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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 10:34:00 AM »
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74 American kids found in Mexico schools
12/10/2004, 12:20 a.m. ET
By MARK STEVENSON
The Associated Press    

MEXICO CITY (AP) ? Mexican authorities took custody of 74 American youths who were attending two irregularly operated boarding schools and returned them to the United States on Thursday.

The youths, who were found to be in Mexico without proper travel or residency documents, were handed over to U.S. consular officials and then taken to Los Angeles, the Interior Department, which oversees migratory issues, said in a press statement.

The statement bore the title: "The immigration institute rescues 74 U.S. youths with supposed behavioral problems." U.S. consular authorities were not immediately available for comment on the whereabouts of the students.

The Interior Department said the schools ? which it identified as the "The Mission" school in Ensenada, Baja California, and the "Abundant Life Academy" in the town of Chapala in Jalisco state ? were raided because they "did not comply with sanitary regulations."

"It is important to stress that none of the raids involved violence, and the human rights and personal safety of the youths were fully respected," the Interior Department press statement said.

Immigration agents found 57 students at the Ensenada facility and 17 in Chapala. Mexican authorities identified the schools as facilities for children "with behavior problems."

An Abundant Life Web site described the Abundant Life Academy at Lake Chapala as "the answer for the gifted yet immature American troubled teen that is unmotivated and rebellious toward parental authority."

The slogan of the facility is "Jesus is the only answer," and says the academy "is essentially a school for students who need to get back on track, to mature emotionally and spiritually, and learn that they are not the center of the universe."

Chapala is a lakeside community about 230 miles west of Mexico City popular among U.S. expatriates and retirees.

Some schools in Ensenada, meanwhile, have had a history of problems.

In September, a lack of qualified doctors and reports that some teens were being abused prompted Mexican authorities to shut down three centers for troubled youths in Baja California.

Mexican officials sent home 564 U.S. teenagers found at the Casa by the Sea and Casa de la Esperanza schools in Ensenada, on the Pacific coast about 60 miles south of San Diego, California, after authorities found no qualified medical personnel worked at the schools and no records were being kept on the teenagers.

At the same time, about 26 teenagers from the Genesis center in Rosarito, about 15 miles south of the U.S. border ? were also sent home after Mexican immigration and health authorities carried out a surprise inspection.

All 590 teenagers did not have proper paperwork to be in Mexico.

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2004, 11:45:00 AM »
Well, gee, Craig, I guess Paige did the right thing in getting Amanda home early.

Because right now, *Amanda* is in school, going to church, and basically has a stable life----while all these other kids where you guys apparently broke Mexico's immigration laws are all topsy-turvy and have to try to get their lives organized and into new schools right before Christmas.

The really *good* thing about all this is not only that the kids are home, but that they'll probably all be home for Christmas.

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2004, 06:24:00 PM »
I used to go to one of the schools that was closed down in mexico.

I am so glad mexico is starting to crack down on these types of schools.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2004, 06:00:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-10 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well, gee, Craig, I guess Paige did the right thing in getting Amanda home early.



Because right now, *Amanda* is in school, going to church, and basically has a stable life----while all these other kids where you guys apparently broke Mexico's immigration laws are all topsy-turvy and have to try to get their lives organized and into new schools right before Christmas.



The really *good* thing about all this is not only that the kids are home, but that they'll probably all be home for Christmas.



Timoclea"



FYI - Paige did not get *Amanda* home from Mexico.  Amanda was illegally kidnapped from Utah.  It is interesting that you keep beating on the school, yet commending Paige for breaking laws here in the state.

Paige did not do anything that God did not allow, so please stop exaulting her as some sort of savior.  It is truly sickening.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2004, 11:41:00 AM »
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On 2004-12-10 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Well, gee, Craig, I guess Paige did the right thing in getting Amanda home early.





Because right now, *Amanda* is in school, going to church, and basically has a stable life----while all these other kids where you guys apparently broke Mexico's immigration laws are all topsy-turvy and have to try to get their lives organized and into new schools right before Christmas.





The really *good* thing about all this is not only that the kids are home, but that they'll probably all be home for Christmas.





Timoclea"






FYI - Paige did not get *Amanda* home from Mexico.  Amanda was illegally kidnapped from Utah.  It is interesting that you keep beating on the school, yet commending Paige for breaking laws here in the state.



Paige did not do anything that God did not allow, so please stop exaulting her as some sort of savior.  It is truly sickening.



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Oh *really*?  *Kidnapped*, was she?

That's funny, I don't hear *Amanda* complaining.

But if she *really* was kidnapped, why don't you call the FBI?  I hear they're really harsh on that whole kidnapping thing----Oh, wait, you can't---because maybe you're *lying through your teeth* and the law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction don't find it to be kidnapping at all.

How very Christian of you.

God "let" Mother Theresa minister to the poor and Mullah Omar lock innocent women in small room with contagious tuberculosis carriers, too.  Doesn't mean there isn't quite a moral difference between their respective behaviors.

Time will tell.  In ten years, which of us will *Amanda* think was sickening?  Bet it won't be me.

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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2004, 11:45:00 AM »
(Still, Amanda, sorry to keep you out there as a cause celebre when you probably just want to get on with your life.  I should have figured *before* I mentioned it what the reply from one of the obscene religious fanatics would be like.  Sorry.)

