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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2005, 12:51:00 PM »
It seems so simple. Why won't Sue Scheff and PURE just provide a list of the schools they refer to and let parents read about each of the schools and make a decision based on that information?
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
Kevin Ritchie (sp)a prior teeh help employee.
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2005, 01:44:00 PM »
I'd venture to guess at this point & say;

"Who would want a bunch of lunitics contacting your boss, co-workers or place of employment?"

Just a guess.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2005, 10:24:00 AM »
I'd want to KNOW FOR SURE if PURE is referring to any schools connected to WWASP.  After reading the other threads where it APPPEARS that Sue Scheff knows what is going on with WWASP and who WWASP is sueing, and all about WWASP's business....I'd be concerned about her connection to WWASP. Not guessing  she is doing business with them or anything; but something just seems strange about all that connection. I'd want to think she was on ISAC's side and supporting them...NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, and that wasn't the feeling I got, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2005, 11:38:00 AM »
I'd want to think she was on ISAC's side and supporting them...


Sure, up to the point the first Whitmore parent statement went up.  After that statement went up, ISAC became the enemy to be destroyed. Destroyed by any means possible.
No thought was given to writing a response; to apologizing for having mislead the parent or even to stopping the referrals to a possibly abusive program. There is, after all, ample reason for concern.
All suggestions from friends that she should consider these things, was met with shrill proclamations that she trusted the Suds absolutely; that the complaining parent was crazy, evil, a liar and ugly to boot.
ISAC would be hearing from lawyers.  
Lots of lawyers, apparently.
People who had dared to suggest she was wrong, soon found themselves under attack on this very forum; by some "unemployed newbie" who had Just Discovered this board, and these issues; although this "unemployed Newbie" had an awful lot of knowledge about who's who, even the wwasp lawyer's names.
My personal opinion, based on the timing of events; comments made; and who has what information; is that Susan is simply using what tools are available to her, in her vengeance against ISAC.
"We" know how much information flows to Susan about Bob, and where it comes from, how reliable it is, and why. I simply believe she reversed the flow, and sent information the other way. Or maybe she just gave Bob or Spence a call - who the hell knows what she might do? This is not the same as working with wwasp. It's more like using wwasp. What ever it takes; no holds barred; all fair in war; There are plenty of ways she can justify her actions; at least in her own mind.
My opinion, based on my experience, and current events, as I have perceived them.
Lee tells me he has Proof I am wrong. But he won't show me or even discribe it. Can't imagine why. I'd only be pleased and relieved if someone can prove my thinking on this is wrong.
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2005, 12:49:00 PM »
My husband and I made our statement to ISAC.
I would like to know upon what Sue Scheff would base her opinion that I am "crazy, evil, a liar, or ugly?"
I have never been diagnosed with any mental problems in my entire life.
I do not believe in any voo-doo things such as "good and evil" being applied to people. I do know that the Sudweeks at Whitmore use terms like this in their teachings to the children at Whitmore Academy. If one reads the postings on the Whitmore threads one can see that the Sudweeks' camp refers to anyone who disagrees with them as "EVIL"--and that includes any agencies, like the Attorney General's Office, the Nephi Police Department, etc. I would not think that Ms. Scheff is into anything like voo-doo, so I do not know what she would be basing any opinion of me as being "evil" upon.

I am not a liar. What my husband and I wrote in
our statement to ISAC is true.

ISAC also wrote an additional addendum to the statement, after Mark Sudweeks accused me of "throwing my daughter down a flight of stairs by the hair." Also a THIRD PARTY has been spreading this vicious lie about me also. Mark Sudweeks and this THIRD PARTY went so far as to say they were "reading about this incident of me abusing my daughter from a police report from the Nephi Police Dept."  Well...there was NO POLICE REPORT.  We asked  Officer Wright to produce a written "KEEP THE PEACE REPORT" which he did. We gave a copy to ISAC, and Officer Wright verified that I DID NOT in fact abuse my little girl in any way. In other words--Mark Sudweeks and this THIRD PARTY lied about me, period.
I do not LIE....but other people do LIE ABOUT ME in order to deflect from facts told in our statement to ISAC, I suppose.

As far as my physical appearance being "ugly." Sue Scheff has no idea what I look like. She has never seen me.  UNLESS she might have seen photographs of me that SOMEONE who hacked into my computer system shared with her. Maybe that is how she knows what I look like?????  The FBI will be letting us KNOW who hacked our computer very shortly.   Everyone gets to have their own opinion of what is pretty or what is "ugly," now don't they? I think I lean more towards me being pretty than "ugly," but maybe I have an inflated self-esteem problem.

