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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2004, 05:30:00 PM »
ANONYMOUS - THE PROGRAMS GIVE NO SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY DO AT ALL.

The only specifics are from the testimony of the people in there who had something BAD to say. that says something.

When theres a mystery about their treatment and accusations of abuse, I tend to question it and want to find out the truth. Well, because all I Get is the standard secrecy and generalities, guess what?

I GO WITH THE ONLY SPECIFICS I HEAR!

When we are pleading with foreign governments to stop the flow of cocaine, it is the height of hypocrisy for the US to export tobacco.  Years from now, our nation will look back on this application of free trade policy and find it scandalous.

1989 testimony before the US Trade Representative,September 1989
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2004, 06:13:00 PM »
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.---Edmund Burke
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2004, 05:06:00 AM »
Full of it huh? No not at all. Did I ever say that they should not be held "accountable"? No, things in life happen that are cruel. My heart goes out to the ones that were abused. However, I refuse to give in to your crappy thoughts. The only thing I'm full of is your annoying disdainful thoughts. WWASP never claims to be a complete absolution. If a child comes home and shoots themselves is not the program's fault.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2004, 08:05:00 AM »
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" WWASP never claims to be a complete absolution. "


I beg to differ.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2004, 10:14:00 AM »
It *IS* the fault of the program when they enroll teens with any mental illness issue; because the program is grossly inappropriate for a mentally ill person. The nature of the Program; the depravation; hunger; isolation; brutality and over all neglect, will all complicate and worsen most any mental disorder you can name.
Certainly, isn't going to do a suicidal teen any good. I do personally believe you Can blame the program when one of its "students" comes out and then kills themselves. I do believe it IS the Predicable effect of sending an emotionally fragile person into such an environment.
It is an outrage that the program enrolls these kids.
It is an outrage that a Program like this can even exist, as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2004, 10:58:00 AM »
Anon,

I beg to differ. Do you really think Christopher Landre shot himself because he had'nt a chance do Graduate the Program? No it was because his parents were planning on returning him to Paradise Cove.  Have you ever talked to a kid who had been at Paradise Cove? Dont try and tell me Paradise Cove wasnt a WWASP Program. I have read the book Island Apart.

Then the parents have made a fortune off of the kid's misery. Sick sick sick. May God forgive them.
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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2004, 03:49:00 PM »
Yanno I've yet to see evidence of WWASPS doing jack shit except locking you up, treating you like dirt, and letting you out after you conformed or your parents ran out of money. Whats the amazing therapy and 'growth' and all that other bubbly potpourri-smelling bullshit? Huh? I see the general terms but I dont see them DOING it!

Merry fucking Christmas Perrigaud.

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CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2004, 05:42:00 PM »
You haven't "seen" evidence?  Where have you looked besides the internet?  Any personal up close and personal face to face?
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2004, 07:19:00 PM »
If you mean them acting normal after getting out, that doesnt mean shit. That means they survived it.

If you mean asking them for what they did, they never, ever tell anything. I was told they were sworn to secrecy in those seminars.

HHHMMMMMMMMM why am I so suspicious? Oh, like I already said, NO FACTS ABOUT THE 'THERAPY'

Stop repeating the same shit.

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CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2004, 03:15:00 AM »
Merry Christmas to you too!!! Youre such a happy person. Proof? I got my proof. I'm successful, happy, and hard working. Now, the only "sworn to secrecy" part was that we weren't to talk about what happened with anyone that hadn't been in the seminar WITHIN THE PROGRAM.
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2004, 03:17:00 AM »
Oh and it's not survival. It's called rising to the occassion that was presented. Again, there were some survivors. But not all so stop generalizing.

HAPPY NEW YEAR AS WELL N!  :grin:  [ This Message was edited by: Perrigaud on 2004-12-24 00:18 ]
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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2004, 04:32:00 PM »
*sigh* Are you dense or just trying to annoy me?

What. Did. They. DO. To. Make. You. "Successfull, happy, and hardworking"?

Clear enough for you?

*groans* Also, not only has that not been shown, but  really, nothing is said about what goes on in there at all except by those with something bad to say. How many times have I said this? How many times have other people said it?

Oh, and the seminar secrecy bullshit so they get shocked is yet another complaint I have. Its utterly ridiculous. And guess what? That wwasps kid I talked to would not tell me - and I'm an adult, so I'm definitely not in the program. You gonna share with us what the seminars did? And causing a break down and scaring you into submission doesn't count as therapy!

And yet again, I will repeat, AGAIN, that coallation is not causation. What has the program shown it actually did to make you any way at all? You complain abuot generalizing but I've yet to get detailed ANYTHING!!!

 

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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2004, 01:45:00 AM »
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"Oh and it's not survival. It's called rising to the occassion that was presented. Again, there were some survivors. But not all so stop generalizing.



HAPPY NEW YEAR AS WELL N!  :grin:  [ This Message was edited by: Perrigaud on 2004-12-24 00:18 ]"


You talk about rising to the occasion, but you failed to do just that. You were being made to doubt you own judgement, your own view on life, and your own beliefs. You didn't rise to the occasion, you simply surrendered, and took in their belief system instead of your own.

I am not accusing you here. I pity you. I am sure you were a great kid before you were "re-wired", and I hope you'll snap out of it someday. Your posts are so sad. I can imagine how much you must have suffered before they made you believe that what they're doing to you and to others is necessary and good and that you deserve it. And now you post in their defense. This is so sad.
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2004, 05:38:00 AM »
Yeah great kid. Snap out of what? You people have no idea what kind of person I was. Save your pity for someone who really wants it. No I wasn't a great kid. I was dead inside. I didn't care about anyone or anything. I was that girl in school that went around taking out her anger physically on whomever I felt like it. I was not raised to be this way. I was full of hate. I was dangerous and I've got the permanent record to prove it. The program itself didn't change me. It was more of a decision I made. I was tired of being abusive. Deep down I knew the whole time the harm I inflicted on others as well as myself.
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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2004, 05:43:00 AM »
Dense? No. Try adament. I'll gladly answer any question you have to offer. I'll give you both the positive and negative. I'm sure you'll have a fit with all that I'll tell you. But I'd rather you have all the facts. Go ahead. Ask away. You of all people should know that in this life one is not remembered for all the "good" things they do rather they are remembered for every "bad" thing they do. It's easy to focus on the negative. Nihilanthic, it's not that I don't respect your opinions. It's more of me being frustrated with your lack of complete knowledge on this subject. I'm not calling you stupid. I'm saying that you have all the "bad" information with a twist of dramatization.
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