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« Reply #120 on: December 17, 2004, 05:58:00 PM »
Ah, nothing like good confrontational behavior modification as your golden hammer! Afterall, all kids need "IMPACT", right? Better bang that square peg into a round hole!

So, they dont care about actual problems, they dont care about making them REALLY feel good or safe or have 'self esteem' or LOVE, they just care about TOUGH love and breaking the child down into total obedience and submission.

Parents! Come get a stepford child!

Honestly, this kind of treatment belongs in scary movies or clubs for consenting adults, NOT for children. Argh. I'm sure the same parent that would do this to a kid wouldn't let adults have fun that way.

There is not a "fragment" in all nature, for every relative fragment of one thing is a full harmonious unit in itself.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #121 on: December 17, 2004, 06:02:00 PM »
WOW when was that video shot?I saw alot of familiar faces.I thought Qualiroli(or is that even him) left in October, did he come back?
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« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2004, 07:49:00 PM »
::jawdrop:: WOW!!! I think you people are taking this way out of hand (the kids that attend the program) you sit there and you say this , this and this but where you saying that when you were there? In my personal opion Thayer Learning Center has changed my life and if it wasn't for Mrs. Willa and Mr. Bundy i know that I would not be here today, i would be some where dead in the streets! i have a very good realtionship with my family and i love my life. when you sit there and you talk shit about how bad Thayer Learning Center is, just think about how STUPID you sound and ask your self this: have i really changed my life? ummmmm..... well i cant tell cause you are talking shit about the people who took you in and tryed to help you change you life but by the way you are talking about them i can tell that there help didnt work! your parents must be sooooo pround of you....... NOT! Stop talking shit!I LOVE T.L.C :wink:
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« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2004, 08:06:00 PM »
nO I DIDNT WITNESS I JUST WANTED TO SY HI TO EVEYBODY WHO KNOWS ME AND MY BRO!!! I DONT WANT TO SAY MY NAME BUT OH WELL FUCK IT, HAHA THIS IS BLAIR!! HOLLA AT CHA GIRL! :lol: YALL QUIT BEING SCARED IF YOU WANT TO TALK SHIT LET PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE BITCHES!
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« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2004, 08:08:00 PM »
Are cadets allowed to masturbate together,or do they have to do it seperately,by themselves?
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« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2004, 08:12:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-20 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

if it wasn't for Mrs. Willa and Mr. Bundy i know that I would not be here today, i would be some where dead in the streets!

DEADINSANEORINJAIL...Here we go again.  Is there a tape somewhere that ALL these places use that says this?  We really need to come up with some kind of an FAQ for statements like this.  I really don't have the energy to go over this again.  Anyone else care to take it?

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well i cant tell cause you are talking shit about the people who took you in and tryed to help you change you life


Look, honey, sweetie....do you really believe that they just "took you in and tryed (tried) to help you change your life" out of the goodness of their hearts?  You're really in for a rude awakening when you decide to join the grown up world.  Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the money that your parent/insurance companies were PAYING THEM now couldn it??
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« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2004, 08:52:00 PM »
WHO IS THIS?
 :question:
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« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2004, 08:54:00 PM »
OH BY THE WAY IM NOT YOUR HONEY OR YOUR SWEETIE!
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« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2004, 08:58:00 PM »
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"WHO IS THIS?

 :question: "


WHO IS THIS :question:  :question: :lol:
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« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2004, 08:59:00 PM »
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« Reply #130 on: December 21, 2004, 12:30:00 AM »
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"OH BY THE WAY IM NOT YOUR HONEY OR YOUR SWEETIE!

 :wink: "


First of all, chicklet, it would be nice if you'd quit shouting.

Second, when I go on vacation and stay in a hotel, I'm not grateful to the Radisson or the Holiday Inn for "taking me in"---because I'm *paying* for a particular *service*.

Anybody *paid* to take care of children isn't entitled to the children's gratitude, either, because the child is *entitled* to have their basic needs met by their parents or by people their parents pay to do it.

If you think someone paid for goods and services is entitled to gratitude from the customer, and the people who taught you this were the same people being paid for the goods and services---then that's pretty good evidence that at least *part* of what you received was *brain-washing*.

When I stay at the Holiday Inn or Radisson I'm always polite to the other guests and the people who work there----but that's just because they're fellow human beings in the same world I'm in and generally entitled to the human dignity of being treated decently.

They *certainly* don't get any moral brownie points for "taking me in."  And if the accommodations or service is lousy, or great, I *will* tell other prospective customers about it

(If the tone of my writing isn't sweet to you, well, it's at least partly because you're shouting.)

I can't be at all upset with people for saying things about Thayer here that they didn't say while incarcerated there----if you punish or imprison people, or hold them imprisoned longer, for giving you the straight truth on what scum you think they are, then you hardly have any room to complain when they announce to all and sundry their *true* opinion of you once they're out of your grasp.

You know what?  As the unwilling recipients of Thayer's "product," these former inmates have every right to have formed an opinion of Thayer and to announce that opinion to anyone and everyone who'll listen.

