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« Reply #300 on: February 13, 2005, 02:07:00 AM »
You're exactly right about the Christmas thing. Not even the root beer they were promised, the boys anyway. Thanks a-lot Mr Jake you f..... prick. Go back a few pages and read the accounts from Cadet Ramirez-Julia and Cadet Regulatario if you want to know first hand what goes on in that hell hole and what happened to the Reyes boy. Yeah I mean the unsensored version, not oh the poor thing died of a spider bite version but what really happened to the poor kid and how he died. And for all you people who don't believe it just get your heads out of your asses for a minute and think about the similarities of all the kids stories and how at Thayer they aren't allowed to have personal conversations with each other so tell me how in the freakin hell do these kids come up with the same shit over and over again. Oh that's right there's a little fly that buzzes around and tells each kid what to say. I don't think so. Show up at there door unannounced and there's a 1% chance it won't be locked and if it's not walk in and just see what goes on for yourself. I dare you. If you can afford the program than you must have the money to just fly out there and check it out. I bet you don't get invited in. The place is full of dirty little secrets and if Missouri was a civilized state they'd go raid the place and have laws to back them up. But no. If they did that the Bundys would probably sue them and I laugh when I say this they would probably win. How dare you try to stop us from abusing and killing these difiant little heathens. That'll be $1,000,000.00 please. I'm sorry but I almost think that Missouri is a bigger joke than Thayer. I mean really. Picture this. John and Willa sitting around the table trying to figure out where they can find a place to open a program to torture, mame and even kill defiant teens and get away with it. Oh yeah! I almost forgot. They also need to rake in a cool $4,000.00 a month. A few kids get to go for free of course. Every good program has a scholarship program. Well anyway I don't suppose it took a whole lot of genious to figure out that a deserted part of Missouri would be the perfect place. Why the hell not Old Willa Babe. Theres no laws to protect kids from our savage program we have planned out there in that old backwards state called Missouri. And besides we'll make millions before anybody catches on to what we're doing to their kids and by then who cares we'll be rich. Well all you parents out ther who don't want to believe the kids then do me a favor and read the enrollment agreement before you send your kid there. They think that they're covering there ass every way there is to cover it. Thayer claims that they aren't responsible for what their staff may do to your child i.e. abuse or sexual or however you wish to interpret this bullshit.Just read all the fine print please and do so before you send your child because if you wait and then change your mind after the fact GOOD LUCK getting back the over $50,000. you've borrowed to pay for this place called TLC. Parent Help will of course have talked you into sending your child off right away before they run away or end up dead so normally you will get this handbook well after your child is in the program. And of course they will have frightened you into believing that teen transport is the best way to get your child there. They're also owned by the Bundys. Talk about money hand over fist. I'm sorry if I'm a little sarcastic but it's a little bit hard for me to believe that people know what's going on and still leave their kids there. Oh yeah! That's right! the Bundys say it's a wonderful program so it must be. BULL SHIT. They say that they will turn your kids around. What they'll really do is beat an terrify them into submission and if that doesn't work ,well, they'll simply kill them like they did the Reyes boy. Don't be surprised if you do decide to go rescue your kid if they have a few bruises or broken bones. From what I hear this is pretty normal but of course they left that little ditty out of their hand book. Well i've vented enoughanger for tonight. And if you happen to be from Missouri and are reading this I'm truely sorry if I offended you but I'm firm in my beliefs and Missouri has to be backwards or this crap wouldn't be going on. One more for the road. The bundys claim to be a non denominational christian program. BULL SHIT! They're Mormons. I guess that's O.K. but don't damn lie about it just because you know that would turn a lot of people away. I'm done. Good Night.
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« Reply #301 on: February 13, 2005, 10:51:00 AM »
http://www.caldwellcountymissouri.com/C ... mation.htm
Our dedicated workforce is both loyal and productive. Most of them have been raised on farms so they have learned to work hard and long hours. Our taxes are low. Our work ethics are second to none. We care about our existing employers and help in any way we can to make their business experience here as profitable as possible!!