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2004, 05:04:00 PM »
My goodness, this is the first time I have been on here for quite awhile. It is nice to know that some things never change and then on the other hand it is nice to know that the problems with ALA and facilities such as this are  finally being addressed.

Amanda is doing well and I find it interesting that some people still say that I kidnapped her considering the FBI has never contacted any of us and we did notify the authorities in accordance with the law at the time that she chose to leave the facility.
This is a prime example of many peoples ignorance when it comes to legal situations and they may be able to spout scripture but they sure don't know our Constitution or anything about individuals rights. This could be another justification for the division between church and state.

Well anyway no one was kidnapped. The Attorneys say her departure wasn't kidnapping and the authorities say it wasn't kidnapping so get a grip and figure out this is one topic you apparently know nothing about. By the way don't you think that the FBI would have been to visit us if it was kidanpping?? Haven't seen them and she has been with me since August of this year.

I did try to open a line of communications with her parents on more than one occassion - they did not respond. I requested medical information from them - they refused. I requested medical Insurance information since she was in need of seeing a doctor from an injury sustained in Mexico - they replied with an attorney stating that they would not give me a medical release or any information about the insurance. So I took care of all of it myself. She has seen a doctor and is doing well now.

Her parents are still collecting the Survivor benefits from her biological fathers death from Social Security  (which by the way is illegal since she no longer lives with them) but Social Security is looking into that as we speak. The minister of the church she was raised in has told her that her parents just want to forget her and go on with their lives. That is OK if that is what they want to do but they are still collecting and have collected a substantial amount of money that does not belong to them. This will be addressed.
 
I have her enrolled in a junior college. She will be starting in January. Her math and reading were so poor that she is basically having to start with Arithmetic and take some basic reading classes before she can take any accredited classes. That doesn't say much for the education they were supposed to be giving her. But she is looking forward to going to this school and getting the education that she want s and deserves.

As for the raid, apparently they don't know about the other locations for ALA in Mexico. I think it is time for someone to let the authorities know where they are. That is another issue to be addressed another day.
Right now it is Holiday Season and we want to wish for all of you a Happy and Wonderful Christmas with your families and friends.

This will be the first Christmas in 10 years that Amanda and her brother will be able to spend together. God has truly blessed us with this.

Happy Holidays..... We will cetainly be having the best Christmas we have had in years we hope that all of you will also.

Paige
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2004, 05:17:00 PM »
FYI - Paige did not get *Amanda* home from Mexico.  Amanda was illegally kidnapped from Utah.  It is interesting that you keep beating on the school, yet commending Paige for breaking laws here in the state.



Paige did not do anything that God did not allow, so please stop exaulting her as some sort of savior.  It is truly sickening.



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You are quite correct in one avenue. God directed me to Amanda and nothing was done without Gods Blessings. I don't think anyone considers me to be a savior since there is only one true savior - our Lord Jesus Christ. However I am one of those people that when I am called upon by God to do something that others may not agree with - I have the faith and strength to do what God has asked of me.

I'm sure this will stir up a hornets nest.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2004, 11:53:00 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2004, 10:38:00 AM »
Looks like that post shut everything down.

Bravo
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2004, 11:09:00 PM »
What law was allegedly broken when Paige gave Amanda a lift out of Utah? And if a law were broken and the family and friends are upset about it, why isn't the DA pressing charges?

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2004, 02:31:00 AM »
So is ALA forever closed?
If so kismet has concured.
Yes we were low on stuff like toilet paper,
medical assistance, and when we asked for medical assistance they took weeks to a month to finally react. Even if the sickness was terribly dangerous. I was there when the federalis took a teacher Marie, a student named Steve, Lee, Matt, and Josh were tooken to Mexican Jail. I was split up with a group of five in a different house formed into two different PPC's. House 1 the original with 9 students, then House 2 with 5. Meanwhile when federalis were looking for visa's House 2 was given order to hide in the back of the house where they couldnt see us. They stayed in that jail for almost a week and were transported by bus to a different location. Roger claims since Matt's dad was a big man of law he helped out to get custody back into the programs hands then sent them to Utah. All of them were sent home except for Josh and Matt. Josh was sent back to Mexico in Ajijic. MAtt stayed in Utah. The boys moved around into three different homes as the population started growing. When in Talachichilco things were alright then until the good american staff were either fired or bailed. At first we had service role for example "Wheaties Man" (The Chef) This role would cook breakfast and luch. But there was a hired cook that cooked dinner. Her name was Concha. She also had her daughter assist her. When the cooks were sick they would still cook. Finally when they thought they were getting everything settled they purchased property dor a school where we could go do school work. Then they hired "professional cooks" that cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The kitchen they cooked in was not sanitary. Where we ate in the cafeteria was always a swarm of flies. Sometimes we would find a fly in our hot suace or soup etc. People started getting really sick. When terribly sick they would make the sick ones sleep on the office instead of letting them rest in their beds. Sometimes there was over 7 people sick that would lounge in the office. No body hardly ever did there school work. There was no safe place for any important items, like school work or neccesities regarding hygiene would end up missing. My labtop with a book I was writing on it was stolen, and never returned. Lots of people that went to this program would agree with what I'm saying 95% of the students left with not even half of thier belongings that went through inventory were returned home. Anywayz way to much to say.
Gotta go!
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