I am not registered as a boarding school, responsible for the education of children, presumably overflowing with teachers more than capable of proofreading the very materials provided to the public for the purpose of attracting business.

When I brought my concerns to the attention to the school, they were received with, well, less than warm gratitude. My comments to HLA were meant to be constructive. I was gracious and self-effacing in my original letter because the last thing I wanted was to offend the school. Clearly such niceties were a waste of effort.

Given that the parents are expected to pay upwards of seven thousand dollars per month for the privilege of sending their child to a therapeutic boarding school, I actually expected a minimum of civility. None was evident.

My credentials were questioned?this from an institution whose methods are questionable, at best, from a medical (and psychiatric, I might add) point of view.

Fast forward a few months...and imagine how surprised I was to come across the story of the parent in the previous posts. Am I shocked HLA will not send the child's transcripts? Nope. They demonstrated their pettiness, immaturity, and curious vindictiveness to me, a peer and potential referral base a long time ago. Was I surprised that personal belongings, including necessary daily medications, were sent COD?by ground? Actually, yes.

Not only did that shock me, it caused me to pick up the phone and discuss this gross mismanagement of a patient's medications with a malpractice attorney, who recommends HLA check to be sure their insurance premiums are paid.

To the parent: my suggestion is that you alert your attorney to your experience. Gather all proof of your allegations, including the boxes the personal effects were sent in, the COD receipt(s), the condition of any damaged items, a list of missing items, if any, and proof of payments made to HLA. Regardless of any contract signed (as a previous Anonymous poster cryptically stated), a minimum level of responsibility to the patient's health is required by ANY institution. That minimum includes making reasonable arrangements for the patient to have access to their medications. COD shipping by ground is not, by any standard, "reasonable."

So guess what, parent? You may be getting a sizeable percentage of the "investment" HLA coerced you to pay them right back into your pocket.

I'll be cheering for you from this sideline."

UNBIASED OUTSIDE OPINION BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL SAYS HLA IS "PREDATOR" VICTIMIZING PARENTS AND CHILDREN.  WAKE UP, PEOPLE.   :skull:
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« Reply #446 on: January 01, 2006, 01:29:00 PM »
bump it up now
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« Reply #447 on: January 02, 2006, 03:25:00 AM »
how many times is that thread going to be reposted? can whoever keeps posting it please spare everyone else the re-reading of it and STOP POSTING THE SAME SHIT!!! it's rather tedious and annoying...
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« Reply #448 on: January 02, 2006, 08:18:00 AM »
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"how many times is that thread going to be reposted? can whoever keeps posting it please spare everyone else the re-reading of it and STOP POSTING THE SAME SHIT!!! it's rather tedious and annoying..."


it's going to be posted and reposted until the questions are answered.  you can't censor this site so just deal with it.
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« Reply #449 on: January 02, 2006, 11:09:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-02 00:25:00, Anonymous wrote:

"how many times is that thread going to be reposted? can whoever keeps posting it please spare everyone else the re-reading of it and STOP POSTING THE SAME SHIT!!! it's rather tedious and annoying..."


If its annoying, here's a suggestion.  DON'T FUCKING READ IT. Pretty simple.  

I hadn't seen that post before so whoever reposted it, thanks!!  :smile:
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