http://www.caldwellcountymissouri.com/C ... istory.htm
Native Missourians response to Mormons

http://www.caldwellcountymissouri.com/C ... %20See.htm
Kidder Institute aka Thayer College
In 1995, after sitting vacant for many years, David McEwen from Salt Lake City, Utah purchased the building and campus. Restoration work began on some of the buildings to bring back some of the original splendor and purpose. On September 15, 2002 Mr. McEwen sold the building and 20 acres to John and Willa Bundy and history will repeat itself. The Bundy?s are going to open the school again as the ?Thayer Learning Center?. They selected the name because of the history and the acronym TLC which means ?Tender Loving Care?. The new school will house youth from ages 11-18 from all over the country. The private school will be a non-denominational Christian based school that will create over 50 jobs initially. The emphasis of the training will be ?Love of Country and of God?. The youth will be trained in personal responsibility and how to be a ?whole person in the world?. The present building will be used initially as a dormitory and school and eventually plans are to construct a new dormitory facility adjacent to the school.
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« Reply #302 on: February 13, 2005, 11:38:00 AM »
What is all that suppose to mean ?????

Not a thing !!!!
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« Reply #303 on: February 13, 2005, 03:35:00 PM »
Sinse you're so proud of your state and seem to stand behind TLC why don't whoever you are put your kid there? Yeah! I doubt that'll ever happen. And just for the record TLC stands for Trecherous Living Conditions not Tender Loving Care. At least as far as Thayer is concerned. Once again sorry for insulting your state but the truth is the truth. Missouri could but does not protect teens from whatever Thayer and other programs like them do to them. Those of us from states that actually do have laws and regulations to protect people have no clue when they send there kid to Missouri that all bets I mean laws are off. Anything goes. Even Murder. Shit, These kids would be better off in Mexico. Yes, I did say Mexico the 2nd world country which lies right below the U.S.A. Well they had all 4 programs for teens, one of them a wwasp program called Casa BY The SEA shut down by Mexican authorities for child abuse. And the wwasp program in Costa Rica, another 2nd or 3rd world country was shut down for abuse by local authorities. What the hell. These poor countries need the jobs and money that the programs generate more than anybody but not at the cost of teens being abused even if they are Americans they're not having it. Hurray for them. They have some integrity and values that money can't buy. So once again not to insult anybody but where the hell is the integrity and values in Missouri? If you live there than help do something to change these laws that don't protect children so you can be proud of your state and yourself. At this point Missouri is no better than a 3rd world country where teens are concerned. And I don't know if anybody realizes it or not but most of these programs take children as young as 11 years old. Thayer claims on the internet to be one of them. I pray that this isn't true because any 11 year old that I know of needs play therapy if they're screwed up not TLC {Trecherous Living Conditions} They've already had that or they wouldn't be screwed up at age 11. I'm not insulting any parents by saying this. I'm only saying that anything could happen to a kid in 11 years and sometimes beyond a parents control i.e. death in the family, molested by a priest or school teacher or whatever but Thayer can't help with this. I'm done.
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« Reply #304 on: February 13, 2005, 05:40:00 PM »
The same is true for Utah, Idaho, Montana, Texas and several others that are home to many of these programs.  It's awful what happened to this boy who should not have died.  This program should be shut down - I've heard terrible things about it.  Are the Bundys really Mormon?  I wonder if they are associated with WWASP or some of the other Utah based programs.....
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« Reply #305 on: February 13, 2005, 06:42:00 PM »
They absolutely are associated with wwasp. They share an office in Utah. The Bundys used to work for wwasp before they branched off on there own. And yes they are Mormons. Absolutely they are. Call and ask them. I don't think they'd lie about that they just won't advertise it either. The Bundys share an office with the wwasp headquarters in St. George utah if I'm not mistaken. I randomly called a mormon church in St. George one time to tell them about Thayer and the lady who answered the phone had known John Bundy for years. It was somewhat of a trip to just make a phone call and get somebody who knew exactly who I was talking about. She didn't know a thing about Thayer though. Mormons are a tight community of people and to be honest with you other than that I don't know much more about them.
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« Reply #306 on: February 13, 2005, 08:36:00 PM »
It seems that all of these programs have so much in commom - Thayer, Provo Canyon School and the WWASP network - apparently they are connected and use similar punishments and techniques of mind control. They also deny children of appropriate medical care to prevent them from telling anyone outside of the facility about the abuse they both witness and experience.  This is often the case. Sadly this is what happened to this boy - whose life could have been spared.[ This Message was edited by: cherish wisdom on 2005-02-13 17:37 ]
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« Reply #307 on: February 13, 2005, 11:53:00 PM »
The history of most programs can be found at struggling teens. Rather than focusing on the program, notice the players, how they move around, which program(s) they were involved with prior to opening their own, who were their mentors?