The problem with coercion as a strategy for dealing with people is that they tend to hate you once they finally get out from under your thumb, and they tend to avoid you, and as soon as they get away from you they tend to go ahead and do what they wanted to do, anyway.

In a free society, punishment is ultimately only effective as a very short term stopgap between shaping behavior by persuasion, example, encouragement, and learning.  Reward is also a stopgap, but it has less of a downside.

When you punish someone for telling you you're a jerk, all that happens is that they make sure they get away from you before telling *everyone* else what a jerk you are.

If the people at Thayer were as smart as they claim about teaching people to predict the consequences of their choices, maybe they'd choose better, eh?

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« Reply #131 on: December 21, 2004, 12:37:00 AM »
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First of all, chicklet,
Timoclea"


chicklet.    :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2004, 01:28:00 PM »
You know Personally I think you guys are spending WAY TOO MUCH TIME on this web site and if you are so worried about this cadet that died and if you are so worried about Mrs. Willa and Mr. Bundy just write back and i would be more than happy to give whoever the number where yall can reach Mrs. Willa at cause i personally think that if you have something to say about someone or something you should be man or woman enough to say it to that persons face! holla at cha girl!  :grin:
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« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2004, 01:49:00 PM »
I agree with you but at the same time i was at thayer for over a year i can say that all this crap that yall are saying is what i said crap, it is all crap so yeah your right you do have a right to say what ever tha heck you want to say , but is it true? who is this that is writing all this crap about Thayer? why dont you come out and tell us who you are cause im sure that i have worked with you before and i am sure that you are taking this way out of hand! oh and by the way NOBODY IS SHOUTING! you dont even know the meaning of that word honey! know what your saying and  than i might think about talking to you! you ( who ever you are) came to Thayer a LOSER and as we can all see you left Thayer a LOSER! Get a life dude for real! ::noway:: yeah and even though they were payed to do what they did, they still tried to help you change your lives and yeah so what if it was just a job to some people! eveybody has to make a living and thats what the people there wanted to do they didnt have to wake up every morning to come to work so why dont yall just quit wasting your time and get over it this is not our battle! oh and by the way this is Blair! im not afrid to let you guys know who this is.
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« Reply #134 on: December 21, 2004, 01:56:00 PM »
First off, ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING.  Second, please try and construct your sentences so that they have regular intervals (i.e. no run-on sentences).  It would make it much[/b] easier to read.

Third...

Teen Dies at School Known for Strict Discipline

http://www.kctv5.com/global/story.asp?s ... Type=Print

KIDDER, Mo. (AP) -- Authorities are investigating the death of a 15-year-old boy at a private, military-style boot camp in this northwest Missouri community.

Jerry Banks, who runs Thayer Learning Center Boot Camp and Boarding School, said the student died Nov. 3, less than a week after enrolling. The student's name was not released.

Banks said the student apparently died of an "unexplained medical condition." Though Thayer students participate in intense physical exercise, Banks said the student was not involved in any physical activity when he died.

Without elaborating, Jeff Alsup -- Caldwell County's chief sheriff's deputy -- said the death was part of an ongoing investigation.

Caldwell County Coroner Gary Brown said Wednesday he still had not received word on any autopsy findings, including preliminary ones about the cause of death.

"There's really nothing we can tell you right now," he said.

Banks said he was unaware of the student having any prior medical conditions that required special attention, and that the student appeared healthy when he enrolled.

"We're cooperating with everyone, because we want the answer, too," he said.

Thayer has more than 100 students, nearly all from outside Missouri, and charges $4,000 a month for tuition and room and board.

Missouri law generally exempts boarding schools from state regulation and oversight, but some schools have had to fight critics who say they excessively discipline students. The schools often attract parents desperate to change their children's drug use, gang activity and violent behavior.

Thayer's Web site bills the boot camp and reform school as "a life-changing experience for teens ages 13-18," a "highly structured" place on roughly 20 acres of farm land 45 miles north of Kansas City.

"We recognize that there is a tremendous need for a positive behavior modification program for troubled teens," the Web site says. "Our boot camp will help them learn the importance of self-respect, respect for others and their property, and positive self esteem through a series of goals they will reach in the program."

"If your teen is doing drugs, defiant, disrespectful, disobedient, abusive, or needs a wake up call to reality, TLC boot camp has an opening just for him or her," the Web site continues. "It's time to stop making all your decisions based on the behavior of your teen. Our efficient drill sergeants are waiting to help put you, the parent, back in command."

This year, two religious reform schools closed following abuse allegations.

In October, Thanks to Calvary Baptist Church and Boarding Academy, near Waynesville about 130 miles southwest of St. Louis, shuttered in the wake of enrollment drops after the school's founder was accused of using excessive discipline against an Illinois teen last year.

In May, Mountain Park Baptist Boarding Academy, in southeast Missouri near Patterson, closed in light of sagging enrollment and a $20,000 jury award to a teenager who claimed mistreatment.

Religious reform school Heartland Christian Academy, in rural northeast Missouri near the Lewis County town of Bethel, has successfully fought allegations of abuse, with charges against the school's employees either being dropped or dismissed by juries. A judge recently awarded $800,000 to Heartland, saying a raid by abuse investigators was unjustified.
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