People can probably judge for themselves rather soon, because I didn't buy into the blackmail of "SHUT YOUR MOUTH or we are going to post your sexy pictures all over the internet...."  So maybe Ginger Warbis can run a poll or something when the "blackmailer" posts some silly pictures of me that were made for my husband for Valentine's Day and everyone can vote:  Pretty?  Not Pretty?

We made our statement to ISAC.
We as parents do not deserve to have our privacy invaded by computer hackers, to be slandered, to be threatened by emails and telephone calls to our home, to be threatened by blackmailers--but it has happened.

We also do not deserve to have ANYONE repeating vicious gossip about us that this SOMEONE can not verify. It is unfair, unprofessional, and serves no purpose. It certainly serves no purpose for some THIRD PARTY to lie to others and say he/she is reading it from a non-existing police report just to make his/her lies about a mother appear to be more believeable. What a shame for ANYONE to stoop that low.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
Naw, Joyce, go to HotorNot.com!

You're at least a solid 6, which is high on that scale. Plus the milf-vote could pull it pretty high...  :grin:

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »
NOW it seems like Sue and PURE are attacking parents. Geezeee  what next?
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2005, 05:02:00 PM »
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"I'd want to think she was on ISAC's side and supporting them...



Lee tells me he has Proof I am wrong. But he won't show me or even discribe it. Can't imagine why. I'd only be pleased and relieved if someone can prove my thinking on this is wrong.

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I can imagine why?  You would be all over fornits and who knows where else with information you don't need to know.  Ever think of that?  Why would you be relieved and pleased?  You have trashed, bashed and convicted everyone prior to any evidence presentation or trial.  That's just my thinking and then there's this person you called a liar.  So why come on here expecting to get information from a liar?  Make up your mind,  WWJD
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2005, 07:28:00 PM »
//I can imagine why? You would be all over fornits and who knows where else with information you don't need to know. Ever think of that?//

If I am wrong in my opinion, and you can prove it, don't you think I need to see the proof? Might change my mind, if you did indeed have proof. Ever think of that? I don't think you have, or have seen any thing, remotely approaching Proof that I am wrong. I think if you had any such thing YOU would plaster it all over Fornits!
I have never yet plastered private letters on Fornits. It was YOU who brought up a private comment made in MY letter to YOU.

//Why would you be relieved and pleased? You have trashed, bashed and convicted everyone prior to any evidence presentation or trial. That's just my thinking//

I am not at all happy to face the fact I have once again been so fooled. I am not happy to feel a trusted friend could be so treacherous. If you can prove me wrong, I wish you would.
I have not trashed, bashed or convicted anyone. I do have opinions, that you are free to disagree with. If you can prove I'm wrong, I wish you would.


// and then there's this person you called a liar. So why come on here expecting to get information from a liar?//

I was very clear Lee, I have not generally experienced you to be a liar, but I think you have told me a lie. Why expect information? Because you told me you had it.


 //Make up your mind,//

I have. But if you can prove me wrong - Please Do!

// WWJD//

Many things. John tells us if all the events of His life were written down, the whole world could not contain the books. You might recall, at times, He was prone to calling lying hypocrites the sons of vipers. Blind leaders of the Blind. Thieves. He could be a pretty confrontational.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2005, 07:53:00 PM »
Hello, buzzkill, kz, karen or what ever your title is tonight.

and j said; "be silent!"
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2005, 08:20:00 PM »
OH..."be silent."   What does that  mean??????
Are we issuing warnings now?
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2005, 08:39:00 PM »
Where did He say that?

He stood silent before those condeming Him; but I can't recall Him saying "Be Silent!"

Maybe its in the gnostic gospels, but I don't consider them worth much.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2005, 08:46:00 PM »
Oh...we were quoting Jesus? Why can't you people just talk to each other? How silly.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2005, 11:21:00 PM »
Fuck that. Do you self-professed christians have a selective memory? Remembering only what supports your argument at any given moment?
He, if he existed and the tales are accurate, wasn't silent when he opposed oppression, when he turned over the tables in the temple.
He, imo and as the story goes, was silent when they crucified him because he had obtained an awareness some refer to as 'christ consciousness'. In other words, he had come to fully understand the human condition- fucked- and was able to predict how the masses would respond to his message of love and forgiveness, hence, "Father forgive them, they know not what they do". He knew he was going to die and that resisting it would do nothing to prevent it.
"Be silent"  Religious manipulation. There is a time to be silent and a time to scream loud and long, and a time for everything in between.
And you anon, are not in control of others, nor are you their judge and jury. We all got the same 'daddy' and I tend to think that daddy don't play favorites. Now isn't that special!
Perhaps you should heed your own words. Be silent if you don't have anything intelligent or relevant to add to the discussion.
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