They are all more alike than different with slightly unique twists on things.

For instance, one program that desired to set itself apart from the bad boys out west, still hired a CEDU man as headmaster. The program has many elements and methods of CEDU, but not all.
One program owner worked at two very abusive programs where deaths had ocurred before opening his own program. Ironically, his program was closed due to a death.

They're all sordid branches of the same tree with a common root. This becomes clearer as one compares the lingo and methods used. Like one big happy incestuous family.

Apparently Willa concocted her own method, posted in another thread, but also uses the militaristic approach which is as old as the hills. They're a breed unto themselves and most 'respectable' programs desperately attempt to distinquish themselves from the low-life boot camps.  

Still, when the day is done... they are all more alike than different. Some more savvy about keeping the abuse overt and/or soft on the physical abuse but heavy on the mind f'in.

They've all figured out how to drive a wedge between parent and child, while preaching 'family healing' and 'reunion'. And keeping that wedge there for them maximum lenght of time- some even suggesting boarding environments post 'graduation'- to decrease attrition and maximize profits. Would prefer to keep mommy and daddy's illusion of change in tact. You have to give it to them, its quiet an awesome business plan.
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« Reply #308 on: February 14, 2005, 10:25:00 AM »
what you said about visitation is absolutely true.  I showed up unannounced to pull my son from the program and, low and behold, all the doors were locked (of course, it wasnt this way the day we dropped off our son and $50,000).  When they saw me on their security cameras, someone came out to talk to me.  When they finally agreed to give me my son, I started to follow the employee into the building and they wouldn't let me go in.  They made us wait outside.

But, I would like to say, Texas should not be on the list above.  I live in Texas and the laws and regulations are different here than in MO.  Unfortunately, because of the backwards laws in MO, the investigating agencies hands are tied.  Since they are not licensed or regulated by the state, the state cannot just show up whenever they please, unless they have a search warrant, which also is nearly impossible to get.  THis is why the Bundy's chose this state.  I am sure they researched all of this thoroughly before they bought the place.
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« Reply #309 on: February 14, 2005, 10:32:00 AM »
Some more savvy about keeping the abuse overt and/or soft on the physical abuse but heavy on the mind f'in.

Sure you figure out that that should read, "covert", certainly not overt.
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« Reply #310 on: February 16, 2005, 11:42:00 AM »
Well, I understand 2 more were rescued from Thayer!  Two down, many, many more to go!
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« Reply #311 on: February 16, 2005, 01:30:00 PM »
please tell us were these 2 the 2 that were rescued last week or are there yet another 2 more recently? At this rate the place may close down due to lack of enrollment. The only problem is I wonder how many people are placing new kids there for the ones that get taken out. Hopefully not very many.
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« Reply #312 on: February 16, 2005, 02:39:00 PM »
I'm not sure if they were the same 2 you are referring to or now. I was just told last night that two more were pulled out by parents.
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« Reply #313 on: February 16, 2005, 09:45:00 PM »
My Cousin was pulled out last week - I am assuming he is accounted for in the two, but at least he is not there anymore - I just worry about all the kids who still are
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« Reply #314 on: February 17, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »
Does anyone have any names of students still enrolled at Thayer?

Tim Rocha
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