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« Reply #135 on: January 31, 2005, 09:16:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-31 15:42:00, GregFL wrote:

"Okay, Im home from my office.



Here is the problem as I see it. Our 16 year in treatment "success"  DC sperm donor slams his kid in a rehab with a horrible reputation for abuse.



recent press....  http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2004- ... ature.html



he comes to this website, where people here personally know the founders of not only growing together, but the founders of the predecessor programs to this seed spinoff. In addition, to a man and woman we have had to "motivate" and endure all the other humiliations that his daughter is doing right as we speak. Maybe right now they are screaming in her face  and telling her how worthless and doomed she is without GT, swinging their arms wildly thru the air wishing for their turn to rip her teenage ego to shreds. Maybe they are talking about what a slut she was "on the streets".



Who knows?  Certainly not our sperm donor "success" we got posting here.



He ignores ex-staff and ex-client posting here about abuse and commonality of modality with Straight, Inc. but instead proceeds to do what people have been doing since the seed days...belittle and dismiss the charges of abuse and poke fun at people who endured abuse at the hands of these places, call their arguments ridiculous and bogus and laughable. Then he fakes indignant when people respond to being called idiots and in need of treatment.





my dad used to smugly say My sister and I needed our brains washed. Maybe you feel the same about your daughter. Maybe you just get off on the extreme control you now have over her life.





DC, what a schmuck you are. You come into our arena without an ounce of dignity or respect for the people here nor none apparently for your daughter being held captive. You obviously had closed your mind long before you ever posted the first word here.



 I pity your poor daughter and understand what she is going thru. One day when she asked why you did it you will be unable to claim ignorance. You have been duly warned. "
kinda sucks being in the minority huh?
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« Reply #136 on: January 31, 2005, 09:18:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-31 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-01-30 13:25:00, Anonymous wrote:




  It is my belief that the program "the steps" work IF you want them to and choose to apply them.  I choose to, and it's worked for me (like it or not).







Nope.  No program dogma here.  Nope. Not at all.


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What??  What works for you?  Dude, there's about 3 or 4 posts that you quoted in there.  Which one were you referring to?

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« Reply #137 on: January 31, 2005, 09:19:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-31 15:42:00, GregFL wrote:


"Okay, Im home from my office.





Here is the problem as I see it. Our 16 year in treatment "success"  DC sperm donor slams his kid in a rehab with a horrible reputation for abuse.





recent press....  http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2004- ... ature.html





he comes to this website, where people here personally know the founders of not only growing together, but the founders of the predecessor programs to this seed spinoff. In addition, to a man and woman we have had to "motivate" and endure all the other humiliations that his daughter is doing right as we speak. Maybe right now they are screaming in her face  and telling her how worthless and doomed she is without GT, swinging their arms wildly thru the air wishing for their turn to rip her teenage ego to shreds. Maybe they are talking about what a slut she was "on the streets".





Who knows?  Certainly not our sperm donor "success" we got posting here.





He ignores ex-staff and ex-client posting here about abuse and commonality of modality with Straight, Inc. but instead proceeds to do what people have been doing since the seed days...belittle and dismiss the charges of abuse and poke fun at people who endured abuse at the hands of these places, call their arguments ridiculous and bogus and laughable. Then he fakes indignant when people respond to being called idiots and in need of treatment.








my dad used to smugly say My sister and I needed our brains washed. Maybe you feel the same about your daughter. Maybe you just get off on the extreme control you now have over her life.








DC, what a schmuck you are. You come into our arena without an ounce of dignity or respect for the people here nor none apparently for your daughter being held captive. You obviously had closed your mind long before you ever posted the first word here.





 I pity your poor daughter and understand what she is going thru. One day when she asked why you did it you will be unable to claim ignorance. You have been duly warned. "

kinda sucks being in the minority huh?"


Again, WHAT??  This doesn't even make any sense.  What minority?

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« Reply #138 on: January 31, 2005, 09:23:00 PM »
i'm willing to bet that you wonderful and happy people are in the minority of people who went through a program and now have found it soooo reprehensible that you discuss it on a website...just my opinion.
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« Reply #139 on: January 31, 2005, 09:27:00 PM »
It is my belief that the program "the steps" work IF you want them to and choose to apply them. I choose to, and it's worked for me (like it or not).

 





Nope. No program dogma here. Nope. Not at all.

dogma shmogma...for some folks it made there life better.
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« Reply #140 on: January 31, 2005, 09:30:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-31 13:43:00, DC wrote:

"Ok, I guess the only reason you are posting is to try and aggravate me.  It will not work.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  

You have NO knowledge of adolecents and addiction nor do you understand anything about addiction.  Your posts show your ignorance.  For you to resent me for putting my daughter in GT is as stupid as anything anyone has ever said to me.  My life and my daughter's life have nothing to do with your excuses for being a failure.  I feel sorry for you."


  AMEN!  Most of these lost souls here have NO life, so they attempt to intrude on you and your's by being the KNOW IT ALL on "treatment, etc.  Ain't it SAD?!  Very unhealthy, LOST souls.
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« Reply #141 on: January 31, 2005, 09:32:00 PM »
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Nope. No program dogma here. Nope. Not at all.



dogma shmogma...for some folks it made there life better."


