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« Reply #285 on: February 08, 2005, 07:44:00 PM »
IF YOU OR YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF TLC AND/OR PARENT HELP PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP
SUEX2W@MSN.COM
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« Reply #286 on: February 09, 2005, 10:52:00 AM »
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On 2005-02-08 16:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"IF YOU OR YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF TLC AND/OR PARENT HELP PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP

SUEX2W@MSN.COM"


who are you?  i dont know if you have noticed or not, but alot of people are reluctant to talk to someone on here if they dont know who they are.  many are tied to thayer and have alternative motives behind such a request.
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« Reply #287 on: February 09, 2005, 11:34:00 AM »
Media contact. TV News team looking for sources:

Contact Us: Do you know someone who currently attends or once attended the Thayer Learning Center Boot Camp and Boarding School? If so, we want to hear from you. Call us at (913) 677-7211 or e-mail http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=2549570

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knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness.

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« Reply #288 on: February 09, 2005, 09:47:00 PM »
Why would anybody contact you? You could be Willa Bundy's cousin or something. Where are you from? Do you have a kid that went to Thayer? And if so how long ago? What's your story? Is your kid still there if you have one? Come on! get real! Identify yourself or go away because anybody without an idenity can't be trusted. Sorry.
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« Reply #289 on: February 09, 2005, 11:33:00 PM »
http://www.isaccorp.org

For myself, I do not believe in any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities.
--Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #290 on: February 10, 2005, 09:38:00 AM »
Absolutely Agree. Go to ISAC first.

But where are all the parents and their rescued children that escaped TLC recently.  Where are their voices? Why can't you tell us what is going on in there, or don't you care about those you left behind because, you got out! The only one who speaks is Julia. She is not afraid of them.
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« Reply #291 on: February 10, 2005, 09:47:00 AM »
Julia isn't the only one.  I recently told my story of my son's rescue less than a week ago...go back a few pages.....
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« Reply #292 on: February 10, 2005, 10:48:00 AM »
SO SORRY, I understand that none of you trust anyone- ME EITHER!!!
Here is my story...
My son was at TLC for three months in 2003.  We pulled him out because of MANY alarming discrepancies in our phone conversations.  We learned from our son about alot of abuse he witnessed, and he was medically neglected in two separate incidents.  We sent a complaint and complete file to the Attorney General outlining the MANY things we knew (Including misrepresentation(s), fraudulent information, the link between Parent Help and TLC, the link between Bundy's and WWASP, on and on.  They sent our file to the Child Prot. Svcs., they did an investgation and concluded in the end there was NOTHING they could do because TLC WOULD NOT COOPERATE- I have this IN WRITING!!  So, that's our story.  My son is now of age and we are looking for people who have been victims to talk to and to join our case.  
So, I hope now you know you can trust me, but if you still don't believe me please contact Tim Rocha- I have spoken with him, I have also made contact with Steve Rock, reporter KCS, and with Mr. Thompson, the Reyes attorney to tell him our story.
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« Reply #293 on: February 10, 2005, 11:14:00 AM »
I JUST WROTE THE POST EXPLAINING OUR STORY AFTER PEOPLE SAYING THEY DON'T TRUST ANYONE...
I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY CONTACT INFORMATION AGAIN:
SUEX2W@MSN.COM
(I am the same person who had "contact me" in the subject topic.)
I just obtained a user name:
SPEAKINGOUT and will sign on with that name from now on.
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« Reply #294 on: February 10, 2005, 11:35:00 AM »
I just sent you a private email.  Please read and reply to me through there.  Thanks!
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« Reply #295 on: February 10, 2005, 05:24:00 PM »
This is Julia. How is everyone? I was wondering if anyone could help me with something? I have been having horrible nightmares of TLC. They all have Ms. Willa or Drill sgt. Caro in them. I wake up and i am scared shitless. Then i realize i am fine and it all goes away until ihave another one. How do i get that crazy bitch out of my dreams or should i say night mares or the other fool? This shit is weird.
For anyone who is new to this site take your kids out if you haven't already and don't be fooled by The Bundy clan. I am not even joking a little bit. From my own estimate there is probably a 95% chance your kid is being treated like shit or is witnessing it. Do you really want your kids to go thru or witnes this kind of stuff. I know what it's like and it's not fun not even a little bit. when i left there i was mean in a way i didn't feel bad for anyone or anything i had no feeling exept hunger. I even laughed at my mom when she fell and twisted her foot. I made myself sick because i didn't know what the heck was wrong with me. I don't usually  act like that.-julia-
P.s Ms. kristy if you read this I want you to know i don't roll my eyes at people and i want my white GAP coat back! ASAP. I suspect you are wearing it right now as you read this! So please take it off and put it in the mail. -julia aka eye roller- NOT!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #296 on: February 10, 2005, 06:58:00 PM »
Julia,
For years I had a recurring dream which stemmed from a frightening event in childhood. May sound weird, but the way I got over it was a little talk therapy and 'takin control of my dreams'. It can be done. When I'd get into a scarey situation, I'd just remember (while asleep) that it was a dream, that I was in control and could end it at anytime. Most times I would wake myself up. After a while, I just remembered and ended the dream. It was really cool!!

