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« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2004, 12:30:00 PM »
Wonder where they refer the parents who contact the Casa website. :???:
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« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2005, 02:26:00 AM »
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« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2005, 08:25:00 AM »
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"Wonder where they refer the parents who contact the Casa website. :???: "

Whichever WWASP facility has a place.  You can still find advertisements for Paradise Cove and Brightway Adolescent Hospital.
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« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2005, 04:56:00 AM »
Did I say I believed it? No. Until I say "Oh I believe you." don't ASSume. I'm simply gathering opinions. What's your's?
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« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2005, 08:33:00 AM »
Most of the kids from Casa were sent to Carolina Springs. Does anyone have any specific information on this school? A parent whose kids have attended? Previous "students?" good or bad comments welcomed, but please only stuff that is true, not just opinion.
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« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2005, 08:47:00 AM »
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"Did I say I believed it? No. Until I say "Oh I believe you." don't ASSume. I'm simply gathering opinions. What's your's?"


Who are you talking to??  Believed what?
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« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2005, 09:01:00 AM »
I was responding to Anon who was under the impression that I was believing everything that was said. I don't I just wanted to gather opinions/ideas/viewpoints/facts/hearesay on the whole subject of how corrupt WWASP is.
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« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2005, 09:37:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-12 05:33:00, chi3 wrote:

"Most of the kids from Casa were sent to Carolina Springs. Does anyone have any specific information on this school? A parent whose kids have attended? Previous "students?" good or bad comments welcomed, but please only stuff that is true, not just opinion."


Look here:
http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.html#csa

Also look at the WWASP Information Page in that site. And seach this forum-- there's plenty of info available.
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« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2005, 09:40:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-12 05:33:00, chi3 wrote:


"Most of the kids from Casa were sent to Carolina Springs. Does anyone have any specific information on this school? A parent whose kids have attended? Previous "students?" good or bad comments welcomed, but please only stuff that is true, not just opinion."




Look here:

http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.html#csa



Also look at the WWASP Information Page in that site. And seach this forum-- there's plenty of info available."


I have to give this caveat. There are real factual statements of things that have occured at WWASP facilities that were never an intentional part of the Program. I feel the operators are negligent in failing to notice that, no matter how many times this song and dance plays out, those "unintended" events seem to keep happening.

If you go looking around here, there are other (fairly obvious) accounts of things that never happened and are only told as parody. Sometimes it's hard to sort out. I have actually seen program supporters make apologies for saterical statements. That's telling! And really very funny if you spot it. But not particularly useful to you in your situatin. Understand that there is often a lot of resentment leftover from these programs and just pass that stuff by. It's largely inside jokes that you'll never get anyway.

The bottom line truth is that your daughter is somewhere out in Utah in the care of people who have made some pretty unbelievable promises, are taking all your money and who will not allow you to communicate with her. You should go in person and check up on her. Not just the guided tour of the facility, but you and your daughter alone, face to face, over ice cream in town. And ask around town while you're there. Sometimes the locals have a lot of insight.


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« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2005, 07:27:00 AM »
thanks ginger for the insight. as you can see i have posted on several other threads to continue to ask for real accounts from people who have been at CSA. CSA is in S.Carolina not Utah. I agree a visit and a sitdown away from the staff is warranted. Unfortunately, by doing so I tip my hand and am no longer able to get any help or answers from the people there until i get her out and make some new plans for her. to buck a rule and go see her is the same as saying you have no faith in the program. they will make it difficult for me and her, i fear. maybe not physically, but who knows what might happen? they are not open to compromise. i feel my best bet is to find out all i can, get my ducks in a row, have an alternate plan for her, and then just go get her.If anyone has actually been at CSA please let me know your experience!
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« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2005, 07:30:00 AM »
Oh my god. CSA is a facility of WWASP. I went to CCM and that as well is a facility of WWASP.
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« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2005, 09:22:00 AM »
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Unfortunately, by doing so I tip my hand and am no longer able to get any help or answers from the people there until i get her out and make some new plans for her. to buck a rule and go see her is the same as saying you have no faith in the program. they will make it difficult for me and her, i fear. maybe not physically, but who knows what might happen? they are not open to compromise.


Do you realize what they're doing? they are keeping you from seeing your own child by manipulating YOU into fearing what might happen if you break one of their rules. YOU ARE HER MOTHER. You have every right to see her, whenever you like. This policy of theirs is a HUGE red flag. Do the right thing and get her own immediately.
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« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2005, 06:38:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-14 04:27:00, chi3 wrote:

CSA is in S.Carolina not Utah.

My mistake, sorry. Honestly, it all runs together. I think the one in S. Carolina is Narvin Lichfield's facility, isn't it?

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I agree a visit and a sitdown away from the staff is warranted. Unfortunately, by doing so I tip my hand and am no longer able to get any help or answers from the people there until i get her out and make some new plans for her. to buck a rule and go see her is the same as saying you have no faith in the program. they will make it difficult for me and her, i fear.


See, that would be enough for me right there!

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
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« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2005, 08:26:00 PM »
Chi:I agree a visit and a sitdown away from the staff is warranted. Unfortunately, by doing so I tip my hand and am no longer able to get any help or answers from the people there until i get her out and make some new plans for her. to buck a rule and go see her is the same as saying you have no faith in the program. they will make it difficult for me and her, i fear.


Ginger:
See, that would be enough for me right there!

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Please Chi - pay attention to this. Ginger is right. This is a major red flag. I know exactly where you are coming from - been in exactly your same spot; but with a boy at Dundee; Knowing I was going to pull, but not wanting to make waves and so cause things to be more difficult.
There is a point when you realize the Program could become very adversarial and you actually have concerns it might be difficult to pull your own kid! To be fair, I had no such problem - but one is definitely aware of the potential for such problems - and as Ginger says - That in itself is cause for serious concern.
One other thing I want to point out - the Program is the Program, where ever it is. There is no difference between how the program operates in Carolina Springs and Spring Creek Lodge or Ivy Ridge or any of the many others. The one exception might be Tranquility Bay - which is extra horrible by all accounts - but the program its self is exactly the same even there.
I do know people who have had daughters in Carolina Springs. They don't read the forums - but they are out there. If you want to write me, I can try and put you in touch with them.
But really, you have all the info you need. CSA is just the same as the rest.

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« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2005, 01:09:00 AM »
no one wants to listen to your ignorance
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