That's part of the problem.  You don't care how it "works" (not that I believe it does but for arguments sake).  You regurgitate the same shit they feed you day after day after day and have NO FUCKING CLUE as to the consequences.  Unfortunately at some point your daughter will find out what those are.  It's OK though, we'll be here when she needs us.

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« Reply #142 on: January 31, 2005, 09:46:00 PM »
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Nope. No program dogma here. Nope. Not at all.





dogma shmogma...for some folks it made there life better."




That's part of the problem.  You don't care how it "works" (not that I believe it does but for arguments sake).  You regurgitate the same shit they feed you day after day after day and have NO FUCKING CLUE as to the consequences.  Unfortunately at some point your daughter will find out what those are.  It's OK though, we'll be here when she needs us.

If God has spoken, why is the world not convinced?
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DC,,,the gloom and doom folks dont want you to know that it might work for your family...they really hate the way the treatment is given but hey it did work for me! although i still have a problem using the quote feature on the board that could be a result of the program...i'm not sure. :wave:
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« Reply #143 on: January 31, 2005, 09:50:00 PM »
Those of you "successful" people, who KNOW ALL programs are ABUSIVE and brainwashing cults... if the way in which you express yourselves says ANYTHING about you, well, I have ZERO respect for you or anything you have to say.
 GREG - your tasteless langauge, and need to "boost yourself" in your posts is a MAJOR turn off , and leads me to discredit most of what you say.
  I wouldn't brag about posting on this site for YEARS. Not exactly something to note on your resume.  Exactly WHAT has it accomplished (other than make YOU feel like you are some EXPERT)?
  DO you use the same attitude and language with your kids?  If so, I'm sure they're as  "successful" as you are.
  Funny how all these kids that were PLACED in a treatment center (their parents HAD reason), then couldn't cut it there, or managed to "survive" it, then suffer from PTSD and who knows what else.... THESE are the people I'm suppose to take advice from???  Or feel like they're out to HELP the children of the world??  (shaking head)
   GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!
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« Reply #144 on: January 31, 2005, 09:52:00 PM »
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[/quote]DC,,,the gloom and doom folks dont want you to know that it might work for your family...they really hate the way the treatment is given but hey it did work for me! although i still have a problem using the quote feature on the board that could be a result of the program...i'm not sure. :wave: "
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  ROFLMAO!!!!!!!  Me too!  And my typo's - by GOD, I think that all started because I was in one of these programs too!  Yeah --- THAT'S the ticket!!
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« Reply #145 on: January 31, 2005, 10:46:00 PM »
Words of wisdom from one guy that doesn't even know the program he was in was a theraputic community, and the other is in treatment for 16 years.

neither of you realize your precious Life and GT programs stole virtually all their techniques from a goofy cult where the "leader" was said to have a magical gift of "instant awareness" with the inductees working feverishly to gain this "gift".

Yep, you guys sure are bright! Thanks for graciously sharing your groundbreaking insights with us.

What would we do without your very unique perspectives and body of knowledge.

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« Reply #146 on: January 31, 2005, 10:48:00 PM »
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  Funny how all these kids that were PLACED in a treatment center (their parents HAD reason), then couldn't cut it there, or managed to "survive" it,


 90% of us graduated our respective programs in good standing. Many of us were on staff.

You really continue to paint yourself in a corner with all your incorrect suppositions.
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« Reply #147 on: January 31, 2005, 10:54:00 PM »
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  I wouldn't brag about posting on this site for YEARS. Not exactly something to note on your resume.  Exactly WHAT has it accomplished


You will never understand because you won't get the calls in the middle of the night or the letters, because you are too self absorbed to "get it".


Don't you need to go write a check to the torture's of your daughter? Maybe right now  as we speak she is getting some "come down on you" therapy.

Make sure the checks don't bounce...wouldn't want her to lose the precious "peer pressure therapy" she is getting by 16 year old high school drop outs.
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« Reply #148 on: February 01, 2005, 12:02:00 AM »
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"Ok, I guess the only reason you are posting is to try and aggravate me.  It will not work.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  


You have NO knowledge of adolecents and addiction nor do you understand anything about addiction.  Your posts show your ignorance.  For you to resent me for putting my daughter in GT is as stupid as anything anyone has ever said to me.  My life and my daughter's life have nothing to do with your excuses for being a failure.  I feel sorry for you."



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  AMEN!  Most of these lost souls here have NO life, so they attempt to intrude on you and your's by being the KNOW IT ALL on "treatment, etc.  Ain't it SAD?!  Very unhealthy, LOST souls."


What's sad is this theme keeps coming up: "You post here, you have no lives, you have no jobs, you have no _________"   And we keep asking you where you got this information, but you never answer, you just keep on going on about our sad, unhealthy lives.

Intrude on you?  This is a "Survivors Board. Many of us have survived and survived well.   Why don't you take your "get a life" attitude down to your local Synagogue and tell them Hitler was a hero?
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« Reply #149 on: February 01, 2005, 01:22:00 AM »
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"i'm willing to bet that you wonderful and happy people are in the minority of people who went through a program and now have found it soooo reprehensible that you discuss it on a website...just my opinion."


Really? How much and how do we prove it out? If you're willing to go w/ peer reviewed scientific study as a bet settler, I'll take that bet any day!

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