Short of that. I've heard that EMDR is a successful therapy for 'PTSD'. There's lots about it on the web.

My opinion of 'what was wrong with you' was that you still resented your mom (and the program) for the way you'd been treated (disrespectfully), and found some pleasure in her getting hurt. You obviously couldn't hurt her yourself. That resentment can often get misplaced onto anyone who acts the least disrespectful to you. It's one reaction to having been abused and forced to be quiet about it- or it was for my son.

Anyway, try the dream thing and see how it works. Let us know how it's going. Time and distance are also good for recovery.
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« Reply #297 on: February 10, 2005, 08:18:00 PM »
Hi this is Julia.Could you please tell me what EMDR is. I've never heard of this. Thank you Julia
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« Reply #298 on: February 10, 2005, 09:36:00 PM »
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=emdr

From the EMDR Institute:
What is it?
http://www.emdr.com/briefdes.htm
PTSD Research:
http://www.emdr.com/sumofptsd.htm

Three studies1,2,3 have indicated an elimination of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) diagnosis in 77-90% of civilian participants after three to seven sessions. Other studies using participants with PTSD4,5,6 have found significant decreases in a wide range of symptoms after two or three active treatment sessions. Treatment effects are well maintained at follow-up assessments. For example, one study reported an 84% remission of PTSD diagnosis at 15 month follow-up7.

Studies using waitlist controls found EMDR superior; studies comparing EMDR to commonly used treatments such as biofeedback assisted relaxation8, active listening5, and various forms of individual therapy in a Kaiser Permanente HMO facility2 found EMDR superior to the control condition on measures of posttraumatic stress.

Five randomized clinical trials have compared EMDR to exposure therapies4,9,15 and to cognitive therapies plus exposure1,10. These studies have found substantially no difference between EMDR and the cognitive/behavioral (CBT) control, with a superiority in two studies for EMDR on measures of PTSD intrusive symptoms and in one for CBT (using imaginal and therapist-assisted in vivo exposure) on intrusion and avoidance. There were two controlled studies without randomization; one11 found the CBT condition superior to EMDR and the other12 found EMDR superior to the CBT control on multiple measures. EMDR is more efficient than CBT, as it does not require homework and some studies have indicated that it may also take fewer sessions. Treatment effects have generally been well maintained. [For more information, see Comparison of EMDR and Cognitive Behavioral Therapies].

Several controlled field studies have tested EMDR in community settings such as low cost agencies5, an HMO facility2 and a university based clinic serving the outside community4. Such studies, which reported good results, have excellent external validity. In the only controlled study that has treated disaster-related PTSD13 , school children?s PTSD symptoms were markedly reduced after EMDR treatment, with an improvement in overall health measured by fewer health visits to the school nurse. This was also the first controlled outcome study of any treatment for children with PTSD.

Studies with combat veterans were hampered by insufficient treatment time and fidelity to treatment. The only randomized study using the 12 session suggested minimum treatment14 indicated that 77% of the Vietnam veterans no longer had PTSD after the 12 sessions8. A post hoc analysis of a PTSD program in the VA found a superiority of EMDR over the two other treatments used.16

EMDR has been recognized as an efficacious treatment for PTSD [See Efficacy of EMDR].

For more information about each of these studies, see Studies Investigating EMDR Treatment of PTSD
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« Reply #299 on: February 12, 2005, 11:43:00 PM »
On Feb 12, 2005

Another student has been removed from Thayer Learning Center.  All of the same accusations apply.  
Mentally beaten these children down.  
No counseling.
Getting smoked for a wrong LOOK.  
Getting smoked for having popcorn kernals in their socks.
Bathing in cold water, NO HOT WATER ALOUD
PLEASE .......
They have not changed either have their employyes that they've had for any length of time.  
Anyone promised that these children had a Christmas were lied to. Do you know what they got for Christmas   SMOKED

REMOVE YOUR CHILDREN IMMEDIATELY
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