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« on: October 20, 2004, 08:17:00 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 11:29:00 AM »
haha, i think ALL of us hated work assingments!  in fact, i would be worried about some one if they did like them.  (i understand that some people liked the physical work, but the ammount of work assingments people were put on was a bit much)
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 02:48:00 PM »
i think i was on like 21 restrictions...
most of them were a few weeks long.
i actually liked being on restrictions.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 03:01:00 PM »
I built more damn rock walls in idaho than I care to think about.  And chopped more wood and those peice of shit mauls! ::puke::  ::puke::  ::puke::
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 10:21:00 PM »
Oh man lol ure gonna laugh but i loved workies....well when i could use them to my advantage! I would take tools from the tools shed to break in to wherever i needed to go i loved it i had screw drivers...etc. also when they leave u alone u can dig holes underground and hide certain things that are illegal wherever u go! Wow the things i would do! Oh man the greatest part of work assignments sneaking into the dorms and taking a nap or shower! haha or at bca we had this swing by the creek that was my bed. the best time for work assignments were in the winter shoveling snow only when ure with ure friends haha me and my friends would hide eachother under the snow by the dock man staff would go crazy looking for us it was awesome. But i'll admit when u were in staff view and they were natize and u did stupid shit with no slack it sucked! Don't get me wrong i dreaded workies but basically only when i couldn't do cool stuff!
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 07:30:00 PM »
i loved cleaning back kitchen everynight... we used to have so much fun.
oh yeh, we used to have lots of fun while running DR trash too.

we found multiple ways to make our werk assignments fun (and do minimal werk)
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2004, 11:02:00 AM »
I loved being on my table after having run away. It meant no one could talk to me :grin: And no one could confront me. And it's a lot easier being confronted about running away by some staff member. Even they didn't really know what to do.No one thought I would run away especially alone. That creep Steve would of course try to hug me tight and say they weren't gonna let me go. Freak. Hey just curious. How could he, a convicted rapist be hired by a place like Cedu? It's just beyond my belief.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2004, 12:04:00 PM »
To my knowlege, Steve Laird was never actually convicted of rape in a court of law.  He did however state repeatedly to us students that he had molested a 13 year old girl when he was in his early 20's.  

Other staff: Rudy Bentz admittted to killing a black man while drunk driving. Never did any jail time.

Russ Decker admitted to participating in  several gang rapes, and also to setting a homeless man on fire with his skinhead buddies during his pre-RMA days. No jail time for Russ either.

Jill Bentz frequently walked around campus grabbing male students asses and often made explicit sexual comments while doing so.  

Pam Abel had so many abortions during her youth, that it took years of visiting fertility specialists in order to reverse the damage so she and her husband could finally conceive their son.  

Tim Brace admitted to having been on the receiving end of a "butt-fucking" train by several of his Navy Buddies, while tripping on Acid. Tim did this sort of thing a lot during his Navy days.

Are we starting to see a pattern here?  
No legimate school in there right mind would hire
people with pasts like these to educate children!!!  Then again, those of us who are in the know realized a long time ago that their is nothing legitimate about Cedu.  

The best way to judge the character of a company is to take a good look at it's employees, since a company is really only as good as the people who work there.  Go ahead and  look!!!
What kind of school is Cedu?...The answer is obvious.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2004, 12:34:00 PM »
ummm... people change.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2004, 01:33:00 PM »
Mikehunt,

yes people do change..... Mark David Chapman (John Lenon's Killer) and David Berkowitz (son of sam) for example are both dedicated born again christians now... does that mean that we should all forget that they are both fucking murderers, accept them into society, and perhaps give them jobs educating children???  FUCK NO!!!   Yes people can change, but that doesn't mean we should forget what they've done.  

There exists a little something called ACCOUNTABILITY, or to put it more simply: taking responsibility for your own actions.  Almost all of the cedu staff I mentioned committed terrible crimes.  Not one of them ever took responsibility for what they did.  
Yet "Getting back into Agreement", and "being responsible for your own actions" was one of the central themes at cedu that all of the former cedu staff I mentioned endlessly drilled into our heads.  

Did you ever hear the phrase: "practice what you preach?"  

Cedu Staff are the ultimate hypocrates, and that's why all of us former students who actually CAN think for ourselves, never took anything they said seriously.

Besides all of that, people with histories of murder, child molestation, rape, and fondling of minors, should never be in a position to educate and influence the minds of children, PERIOD!!!  I don't care how much people have changed, there is no middle ground here....And if you can't see that, then there is obviously something seriously wrong with you!
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2004, 02:32:00 PM »
Sorry my bad I guess I had assumed that someone that was owning up to rapeing a 13 yr old had served time:) But I remember him telling me all the time that he had raped a girl my age.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »
Steve is a bastard anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2004, 03:24:00 PM »
it's not all about owning up to it, it's about moving on in a new direction.

i've done some things that i feel badly about, and if you want to devaluate my character at this point in my life based solely on the things i've done in my past, i think that's a serious character flaw on your part... i, like many people, use my experiences to pull me forward, not draw me back.
some people don't have the balls to do "immoral" things even though they really want to, does that make them any better than the person who does it and uses the experience to revolutionize their life?  obviously, this would depend on the situation and i'm not saying that all cedu staff have deviated from their pathological ways...
i think that the more intense your experience (intense is, of course, a relative subjective term) the more you will be able to gain from it.  accordingly, those who tangiblize their fantasies get to see at least 2 facets of their desire and it's repercussions, whereas someone who does not is only guaranteed to see 1.  if you're trapped in your own head, it's makes it easier to use the world as a mirror.
you have to witness the horror in some way to kill a desire, otherwise it will probably lay dormant somewhere in the dark recess of your mind.  if you do witness the horror, you will be sort of traumatized, and consequently, you will act differently for whichever reason you choose.  
if you can become traumatized just by a thought, then you're doing well so long as you can rationalize your way through it, but i'm assuming that most people cannot.  (unfortunately, for most people who are afraid to do all the things that they're sickly inclined to do, the traumatizing thought in their mind is relative to their deviation of social norms and standards and the reason they produce to abstain from acting in such an outrageous manner is to avoid the social consequences they might have to suffer if they don't.)
so, assuming that all this is true, how are you going to judge someone based on who they were 15 years ago?  people make lots of mistakes... you have to fall on your face quite a few times before you can walk steadily.  the more ways you fall, the more you can learn, the better walker you become.

i have a special kind of respect for those who actually live out their evil thoughts; at least they're doing what they're inclined to do rather than fantasizing about it and keeping it a secret out of fear.  at least they're honest with themselves in ways that many other people are not, and they give themselves permission to make up their own mind.  
it's also highly respectable to renounce the fear of being a social disgrace.

honestly, i think you guys are just trying to find more reasons to talk shit about the staff at cedu.  this is a great demonstration of why "therapists" should not be talking about their own pasts to the people they're treating...
i think it's good that cedu used ex-drug addicts and whatnot to counsel us... it's much easier for someone who understands the struggle to help pull you out of it than someone who's never experienced it before; one speaks of wisdom, the other makes educated guesses.
that wasn't the problem with the school, the problem was that they didn't have a good method of therapy to attune their staff to; they encouraged them to be abusive rather than supportive, which was not usually helpful.    
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2004, 03:43:00 PM »
You're right however I still hate Steve and I think even if he's not rapeing he is mind rapeing still probably. I do believe he got his rocks off telling us warstory details of how he "fucked" this young girl or that young girl.
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