From an attorney if it helps...

[Anonymous]

So attorney. . . how can you say what you do without knowing the "fullness" of the straight holocaust?   What do you know about the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1961-1968. What do you know or not, about colusion between government (state and federal) with the Straight, Inc corporation?  This racketering allowed  straight to remain up and running, despite the proven cases of child abuse, et al for over 17 years?  

Remember Trent Lott?   Big guy, now small guy.   Sembler will get his.   We will get our case heard.   I have watied 25+ years.  

The question is "where does the money come from"?  That known fact is soon to be revealed.  It is coming.

[Anonymous]

One more!!  It should be: "and I NOW live a pretty damn good life",  NOT "KNOW."   duh.

[Carmel]

On 2004-12-27 19:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am an attorney, and the reason no firms will take your case is because you are fighting a losing battle. It is absolutely hopeless. Yes, hopeless. And, Mel Sembler has much too much influence and power to ever be bothered my your alledged allegations.



The best thing you all can do for yourselves is give up and get over your troubles. I was in a similar program, Pathway Family Center, and if I would have held petty resentments against the program, I never would have made it through an undergraduate degree and law school.



Yes, bad things happened in Pathway, and even though Pathway is more recent than Straight, there is virtually no chance of any attorney winning in court. In regards to Straight, you have even less of a chance because of the years that have gone by. Also, Mel's son and grandson were both in similar programs, and Mel, using this fact to back up his testimony, will claim he did not know of the abuses that occured in Straigh or any other programs he may have been affiliated with, and he will claim that he would never have subjected his familiy to these abuses; the Judge WILL believe him...trust me.



In regards to prosecuting former staff members of your programs, you have to remember that they will claim you were all abusive, drug using, lying, irresponsible adolescents. They will claim that any "abuse" was used to necessarily restrain violent clients. The only possible way to get your programs, staff or administrators of programs into court would be if somebody died or had serious physical injury while in a program; and this injury/death must be within the last, oh, say 3 years to be safe. Surely no more than 5. I'm not sure what the statute of limitations is on abuses in your respective states, but the ones I'm familiar with are no more than 5-7 years. Claiming any kind of mental abuse is extremely hard to prove and will be a waste of money.



What happened to us is terrible, but you all need to move on. Don't let these programs ruin your lives anymore than they already have. Can't you see that you are doing yourselves no justice by sticking in this forum and bitching day in and day out? You are fighting a losing battle and wasting your lives. Move on and forget. Do something better with your lives.     "

Im glad you are all cool and stuff now because you have a wife and family and an electronic tollway pass....but, as far as I am concerned, if some woman can win millions for spilling hot coffee on HERSELF these days.....well, stranger things have happened.

Tell me you have never defended someone who was guilty, or helped to convict someone who was innocent?  I am willing to bet  your manager slippers and your wife's junior leauge cookbook that you have done both.  

When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor

[Anonymous]

On 2004-12-29 18:53:00, Carmel wrote:




Im glad you are all cool and stuff now because you have a wife and family and an electronic tollway pass....but, as far as I am concerned, if some woman can win millions for spilling hot coffee on HERSELF these days.....well, stranger things have happened.



Tell me you have never defended someone who was guilty, or helped to convict someone who was innocent?  I am willing to bet  your manager slippers and your wife's junior leauge cookbook that you have done both.  

Carmel, he's not represented anyone who was guilty or helped to convict someone who was innocent because he's not an attorney.....the guys a fake.  "Alledged allegations"....that still cracks me up. :lol:

[Anonymous]

Hey, ass. Why are you stick on the term "Alleged allegations?" These words are used together all of the time you fucking idiot. I think it's great how someone will post something semi-intellegent on this site, and everyone will take their turn pointing out stupid ass shit. I am a court reporter (yes, it is a crummy job), but I hear people use the phrase "alleged allegations" all of the time.

[Anonymous]

Animals, compared to this 'attorney' you surely must know you don't quite add up. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

On 2004-12-31 15:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I hear people use the phrase "alleged allegations" all of the time. "

Well then they would be idiots too.  Look up redundant in the dictionary.

[Antigen]

How about this. The guy is who he says he is; a fairly young lawyer. Still idealistic and out to make a big and lasting impression on the world w/ his relatively recently acquired degree and bar#.

All he said was that a lawsuit is not going to end w/ the Semblers on the front page in handcuffs on the way to take up residence next to Martha Stewart. And that's true. The Semblers could buy, sell and trade options on Mrs. Steward in a single day.

But that doesn't mean that 1) lawsuits are not worth pursuing or that 2) lawsuits are the only thing worth pursuing.

I don't see what everyone's all upset w/ each other about. We can discuss this if you want or not if it's uninteresting to you.

No worries
 :wave:

All I ask is equal freedom.  When it is denied, as it always is, I take it anyhow.
--H.L. Mencken

[Anonymous]

yes, all you idiots are arguing about a stupid phrase (which I have heard and one that would not fall under redundancy) instead of taking on anything the lawyer really said.

[Anonymous]

"Alleged" and "allegations" do not meant the same thing.

[Animals]

this is wrong.  we already understood what Anonymous Fake Attorney was saying.  Her composition was false.  The fake attorney's point is being faithfully crucified because the fake attorney can't even spell correctly or use accurate composition - that anyone is accustomed to by real life lawyers. Even the tense that she used was wrong, her whole demeanor in the first post was serious and not sarcastic, trying to analyze certain facts.  But the improper use of irony and accidental use of the terms 'alleged allegations' is just dumb on her part.

See the base word for each term: 'Legate'.  The words are no different but merely in adjective and noun usage, this being based purely on her form and style.

Indeed, its point seemed to be that we should all grow up and bla bla bla and that Sembler somehow is not still a child abuser. But it would be anything that hasn't already been written over a hundred times by those who are too scared to ID themselves or give any checkable, reliable references here.  Top that off with horrendous writing skills and you get the same trolls that I like to pool myself in with and vuala: more smarm and crap for the masses!

Final Grade: Z

[Anonymous]

Animals, you are not smart, but you are a loser, so keep your head up.

[Anonymous]

how cute, like a child with no name or family, for a loser to say to someone else when they can't even ID themselves.  Back your name calling up with a name, nutmouth.

[kpickle39]

You failed to answer my question about RICO.  RICO tolls the statute of limitations.   He is not untouchable.   We will have our day.  As I said earlier, I have waited 25 years (now 26 and a few days).  I won't have to wait much longer.   Thats a fact, ain't it Maria and Englander.  We will eat your lunch.   And at the next hearing, Maria, I will snap more and more pics of you.

[PerfectStraightling]

On 2004-12-31 16:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-12-31 15:37:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I hear people use the phrase "alleged allegations" all of the time. "

Well then they would be idiots too.  Look up redundant in the dictionary.  "

I guess it could be correct, if he were talking about allegations that he wasn't sure had been made. Alleged allegations. Or what about alleged allegations that were also alleged themselves???