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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2005, 03:09:00 PM »
http://www.theStraights.com

covered Saturday's incident in Maderia Beach
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2005, 03:12:00 PM »
Does anyone know who the guys in the red truck were?
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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2005, 03:29:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-15 17:33:00, jehudrive wrote:

And the last thing is...you guys are invasive, disregard other people's privacy and property, you are self-pitying, and you need to refrain from coming into our quiet beach town and causing a tiff over an interpersonal matter that should have been dealt with a long time ago. Find a good psychiatrist, please!


There's obviously a lot you don't know, kid. A lot about life that you just don't understand yet and a lot of factual information that you simply have wrong.

Most of the kids in these programs were not addicts. Virgil didn't recently find religion, he started out as a Metodist minister (LOL!) Hard to imagine, I know. I landed up in Straight because Virgil misrepresented himself as some sort of medical professional when his 'doctorate' was in social anthropology out of a diploma mill in Ohio. Playing the part of the "doctor", Virgil lied to my father, telling him that he (Virgil) could tell by "telltale physiological signs" in my eyes that I had done coke and LOTS of it! Of course, this sealed it for my dad. He'd never seen coke any more than I had. But he knew it was bad business, for sure! So, for the next two years, Virgil and his merry band of sadistic lunatic followers tried everything imaginable to convince me that I was a coke head.

Those are just some of the facts that I can personally attest to. But it doesn't matter what has gone in the past, you're right about that. What matters is that you've got a neighbor who has so thoroughly pissed off so damned many people that, evidently, he can't hold prayer meetings in his house w/o causing one hell of a scene. I can't change this. You can't change this. Believe me, Virgil would change it if he could (he really doesn't like to think about the past) but he can't.

So what you're left with is that if this sadistic son of a bitch is going to try and establish a following yet again, you're likely to be annoyed pretty frequently by some of his former followers who will likely come around pretty frequently to remind everyone about that trouble past of Virgils. Oh, and did I mention that there are tens of thousands of them? This was no Mickey Mouse operation, kid. Straight had nearly 30 locations around the country over the course of almost 20 years. That's a whole bitch of a lot of bad karma!

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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2005, 03:51:00 PM »
Come to think of it, does this sound like any 17yo you might happen to meet at the mall or something?

I have to wonder (have to, it's a curse, I can't make it stop!) who the hell is this?

Anon, if you don't mind my asking, how much contact have you had w/ Virgil over the years? Are you really just a disinterested neighbor? Or are you, maybe, one of the Moss kids or something?

Curioser and curioser, isn't it?

Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2005, 03:53:00 PM »
In case any other survivors are interested in paying him a visit...

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?se ... L&zipcode=

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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2005, 03:55:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-16 12:51:00, Antigen wrote:

"Come to think of it, does this sound like any 17yo you might happen to meet at the mall or something?



I have to wonder (have to, it's a curse, I can't make it stop!) who the hell is this?



Anon, if you don't mind my asking, how much contact have you had w/ Virgil over the years? Are you really just a disinterested neighbor? Or are you, maybe, one of the Moss kids or something?



Curioser and curioser, isn't it?

Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
--Robert G. Ingersoll, American politician and lecturer


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Wonder if he was one of those kids who came to Newt's rescue in the red truck.
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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2005, 04:36:00 PM »
Uh... is it just me? Or are there no windows in that "chapel"?

You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own person and property, as long as you don't physically harm the person or property of a nonconsenting other.
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=PY7893&aid=10247' target='_new'>Peter McWilliams - Ain't Nobody's Business If I Do

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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »
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Wonder if he was one of those kids who came to Newt's rescue in the red truck."


Again, with the red truck! Ok, what's the story w/ the red truck?

To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a little better; whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is the meaning of success.
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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2005, 04:42:00 PM »
"The door knockers say Dr. Newton came out in a black bathrobe to check his mail when he discovered them knocking around whereupon he made a phone call and a red truck with two young men showed up.  The cops were right behind them. No arrests were made."

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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2005, 04:55:00 PM »
That doesn't tell us much. Did they stop? Get out? Have anything to say? I'm really curious now! Were these Moss kids? Anybody know? I'm wondering if they're recent inductees to the mini-groups that the Moss' are alledged to have been running for years now.

Anybody know anything? C'mon!

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« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2005, 05:01:00 PM »
I know, I know.  Believe me, I feel the same way.  I live in St. Pete and had no idea this was going on.  Wish I could have been there to give everyone the details.
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« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »
You goin' out for the Inaguration party? I dont' mean holding signs and chanting, but just go out and bring a camera?

Ministers say that they teach charity. That is natural. They live on hand-outs. All beggars teach that others should give.
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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2005, 07:05:00 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2005, 09:26:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-15 17:33:00, jehudrive wrote:

"Alright. I live right near the Newton residence. I live next door to the church.


So you're one of his new prodigys that he houses in that building next to the church and counsels on life etc.???????  That explains quite a bit.  I'm really sorry for you.  We'll be here when you need us a few years down the road.  Seriously.
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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2005, 07:47:00 AM »
No windows in the church that we are aware of.

The 2 men in the red truck pulled up on the grass next to umm us.. Asked one of us "What are you doing?" One was approximently mid to early twenties. The truck was older. When they confronted the one , the other was standing right there keeping an eye on them. They arrived within minutes of Newton going inside to call police.
Right after the red truck came the cops.

In my humble opinion, those in the red truck had the look and reminded me of the guys at the door in group. I even said that to the other individual.
Thats really all we can say cause that was about it.
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